Hey guys, I plan to play D3 mostly with my sister who will be going Witch Doctor. She's not a great gamer or anything, so the plan is that she'll use a build focused on summons. These will hopefully tank most of the dmg for us while I provide the dmg output.
So my question is, would a Wizard or Monk go better with a summons-based WD? Here's a couple of reasons I've though of in support of each class.
Wizard Pros:
Lots of AoE dmg. Coupled with some of the WD's spells, we could do a lot of dmg in small areas.
Because WD is going summons, can be built more offensively.
Male Wizard looks cooler than the male monk =D
Wizard Cons:
Primary attribute is also INT, which means it's possible we might fight for the same gear. But this might be offset-ted by the fact that each player gets their own item drops. Also, I might focus more on items that increase my chance to crit, and she might focus more on items that increase the health of her summons
Once pets die, our ability to tank drops off dramatically (unless I use Diamond skin, but that means my build will need to be focused more on defence rather than offence). This is especially a problem for boss fights.
Monk Pros:
Good support class. Can heal and keep summons alive a bit longer hopefully. Also, can utilise mantras to help out summons and whole team.
High mobility: can zip around the battlefield and take out key targets like tomb guardians while WD summons engage the rest.
Can also help tank boss fights
Monk Cons:
Not as cool looking as the wizard lol
Everyone will be rolling a monk (if polls are anything to judge from).
May not have as high dmg output as the Wizard? Although if the beta is any indication of class strength, that won't be a problem.
id chose the class that has the least conflict in gear as possible. So that means any melee character or demon hunter. The last class id want to partner with (if i had a choice) is wizard; lets not fool ourselves, when it comes to diablo series, it comes down to gear... always
With passives such as Bad Medicine and some nice DPS buffs such as BBV (think farming bosses).... witch DRs will be one of the most sought after classes to group with in Inferno... guaranteed. Add that to the fact that we are the least popular class right now and it puts us in a good position to being able to chose the choicest people to group with (when not playing with friends); in these instances, im playing with any class cept wizards.
id go monk . . . have your sister go summoner build with the passive to get thrones to all pets while stacking thorn gear. while you get the throne aura =P
In addition to the thorn stuff otoutobun above mentioned, you could also grab the monk aoe heal, that could help keep the WD pets alive longer.
In all honesty though, if you won't want to play a monk, go for demon hunter over wizard to duo with a wizard. Between pets and snares as well as the insanely high burst the DH has, you guys should be fairly solid for all D3 has to offer.
The monk is always the best teammate.... Any group lacking a monk would be made better by having a monk.
This isn't even a competition. It doesn't even matter what class the other players are.
The male wizard looks like Johnny douchebag Depp for crying out loud.
The wizard's dmg output is nothing to brag about honestly. She is more like a CC caster than anything else. She has lots of AoE, but none of them are extraordinarily good. A junk yard has a lot of cars, but no Aston Martins. One Aston Martin is better than all those junkers combined, and you only need one Aston Martin.
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Hmm thanks a lot for the comments guys. I was hoping there'd be more arguments in support of the Wizard, but it does seem like the monk really is too good to pass up on.
Hmm thanks a lot for the comments guys. I was hoping there'd be more arguments in support of the Wizard, but it does seem like the monk really is too good to pass up on.
Idk if you played open beta, but using the Monks combos is boss. Also you mention that the wizard looks cooler than the monk I couldn't disagree more. My friend tried wizard during beta while I was monk and he and I both kept laughing at how much of a dork he looked like. The Monk looks like a serious kung fu sensei dude you don't want to mess with.
Hmm thanks a lot for the comments guys. I was hoping there'd be more arguments in support of the Wizard, but it does seem like the monk really is too good to pass up on.
Idk if you played open beta, but using the Monks combos is boss. Also you mention that the wizard looks cooler than the monk I couldn't disagree more. My friend tried wizard during beta while I was monk and he and I both kept laughing at how much of a dork he looked like. The Monk looks like a serious kung fu sensei dude you don't want to mess with.
I was referring more to armour sets, particularly at the highest tiers.Much prefer the wizard armour sets compared to the monk ones.
PS: Fighting over Int gear is less relevant with D3's personal drops AND crafting system (Salvage items that you both don't want and make shinies together. It might be random with how often you get useful things, but it's still fuzzy wuzzy
The idea isn't that you're picking a class with a different primary stat to avoid arguments, so much as you now have two players in a match getting twice the loot drops. If you share a primary stat, it's less likely your partner will be willing to share drops he would equip, but a monk can do three things with INT gear; he can either sell it, break it down, or throw it to his WD partner.
The problem with going WD-Wizard combo is that, in normal and maybe nightmare, you can burst down enemies from range. But by Hell and definitely Inferno, enemies will constantly be in melee range and two casters dont do too well without a tank in front, unless you go melee wizard.
I would suggest the monk. Since your sister doesnt sound like an amazing gamer, you'll want a lot of survivability to make sure she doesnt end up on her own. The monk has incredible survivability and has great support abilities, plus incredible damage output, so it's the clear choice here. Plus, you don't overlap on any loot and can share freely
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So my question is, would a Wizard or Monk go better with a summons-based WD? Here's a couple of reasons I've though of in support of each class.
Wizard Pros:
With passives such as Bad Medicine and some nice DPS buffs such as BBV (think farming bosses).... witch DRs will be one of the most sought after classes to group with in Inferno... guaranteed. Add that to the fact that we are the least popular class right now and it puts us in a good position to being able to chose the choicest people to group with (when not playing with friends); in these instances, im playing with any class cept wizards.
given the choices... id chose monk, no question.
In all honesty though, if you won't want to play a monk, go for demon hunter over wizard to duo with a wizard. Between pets and snares as well as the insanely high burst the DH has, you guys should be fairly solid for all D3 has to offer.
This isn't even a competition. It doesn't even matter what class the other players are.
The male wizard looks like Johnny douchebag Depp for crying out loud.
The wizard's dmg output is nothing to brag about honestly. She is more like a CC caster than anything else. She has lots of AoE, but none of them are extraordinarily good. A junk yard has a lot of cars, but no Aston Martins. One Aston Martin is better than all those junkers combined, and you only need one Aston Martin.
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I was referring more to armour sets, particularly at the highest tiers.Much prefer the wizard armour sets compared to the monk ones.
The idea isn't that you're picking a class with a different primary stat to avoid arguments, so much as you now have two players in a match getting twice the loot drops. If you share a primary stat, it's less likely your partner will be willing to share drops he would equip, but a monk can do three things with INT gear; he can either sell it, break it down, or throw it to his WD partner.
Also, if you both have different primary stat it will make farming up gear twice as easy.
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I would suggest the monk. Since your sister doesnt sound like an amazing gamer, you'll want a lot of survivability to make sure she doesnt end up on her own. The monk has incredible survivability and has great support abilities, plus incredible damage output, so it's the clear choice here. Plus, you don't overlap on any loot and can share freely