Hey guys, I have made an observation lately and i wanted to see what other people thought of it. This is in no way a bash MW2 thread, just an observation about the game in reference to its name and how it is perceived.
Looking at the title of MW2 you would think the games multiplayer (maybe the single player is more fitting of the name) would feel like warfare set in today's world, when actually it is like Goldeneye meets unreal tournament. This is not necessarily a bad thing, but to me is inaccurately shown off as something similar to battlefield when clearly it is not even similar. The game is more chaotic in a unreal tournament sense, as to where BF is chaotic in a warfare sense. In addition to that, it is exaggerated in the running speed and blood on your screen aswell (also very extreme like UT). The maps are huge, there's vehicles (core component of the game), destructible environments, squad focused gameplay (usually), with many different ways to go about achieving the goal in the map. I much prefer BF to MW, but that's me and the style i enjoy personally. thoughts...
So what your saying is that MW2 isnt really modern warfare?
precisely lol. yes it has modern guns and maybe the single player (although i hear its over the top) is more like modern warfare, but in essence the multiplayer really is not a good representation of modern warfare. in modern warfare you have big environments with vehicles and squad based tactics. this game is more chaotic and is reminsecent of goldeneye meets UT.
BF:BC2 has had my attention since the MW2 debacle. Hopefully a month prior to release Dice won't do something stupid. But Bad Company, in all seriousness, looks absolutely amazing, and I've never been much of a fan of the Battlefield series.
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I agree, Modern warfare is not modern in warfare at all, It is such a campers game literally noone moves sometimes its extremely annoying, And id really like to see a 25 v25 so I can just see shit flying everywhere now thats modern warfare.
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BF:BC2 has had my attention since the MW2 debacle. Hopefully a month prior to release Dice won't do something stupid. But Bad Company, in all seriousness, looks absolutely amazing, and I've never been much of a fan of the Battlefield series.
haha while I agree, the thread wasnt really about who's better : P. Ya guys hear what I am saying about MW though? I just feel like MW isnt actually like war, but rather halo or something.
I agree, Modern warfare is not modern in warfare at all, It is such a campers game literally noone moves sometimes its extremely annoying, And id really like to see a 25 v25 so I can just see shit flying everywhere now thats modern warfare.
Well, that's another turn off for me for MW2; not to dredge that pot up any more, but 9v9 is weak. I know that a ton of people are still having a great time and having fun, but there's a whole 'nother untapped group of people who love 12v12, 25v25, 35v35, etc. The only MW (CoD4) server I care to play on was a 30v30 RR server. That's insane right there, you have to constantly check your back, keep moving. It's heart and pulse pounding and that's why MW2's dumping of dedicated servers was a disappointment for me and a group of others; we'd like that thrill we got in the original back with all the updation there was.
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Has any one in this tread saying its not like modern warfare been to war in the past 6 years? lol Not trying to be a smart ass. But i think they did a good job. Take a look at the maps that are on the game... on what maps would you like to see tanks and vehicles? Im just saying most fire fights in modern war is all troops. Past that its air strikes... Oh wait the game added all kinds of air strikes.
Has any one in this tread saying its not like modern warfare been to war in the past 6 years? lol Not trying to be a smart ass. But i think they did a good job. Take a look at the maps that are on the game... on what maps would you like to see tanks and vehicles? I'm just saying most fire fights in modern war is all troops. Past that its air strikes... Oh wait the game added all kinds of air strikes.
All I'm saying is the game really is way too fast paced (runs like unreal tournament with the perk), lacks a squad focus like battlefield, environments don't destruct, im fairly certain hum v's are quite commonly found in modern warfare.
mw2 is great (although i hate IW personally), I just dont think it is an accurate representation of war.
And by your own statement you'd have no room to defend it either. But opinions are opinions. /me shrugs.
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Has any one in this tread saying its not like modern warfare been to war in the past 6 years? lol Not trying to be a smart ass. But i think they did a good job. Take a look at the maps that are on the game... on what maps would you like to see tanks and vehicles? Im just saying most fire fights in modern war is all troops. Past that its air strikes... Oh wait the game added all kinds of air strikes.
Were saying its not a big firefight liek a war, we want it to be amazing shit were bullets fly 24/7 and theres no breaks. Have you even played MW2 yet? because if you have youd see most kids just camp in a corner and the gamem never finishes.I mean sure if your FFA it always finishes if your TD it finishes HCTd never finishes uhm its just a fact most kids just camp out the entire game and get 4 ratios and say their beast.I wanna see the game where its so many people even if you camp youd be able to killa a camper and if not camper all those guys running down the battlefield. Some of those maps ar hideous and horribly made. Underpass is way too big for a regular TD and forget it on FFA. Uhm Rundown is absolute trash theres so many campspots its liek they made it specifically so that everyone culd lay in a house or a bush. Wasteleand and DErail are the worst though lets start with wasteland its wayyyy too big runing a flag takes a minute and not only that the only way through is usually a pit of nades so theres no use ussing the bunker. Derail is so blizzardy its hard to see with a sniperscope sometimes, and the overall map think its th ebiggest and is really annoyign that i waste a minute to get to the guy who camps he kills me then i gotta waste another minute crossing the map to get to him again just to die again...even rust way to small spawning is terrible and the fact you have a 3 story building destroys it cuz the guy up there is almost 100% guarenteed a win if hes good.I wanna see people dying left and right and 5000 point games cause that would be nice a 25v25 and its 500 kills to win thats pretty insane especially when its one medium sized maps where theres just shit flying everywhere.
