I just think that this game is supposed to be, you know, immersive. Every reference piece will remind people that they are, in fact, playing a video game, and are not immersed in the world of Sanctuary. In a game that gives you dance commands or gives you a quest where you sit there and be the guy who hands out quests, sure, some giggly moments and tributes are pretty much ensured. But this is Diablo. It's not that I don't want this game to "become WoW," since that will never happen; it's that I want this game to be Diablo, and I have always appreciated Diablo for being an unswayable fortress of a video game. The only thing that Diablo borrows from other games is purely mechanical, and the only jokes it allows into itself are jokes about itself (such as the cow level.)
Long story short: when I'm playing the game, I don't ever want there to be a moment when I'm reminded that I'm playing a game.
I am sorry to point these out to you but... you leave me no choice.
Blade of Ali Baba, Frozenstein, Messerschmidt's Reaver... etc. Just check the names in the D2 easter egg part of the wiki. I'm pretty certain there are as well many more that people just haven't caught up to. Everything Blizz adds to their games is a reference to something in the real world. Well, almost everything. The names are usually very well hidden though. The point is that with vague things like Tancred people thing it's something they made up and it gets immersive. While in actually a _lot_ of content and names are copied from favorite things that the Blizz developers share.
That is also the case with WoW, but there have been over 25 milion people that played it (estimated from a recent financial call with Morhaime) and so the references get quite easier to spot by the shear number of people with different backgrounds.
I am in no way saying they should slap pop culture in Diablo and see where you're coming from and what you want out of it. And I'm totally fine with it. Just know that this is the way Blizz operates and we will definitely see a lot of it. Especially from other Blizzard names.
Again as other people pointed out, if you've not played the other games you won't even be aware those are actual easter eggs. So by all means, you can totally ignore wowhead-like sites that will inevitably be made, in which people will point these things out. :]
There are several Diablo references in WoW, like a weapon called "Wirt's Third Leg" the Mini-Diablo pet, "Cow King's Hide" and Tyrael pet. What WoW items and references would you like to see in Diablo 3, mood and tone appropriate of course.
I'll start. I'd love to see the following weapons :
"Arcanite Reaper"
"Gorehowl"
There are many references in WoW to other games and movies not only the Diablo universe.
The Diablo universe is very different and i hope don't have to look at WoW references while playing it.
Its not a WoW reference but the Treasure Goblin seen in the beta is a clear reference to similar creatures in the old Golden Axe game. http://youtu.be/wiEwrv6nbiQ I wonder if we'll see references from other games.
I really hope they keep other game franchises out of this as much as possible. I was a bit annoyed already when I saw that you can pick SC or WC themed images for your banner.
Until recently I was so happy with this D3 community and thought I could've found a place I belong, among intelligent people with good discussions and such. But this topic is really opening up my eyes.
Its not a WoW reference but the Treasure Goblin seen in the beta is a clear reference to similar creatures in the old Golden Axe game. http://youtu.be/wiEwrv6nbiQ I wonder if we'll see references from other games.
They had the same sort of thing in Dungeon Siege II as well.
I've never seen a more insecure and hate-fueled people as Diablo fans. It's sad. Most of you are filled with so much irrational hostility towards WoW that you just come off making yourself look like complete tools. I've generally been very civil on these forums, the few posts I've made, but your inability to look beyond anything outside of the box of what you think Diablo should be or what Diablo is has made you completely jaded to the point where you lash out at anyone or anything that challenges your ideas of what you think the game should be.
Everyone talks about the WoW community like it's a cesspit of the gaming world, but some of you guys are worse than anything I've ever seen in WoW. So go ahead, hiss and gnash your frothing teeth at anyone who doesn't have the same mind set as you. Sit in your little world with your hands covering your ears, rocking back and forth and mumbling to yourself about how Diablo is your precious.
Its not a WoW reference but the Treasure Goblin seen in the beta is a clear reference to similar creatures in the old Golden Axe game. http://youtu.be/wiEwrv6nbiQ I wonder if we'll see references from other games.
They had the same sort of thing in Dungeon Siege II as well.
And in Castlevania, though somewhat badly implemented. But I so did love it in Golden Axe! Hopefully the mechanic is equivalent.
I've never seen a more insecure and hate-fueled people as Diablo fans. It's sad. Most of you are filled with so much irrational hostility towards WoW that you just come off making yourself look like complete tools. I've generally been very civil on these forums, the few posts I've made, but your inability to look beyond anything outside of the box of what you think Diablo should be or what Diablo is has made you completely jaded to the point where you lash out at anyone or anything that challenges your ideas of what you think the game should be.
Everyone talks about the WoW community like it's a cesspit of the gaming world, but some of you guys are worse than anything I've ever seen in WoW. So go ahead, hiss and gnash your frothing teeth at anyone who doesn't have the same mind set as you. Sit in your little world with your hands covering your ears, rocking back and forth and mumbling to yourself about how Diablo is your precious.
irrational hostility? No? just no!
people don't want the taint of WoW on the game that's why? Look at WoW, a Blizzard product that has been rotting away since BURNING CRUSADE ENDED, and they still cant get it right? It's a cash cow essentially and people don't want diablo 3 to be another fail cash cow? No one plays WoW because of the quality of the game, people play WoW because of addiction, or, they cant find another MMO out there yet that gives them what they want. If someone tells me they play WoW because it's a great game, they're trolling. WoW has NOT been a great innovative omg amazing game since BC, and I've played from day 1, to about 4 months into Cata. I understand why SC players want no influence, I understand why Diablo fans want no influece what so ever. Not even the name of an item. You dont pay homage to a shit game that hasn't done anything good since what? 07?
