Whats the advantage of using a bow and arrow when you can cast a spell that destroys everything on screen ala frozen orb/blessed hammer/etc or bring to life hundreds of skeletons to fight for you? Of course guns would be balanced with the rest of the weapons and there would be magical attributes just as there are for bows and swords. They may be only usable for one or two classes like daggers or bows, but they could be implimented, done well, and fit in the world.
acording to your own word of realism and age there is no need to use armors cause that hits way stronger than a arrow or a trowing knife , and the uses of heavy armors and sword/shield will be lost.
that what actualy happened in our real history.
Bows were for a long time supperior to hand cannons. Hand cannons evolved because siege cannons evolved. Siege cannons evolved because of the obvious superiority to the catapult that would move after every firing (the sieve cannon would not move) and the easier to fire and move to a new enemy entrenchment (the trebuchet, while not moving, had to be taken appart to move from one place to another).
And on a side note: British long bows could easily pierce heavy armours, as could some of the more powerful crossbows. In fact, crossbows were viewed as you are viewing guns, a weapon that would require very little skill. The difference is that crossbows were easier to use then guns of the era.
If memory serves right, crossbows were outlawed by one of the popes of the time...
[Sarcasm]I should make a thread to get crossbows out of Diablo![/Sarcasm]
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anyways after the ninvention of the weapon (gun) appered the machine gun taht where handed rotation not to late before first type of fire guns.
That would be approximately the American Civil War era, thus untrue.
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so no thanks but no.^_^
Your own choice. I for one don't want Enigma's in Diablo 2, but it's there anyway. *Shrug.*
The little cannons are guns, they just resemble little cannons compared to modern day technology.
According to Larzuk's words.
Exactly.
This is a cannon I would expect:
This is a gun I would expect:
These are guns that somehow you all are thinking of:
We (Me and Alpha) are talking about historically accurate guns that would fit the time frame and the era and bring a bigger sense of realism to the game, not gattaling guns
We're not talking about machine guns that can rip trees from their roots. We're talking miniature cannons that fire little steel balls, and barely pierce steel armor.
Exactly. Can we get the stupid posts deleted? There is no way your going to have pistols or rifles or anything like CoD or HG:L or anything from the industrial age in here. If you have gunpowder-powered weaponry it would either be 1400-1500's technology in which it was mostly siege weaponry akin to trebuchets and catapults of Diablo 2...
Peter Molyneux is doing that to Fable 2.
I personally don't like the idea of guns in fantasy games.. but Fable 2 has early gen. guns, which I don't think will be very bad.
Might be kinda weird to get used to..
Diablo 3 would have early generation guns as well though. Either early generation guns or early generation cannons. The quote doesn't refer specifically to small arms fire, for all we know it could be a big early generation cannon that he was talking about. (And most likely that is what he was talking about.)
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To be fair, though, early guns & rifles were completely inferior to that of bows. The only reason rifles ever trumped bows were because while bows took years, maybe decades, of dedicated training to master, any one damn peasant could carry and fire a gun.
"Point stick. Press here." etc.
Untrue. Early guns were rather difficult, and even useless if you got the rope wet. (Yes, match-lock rifles used a rope that was on fire.) Guns were almost as hard as bows to use, they just surpassed bows as a war machine because of technilogical advancements.
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guns against demons? this is diablo not sci-fi, they have warcraft to play w/ the guns
Warcraft one has no guns. Warcraft two has primitive explosives. Warcraft three finnally had guns. Warcraft is an evolving universe. Do you want Warcraft to be better then Diablo? It's been twenty years, plently of time for primitive cannons to be implimented. And if cannons are implimented well, you will most likely be singing a different tune...
The recoil would be quite a lot. That's why the strength would be high.
Not really. Hand cannon is a bit of a missleading name. It is simply a tube with some powder and a ball shoved in. Compared to say, a .50 cal magnum, which has a great deal of recoil, the recoil would not be all that bad at all.
Maybe, but it would have to take insane strength to handle and it would have to absolutely be an endgame item.
I call bull. A normal hand cannon would weigh anywhere from 30 to 60 pounds, enough for you or I to hold, let alone people who are fighting hordes of demons. In fact, I could see Barbarians dual-wielding handcannons...
I would almost expect big old cannons being used by NPC's during the invasion that was pictured in the video trailer to kill hordes of demons... I might be able to see hand cannons, and maybe, just maybe, match-lock muskets. The match'lock muskets though, considering how they are fired, would have to be used solely by NPC's, so that only leaves the hand cannons. I could see a hand cannon similar to Age of Empires 2's Hand Cannonier being used...
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Bows were for a long time supperior to hand cannons. Hand cannons evolved because siege cannons evolved. Siege cannons evolved because of the obvious superiority to the catapult that would move after every firing (the sieve cannon would not move) and the easier to fire and move to a new enemy entrenchment (the trebuchet, while not moving, had to be taken appart to move from one place to another).
And on a side note: British long bows could easily pierce heavy armours, as could some of the more powerful crossbows. In fact, crossbows were viewed as you are viewing guns, a weapon that would require very little skill. The difference is that crossbows were easier to use then guns of the era.
If memory serves right, crossbows were outlawed by one of the popes of the time...
[Sarcasm]I should make a thread to get crossbows out of Diablo![/Sarcasm]
That would be approximately the American Civil War era, thus untrue.
Your own choice. I for one don't want Enigma's in Diablo 2, but it's there anyway. *Shrug.*
Exactly.
This is a cannon I would expect:
This is a gun I would expect:
These are guns that somehow you all are thinking of:
We (Me and Alpha) are talking about historically accurate guns that would fit the time frame and the era and bring a bigger sense of realism to the game, not gattaling guns
Exactly. Can we get the stupid posts deleted? There is no way your going to have pistols or rifles or anything like CoD or HG:L or anything from the industrial age in here. If you have gunpowder-powered weaponry it would either be 1400-1500's technology in which it was mostly siege weaponry akin to trebuchets and catapults of Diablo 2...
Diablo 3 would have early generation guns as well though. Either early generation guns or early generation cannons. The quote doesn't refer specifically to small arms fire, for all we know it could be a big early generation cannon that he was talking about. (And most likely that is what he was talking about.)
Untrue. Early guns were rather difficult, and even useless if you got the rope wet. (Yes, match-lock rifles used a rope that was on fire.) Guns were almost as hard as bows to use, they just surpassed bows as a war machine because of technilogical advancements.
Warcraft one has no guns. Warcraft two has primitive explosives. Warcraft three finnally had guns. Warcraft is an evolving universe. Do you want Warcraft to be better then Diablo? It's been twenty years, plently of time for primitive cannons to be implimented. And if cannons are implimented well, you will most likely be singing a different tune...
Not really. Hand cannon is a bit of a missleading name. It is simply a tube with some powder and a ball shoved in. Compared to say, a .50 cal magnum, which has a great deal of recoil, the recoil would not be all that bad at all.
I call bull. A normal hand cannon would weigh anywhere from 30 to 60 pounds, enough for you or I to hold, let alone people who are fighting hordes of demons. In fact, I could see Barbarians dual-wielding handcannons...