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Were saying its not a big firefight liek a war, we want it to be amazing shit were bullets fly 24/7 and theres no breaks. Have you even played MW2 yet? because if you have youd see most kids just camp in a corner and the gamem never finishes.I mean sure if your FFA it always finishes if your TD it finishes HCTd never finishes uhm its just a fact most kids just camp out the entire game and get 4 ratios and say their beast.I wanna see the game where its so many people even if you camp youd be able to killa a camper and if not camper all those guys running down the battlefield. Some of those maps ar hideous and horribly made. Underpass is way too big for a regular TD and forget it on FFA. Uhm Rundown is absolute trash theres so many campspots its liek they made it specifically so that everyone culd lay in a house or a bush. Wasteleand and DErail are the worst though lets start with wasteland its wayyyy too big runing a flag takes a minute and not only that the only way through is usually a pit of nades so theres no use ussing the bunker. Derail is so blizzardy its hard to see with a sniperscope sometimes, and the overall map think its th ebiggest and is really annoyign that i waste a minute to get to the guy who camps he kills me then i gotta waste another minute crossing the map to get to him again just to die again...even rust way to small spawning is terrible and the fact you have a 3 story building destroys it cuz the guy up there is almost 100% guarenteed a win if hes good.I wanna see people dying left and right and 5000 point games cause that would be nice a 25v25 and its 500 kills to win thats pretty insane especially when its one medium sized maps where theres just shit flying everywhere.
well...not quite what I was saying, but thats your opinion and i hear what your saying.
i see what you guys are saying. I do play mw2.. a lot.. but i sometimes have problems with campers.. but its not hard to kill a camper lol. <3 Flash bangs. And some matches are really are fast paced. Like FFAs and soem Death matches. But if u like it slower.. almost camp style. Play search and destroy. If you die once your out for the round. So you want see ppl just running around.
I also agree that the game could have had a lot more to it. I would have enjoyed environment destruction, and maybe even dead bodies that dont despawn. But there are hardware limitation. Maybe one day there wont be.
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i have not played mw2 as my laptop (aka piece of shit) would not run anything from after 10 years ago . I have watched a lot of vids online but tbh i also thought that when it comes to MW2, the title is wrong.
Modern warfare to me would imply tactics, strategy and precise execution not some rambo style fighting with all hell breaking loose all around. That kind of warfare with people dying all over suits games related to WW2 where huge battles did take place, and victory was a result of numbers, intel, strategy and determination.
The fist COD game was pretty solid when it came to warfare imho, or at least that is the impression i got when i played through it a while ago.
My friends and i play in this manner. We have strats worked out for every map. We dont spread out and we move as a team. All of us are cops as well and work together.. so we have great communication skills and short codes. This helps us when against the random ppl running around trying to be rambo. We have a number of tricks we use. A nice thing about this game is you can pic what kill streaks you want. Well im usually the UAV guy so that other ppl can use there Kill streaks on more offensive kill streaks. So i use Hardline so that all i have to do is get 2 kills for UAV and then i kill my self. UAV stays up the whole round.
Nice constructive post : P. This thread wasn't about how BF is better, rather how it feels more tactical and war like (IMO). Although i think BF is a much better (and more unique) game, I am not saying it is, because if you don't like it's unique style then obviously you would rather play MW2.
I played BF2 and what I can remember is that your own teammates will kill you over the next spawning F-10 or whatever other vehicle. Sure you can do a lot of things like pilot a helicopter, drop bombs on enemies, and all other sorts of things. But what good is that when your getting blown up by your own guys. In MW2, you earn to be in the AC-130 or Chopper gunner. It's not a race fest to get to the closest vehicle then blow it up because you weren't the one that got in it.
A game that simulates real warfare IS supposed to be slow... you're not going to have flying bullets 24/7, and camping is perfectly realistic, what exactly is wrong with camping?
A game that simulates real warfare IS supposed to be slow... you're not going to have flying bullets 24/7, and camping is perfectly realistic, what exactly is wrong with camping?
Want fast paced? See UT3.
In terms of real life.. yes ppl camp cause once your dead... your dead. But in a game camping takes less skill. Nothing is really wrong with it. It just shows how bad you are at the *game*. Besides that.. campers dont really bother me. Cause they may end my killing streak but ill spawn.. Flash bang there lil eyes into the back of there head... and feed them there heart with my knife. GG
I played BF2 and what I can remember is that your own teammates will kill you over the next spawning F-10 or whatever other vehicle. Sure you can do a lot of things like pilot a helicopter, drop bombs on enemies, and all other sorts of things. But what good is that when your getting blown up by your own guys. In MW2, you earn to be in the AC-130 or Chopper gunner. It's not a race fest to get to the closest vehicle then blow it up because you weren't the one that got in it.