Id want a fucking Lost Vikings influenced item or a SC influenced item before you ever touch anything in Diablo with a WoW item.
Yeah boy, lost vikings, better than WotLK and Cata combined, peace fanboi!
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
"...We few, we happy few, we band of brothers; for he to-day that sheds his blood with me
shall be my brother..."
Since when do rotting things grow...? World of Warcraft is still the most successful mmo in history, and is still staying relatively stable in subscription numbers so I don't see how they're 'failing to get it right'. oh and fyi, I have mostly stopped playing WoW, in fact I haven't logged in in weeks but I still recognize the good they've done.
fyi, WoW has never been innovative. In fact really Blizzard hasn't really been widely known for their innovation. Don't get mad at me here, most of what Blizzard has done has been to take ideas other developers have tried, not been able to succeed with, and turn around and perfect them. That's where Blizzard's specialization has always been. And it's worked marvelously well for them.
But that's neither here nor there... the real point is that a developer referencing their other franchises is completely normal, and in fact expected, in a new game. Most developers do it. And it's a good thing, because while most people would never even notice it, those who do will usually get a little bit of extra enjoyment out of it.
:: Enkeria [Twitter / Twitch / Website / Tattoos]
Blade of Ali Baba, Frozenstein, Messerschmidt's Reaver... etc. Just check the names in the D2 easter egg part of the wiki. I'm pretty certain there are as well many more that people just haven't caught up to. Everything Blizz adds to their games is a reference to something in the real world. Well, almost everything. The names are usually very well hidden though. The point is that with vague things like Tancred people thing it's something they made up and it gets immersive. While in actually a _lot_ of content and names are copied from favorite things that the Blizz developers share.
That is also the case with WoW, but there have been over 25 milion people that played it (estimated from a recent financial call with Morhaime) and so the references get quite easier to spot by the shear number of people with different backgrounds.
I am in no way saying they should slap pop culture in Diablo and see where you're coming from and what you want out of it. And I'm totally fine with it. Just know that this is the way Blizz operates and we will definitely see a lot of it. Especially from other Blizzard names.
Again as other people pointed out, if you've not played the other games you won't even be aware those are actual easter eggs. So by all means, you can totally ignore wowhead-like sites that will inevitably be made, in which people will point these things out. :]
Ha. Bagstone.
The Diablo universe is very different and i hope don't have to look at WoW references while playing it.
It's not. People are just afraid of what they don't understand.
I can already see enough of wow in this game, any more and i will call this diablocraft
Agreed.
Ha. Bagstone.
They had the same sort of thing in Dungeon Siege II as well.
[Warglaive of Azzinoth]
but just in a reference way.
Everyone talks about the WoW community like it's a cesspit of the gaming world, but some of you guys are worse than anything I've ever seen in WoW. So go ahead, hiss and gnash your frothing teeth at anyone who doesn't have the same mind set as you. Sit in your little world with your hands covering your ears, rocking back and forth and mumbling to yourself about how Diablo is your precious.
Ha. Bagstone.
http://www.wowhead.com/item=9359
http://www.wowhead.com/item=1830
http://www.wowhead.com/item=38650
http://www.wowhead.com/item=8092
And there's nothing else to it. Just none. Nada. Zero. Zilch. Non. Icke. NEJ!
But I do think they will sneak in something from the other universes as easter eggs. That's Blizz for ya!
irrational hostility? No? just no!
people don't want the taint of WoW on the game that's why? Look at WoW, a Blizzard product that has been rotting away since BURNING CRUSADE ENDED, and they still cant get it right? It's a cash cow essentially and people don't want diablo 3 to be another fail cash cow? No one plays WoW because of the quality of the game, people play WoW because of addiction, or, they cant find another MMO out there yet that gives them what they want. If someone tells me they play WoW because it's a great game, they're trolling. WoW has NOT been a great innovative omg amazing game since BC, and I've played from day 1, to about 4 months into Cata. I understand why SC players want no influence, I understand why Diablo fans want no influece what so ever. Not even the name of an item. You dont pay homage to a shit game that hasn't done anything good since what? 07?
Id want a fucking Lost Vikings influenced item or a SC influenced item before you ever touch anything in Diablo with a WoW item.
Yeah boy, lost vikings, better than WotLK and Cata combined, peace fanboi!
for he to-day that sheds his blood with me
shall be my brother..."
Since when do rotting things grow...? World of Warcraft is still the most successful mmo in history, and is still staying relatively stable in subscription numbers so I don't see how they're 'failing to get it right'. oh and fyi, I have mostly stopped playing WoW, in fact I haven't logged in in weeks but I still recognize the good they've done.
fyi, WoW has never been innovative. In fact really Blizzard hasn't really been widely known for their innovation. Don't get mad at me here, most of what Blizzard has done has been to take ideas other developers have tried, not been able to succeed with, and turn around and perfect them. That's where Blizzard's specialization has always been. And it's worked marvelously well for them.
But that's neither here nor there... the real point is that a developer referencing their other franchises is completely normal, and in fact expected, in a new game. Most developers do it. And it's a good thing, because while most people would never even notice it, those who do will usually get a little bit of extra enjoyment out of it.