Well, watching alot of beta footage I saw that you only have 6 key binds (m1,m2,1,2,3,4) and you also have 6 active skills, one for each key. But what if I want to do a build were I need the basic attack? where do I put my basic attack in a way that I still can use all my other 6 skills? Any way, what you guys think? Am I just over thinking and basic attack gona be useless or there is a way to add more key binds? or even swap fast?
please remember that there is passives such as:
Fundamentals (http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/demon-hunter#!d)
Virtuoso (http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#!X)
With this new skill system, I can't even see a way to bind the basic attack anymore. You used to be able to bind it, but when doing so, it would consume one of your slots. You will however use your basic attack, or wand, if you don't have any resources for the skill you're pressing.
Edit: I'm sure that I'm either overlooking something, or they messed up, since if you can't willingly use basic attacks anymore those passives are useless.
Double edit: Upon further inspection, Virtuoso is no longer in the game.
They are clearly moving in a direction towards building the game for idiots; first they simplified the tooltips to the point where they may as well say "SMASH!" and "Zzzzap!", and then they added the idiot-proof skill system to be sure people are choosing both active skills, signatures and others.
So it seems to me that the decision to remove the basic attack came from there. They didn't want to confuse people who didn't know what they were doing. There are signature spells which are free to use, and if those passives are no longer in the game, there's really no reason to use a basic attack...especially when you're being limited to 6 hotkeys.
Seriously why do you wanna use basic attack over the 100 other attacks that is superior in every way? This is like crying about something just for the hell of it.
Seriously why do you wanna use basic attack over the 100 other attacks that is superior in every way? This is like crying about something just for the hell of it.
cause of some skills/passives actually are built around using basic attacks. by giving up a skill slot to use those is a bit unfair though.
Seriously why do you wanna use basic attack over the 100 other attacks that is superior in every way? This is like crying about something just for the hell of it.
cause of some skills/passives actually are built around using basic attacks. by giving up a skill slot to use those is a bit unfair though.
I don't have a char of each class that had such a passive to check, but as of right now, the Wizard one is gone. The others are probably gone too, so there is absolutely no reason to want to use basic.
Seriously why do you wanna use basic attack over the 100 other attacks that is superior in every way? This is like crying about something just for the hell of it.
yeah, I see. But men how dumb can people really be, I remember doing awesome builds in Diablo 2 when I was 10!!
And D3 will be rated "M", and 15 in UK so that should be their target audience no?
No reason to use ranged weapons with witch doctor? Wand for wizards? Melee for either?
I don't give a flying ass what they do to this game to remove this. I want my basic attack on 1 and a new hotkey so I don't NEED to use one of my skill with the left mouse button which is atrocious.
This is basic stuff. Anything else is unacceptable. I don't know why the hell anyone would think otherwise, have some god damn standards.
Seriously why do you wanna use basic attack over the 100 other attacks that is superior in every way? This is like crying about something just for the hell of it.
Well they said you could do a melee demon hunter, and I find a bit hard to do it with out basic attacks, cuz there is no melee ability in the Demon Hunter skill tree.
No reason to use ranged weapons with witch doctor? Wand for wizards? Melee for either?
I don't give a flying ass what they do to this game to remove this. I want my basic attack on 1 and a new hotkey so I don't NEED to use one of my skill with the left mouse button which is atrocious.
This is basic stuff. Anything else is unacceptable. I don't know why the hell anyone would think otherwise, have some god damn standards.
Thanks dude, you said it all!! =]
And how hard can it be to add an extra slot?!
Well they said you could do a melee demon hunter, and I find a bit hard to do it with out basic attacks, cuz there is no melee ability in the Demon Hunter skill tree.
Why would you ever want to, or even need to, melee as a demon hunter? The bows have no minimum range.
No reason to use ranged weapons with witch doctor? Wand for wizards? Melee for either?
I don't give a flying ass what they do to this game to remove this. I want my basic attack on 1 and a new hotkey so I don't NEED to use one of my skill with the left mouse button which is atrocious.
This is basic stuff. Anything else is unacceptable. I don't know why the hell anyone would think otherwise, have some god damn standards.
Aside from the sole reason of dicking around in pvp (think sorcs in d2 with bows), what functionality does doing what you said have in the game?
You want to be able to do it just to say you can do it?
As long as you're going by that logic, I think they should bring back the AUTORUN button so I can walk around ten times slower. I'll never use it - but hey, it's basic stuff and should be there...right?
No reason to use ranged weapons with witch doctor? Wand for wizards? Melee for either?
I don't give a flying ass what they do to this game to remove this. I want my basic attack on 1 and a new hotkey so I don't NEED to use one of my skill with the left mouse button which is atrocious.
This is basic stuff. Anything else is unacceptable. I don't know why the hell anyone would think otherwise, have some god damn standards.
Aside from the sole reason of dicking around in pvp (think sorcs in d2 with bows), what functionality does doing what you said have in the game?
You want to be able to do it just to say you can do it?
As long as you're going by that logic, I think they should bring back the AUTORUN button so I can walk around ten times slower. I'll never use it - but hey, it's basic stuff and should be there...right?
Well you could do a wizard with a wand or even a Xbow (cuz it has higher damage) with full brust capability. Where you don't select a signature spell.
Well they said you could do a melee demon hunter, and I find a bit hard to do it with out basic attacks, cuz there is no melee ability in the Demon Hunter skill tree.
Why would you ever want to, or even need to, melee as a demon hunter? The bows have no minimum range.
please remember that there is passives such as:
Fundamentals (http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/demon-hunter#!d)
Virtuoso (http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#!X)
Edit: I'm sure that I'm either overlooking something, or they messed up, since if you can't willingly use basic attacks anymore those passives are useless.
Double edit: Upon further inspection, Virtuoso is no longer in the game.
So it seems to me that the decision to remove the basic attack came from there. They didn't want to confuse people who didn't know what they were doing. There are signature spells which are free to use, and if those passives are no longer in the game, there's really no reason to use a basic attack...especially when you're being limited to 6 hotkeys.
cause of some skills/passives actually are built around using basic attacks. by giving up a skill slot to use those is a bit unfair though.
I don't have a char of each class that had such a passive to check, but as of right now, the Wizard one is gone. The others are probably gone too, so there is absolutely no reason to want to use basic.
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And D3 will be rated "M", and 15 in UK so that should be their target audience no?
I don't give a flying ass what they do to this game to remove this. I want my basic attack on 1 and a new hotkey so I don't NEED to use one of my skill with the left mouse button which is atrocious.
This is basic stuff. Anything else is unacceptable. I don't know why the hell anyone would think otherwise, have some god damn standards.
And how hard can it be to add an extra slot?!
Aside from the sole reason of dicking around in pvp (think sorcs in d2 with bows), what functionality does doing what you said have in the game?
You want to be able to do it just to say you can do it?
As long as you're going by that logic, I think they should bring back the AUTORUN button so I can walk around ten times slower. I'll never use it - but hey, it's basic stuff and should be there...right?
Edit: See ninja build -> http://us.battle.net/d3/pt/calculator/demon-hunter#ZWgdUi!dbc!aaZZaY
tell me thats not gonna be Legendary!!