I haven't played BF2, but I have played 2142 a lot and the bad company 2 beta, and I have never had a problem with my teammates killing me for a vehicle. Most often the other players are nice and help you out a lot, as it will help them in return either with points being rewarded, or the fact that together you can do much more damage then alone.
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Looking at the title of MW2 you would think the games multiplayer (maybe the single player is more fitting of the name) would feel like warfare set in today's world, when actually it is like Goldeneye meets unreal tournament. This is not necessarily a bad thing, but to me is inaccurately shown off as something similar to battlefield when clearly it is not even similar. The game is more chaotic in a unreal tournament sense, as to where BF is chaotic in a warfare sense. In addition to that, it is exaggerated in the running speed and blood on your screen aswell (also very extreme like UT). The maps are huge, there's vehicles (core component of the game), destructible environments, squad focused gameplay (usually), with many different ways to go about achieving the goal in the map. I much prefer BF to MW, but that's me and the style i enjoy personally. thoughts...
precisely lol. yes it has modern guns and maybe the single player (although i hear its over the top) is more like modern warfare, but in essence the multiplayer really is not a good representation of modern warfare. in modern warfare you have big environments with vehicles and squad based tactics. this game is more chaotic and is reminsecent of goldeneye meets UT.
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haha while I agree, the thread wasnt really about who's better : P. Ya guys hear what I am saying about MW though? I just feel like MW isnt actually like war, but rather halo or something.
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All I'm saying is the game really is way too fast paced (runs like unreal tournament with the perk), lacks a squad focus like battlefield, environments don't destruct, im fairly certain hum v's are quite commonly found in modern warfare.
mw2 is great (although i hate IW personally), I just dont think it is an accurate representation of war.
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Were saying its not a big firefight liek a war, we want it to be amazing shit were bullets fly 24/7 and theres no breaks. Have you even played MW2 yet? because if you have youd see most kids just camp in a corner and the gamem never finishes.I mean sure if your FFA it always finishes if your TD it finishes HCTd never finishes uhm its just a fact most kids just camp out the entire game and get 4 ratios and say their beast.I wanna see the game where its so many people even if you camp youd be able to killa a camper and if not camper all those guys running down the battlefield. Some of those maps ar hideous and horribly made. Underpass is way too big for a regular TD and forget it on FFA. Uhm Rundown is absolute trash theres so many campspots its liek they made it specifically so that everyone culd lay in a house or a bush. Wasteleand and DErail are the worst though lets start with wasteland its wayyyy too big runing a flag takes a minute and not only that the only way through is usually a pit of nades so theres no use ussing the bunker. Derail is so blizzardy its hard to see with a sniperscope sometimes, and the overall map think its th ebiggest and is really annoyign that i waste a minute to get to the guy who camps he kills me then i gotta waste another minute crossing the map to get to him again just to die again...even rust way to small spawning is terrible and the fact you have a 3 story building destroys it cuz the guy up there is almost 100% guarenteed a win if hes good.I wanna see people dying left and right and 5000 point games cause that would be nice a 25v25 and its 500 kills to win thats pretty insane especially when its one medium sized maps where theres just shit flying everywhere.
well...not quite what I was saying, but thats your opinion and i hear what your saying.
I also agree that the game could have had a lot more to it. I would have enjoyed environment destruction, and maybe even dead bodies that dont despawn. But there are hardware limitation. Maybe one day there wont be.
My friends and i play in this manner. We have strats worked out for every map. We dont spread out and we move as a team. All of us are cops as well and work together.. so we have great communication skills and short codes. This helps us when against the random ppl running around trying to be rambo. We have a number of tricks we use. A nice thing about this game is you can pic what kill streaks you want. Well im usually the UAV guy so that other ppl can use there Kill streaks on more offensive kill streaks. So i use Hardline so that all i have to do is get 2 kills for UAV and then i kill my self. UAV stays up the whole round.
Nice constructive post : P. This thread wasn't about how BF is better, rather how it feels more tactical and war like (IMO). Although i think BF is a much better (and more unique) game, I am not saying it is, because if you don't like it's unique style then obviously you would rather play MW2.
Want fast paced? See UT3.
In terms of real life.. yes ppl camp cause once your dead... your dead. But in a game camping takes less skill. Nothing is really wrong with it. It just shows how bad you are at the *game*. Besides that.. campers dont really bother me. Cause they may end my killing streak but ill spawn.. Flash bang there lil eyes into the back of there head... and feed them there heart with my knife. GG
I haven't played BF2, but I have played 2142 a lot and the bad company 2 beta, and I have never had a problem with my teammates killing me for a vehicle. Most often the other players are nice and help you out a lot, as it will help them in return either with points being rewarded, or the fact that together you can do much more damage then alone.