But, a major part of this game is based online. I'd bet that most people play this game online with their friends. A cd-key prevents (as far as I know) players with a pirated version from going online. Most people want to play online, so most people will have to buy the game.
God forbid they buy the game lol.
No, I know what you are talking about, my friend and I (5th grade) split the cost of Diablo II. I bought the expansion and he didn't and we were always competing for who could play
Not CD-keys, but an active connection to a verification server whenever you boot up the game, think Half-Life 2.
i'm ok with that, i'm pretty sure its a pretty common thing nowadays.
Not sure its going to happen, though, its Blizzard we're talking about and they already know that people that pirate software will find a way to get around that anyway. Its the same reason i dont believe they'll include limited installations like, say, Spore.
Valid CD-Key for battle.net is the best way to keep customers in and thats what i think they'll have again.
I can't be certain about this but I recall hearing somewhere that Blizzard is doing away with LAN connections. Isn't that one of the main ways people played pirated copies with a group of friends?
With that ability to play LAN being cut out then you kind of need to have the original copy to play with friends. I myself have never tried or even known anyone who plays LAN or on pirated copies so I may just be talking out my ass. I don't know how all this stuff works.
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b.net has no advantage over a Lan game in terms of playing games with friends. On the contrary, Hamachi has better, more stable connections than b.net.
my god, are you forgetting all the ladder only stuff?
ladder has the pandemonium and ubber diablo (also for non ladder irc), and is more difficult, with more unique monsters lurking around
once my ladder character get converted to non ladder due to ladder reset, i just scrap them, cant stand the impossibility of doing an infinity polearm or spirit sword/shield
battle.net Ladder is waaaay cooler
thou there are some really cool mod for lan/SP for diablo 2 out there, like median
Online verifications are a humongous mess nowadays.
It's quite insane to watch all of these elaborate tricks the companies put on their products only to have it cracked by gamers within days of release, and sometimes even before that.
Any attemts to prevent people from pirating games for private use have been utter failures (as far as I know, if it has actually been successfully done, I'd really like know). Putting this crap on games doesn't prevent an average internet-user from playing these games without buying them.
The key in making your customers buy your game as of now lies in multiplayer. Blizzard has realised this I think with Battle.net. Your fans have to buy the game to gain access to their internet-services. This is also why Blizzard cracks down on private servers and LAN. Both of those allow people to priate the game and experience multiplayer, which is what Blizzard will be making money off of in Diablo 3.
PlugY for Diablo II allows you to reset skills and stats, transfer items between characters in singleplayer, obtain all ladder runewords and do all Uberquests while offline. It is the only way to do all of the above. Please use it.
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once my ladder character get converted to non ladder due to ladder reset, i just scrap them, cant stand the impossibility of doing an infinity polearm or spirit sword/shield
Do you mean the impossibilty of not doing them? If so, you can still obtain them, they are just more expensive...
There is no such thing as ladder only stuff. See PlugY.
Well there is the Ladder you can compete hunders of people like that part of the game. And at least in Classic it is still somewhat fun since gaining exp is a bit harder and there are no bots running for exp.
Also the trading is nice.. at least in classic side where in ladder you can be pretty sure that the items are not botted or duped, finding item just for you via trading is quite easy when there are thousands of players. Also many large communities get built up in battle.net.
But I must admit that battle.net glory days are long gone now.. it is really hard to find smart people around there. It used to be kickass place to meetup with nice people in the 2000-2003 or something.
Sure Mr. Bush, you can put everyone under unconstitutional surveillance! It's not like privacy is a fundamental right.
Yeah welcome to the NWO of software licensing, I hate it, I really, really, hate it but we can thank countries that turned a blind eye to piracy such as Venezuela, Armenia, and Bangladesh, to name just a few.
The part that makes me itch more than anything is few companies have good controls in place for those times when you want to move your software to a new computer.
Sure Mr. Bush, you can put everyone under unconstitutional surveillance! It's not like privacy is a fundamental right.
Privacy is a discerned "right". It was never an intended "right" by the founders. It was added in by amendments. But that's off topic, and I'm sure you don't want to go off topic in this thread, since that's against the rules
When you purchase a game to play (especially on the net), if you read the EULA, the opening of said product and use of it on the internet is your signing of a proverbial contract with the company that you use the product, therefor you are liable to everything on their EULA. Anything that's in the EULA you've agreed to (hence "License Agreement"). On internet played games, companies reserve the right to revoke privileges of using the game on their servers, investigating your account without any sort of warrant, deleting or editing your account, the right to investigate your activity and personal information if your information conflicts with your regional mandates, and so forth. So, they have every right to do anything they want with their product, since they made it, you play it, and they own the servers you play on. Also, with most games, not playing on their servers (not including LAN), but instead on another, non-official server, is illegal, since it violates their EULA. They often won't prosecute for that, since it's impossible for them to track such an action, but they legally have the upper hand since by loading/playing the game (and also clicking "accept" when you get to the EULA), you have entered a binding contract with them.
Please do not sprinkle your posts with degrading jargon. It is demeaning, cruel, and untrue. It also violates trolling rules we have here. That being said, I hope we can forget this whole unnerving happening and be jolly great friends
Happy New Year!
Disclaimer: I have a tendancy to take things personally often when its just good ol' sarcastic humor not meant in any way to be offensive. Sarcasm is often hard to discern when you're only dealing with text. I'm honestly very sorry if this post at all offends you, because I don't mean it to be so!
God forbid they buy the game lol.
No, I know what you are talking about, my friend and I (5th grade) split the cost of Diablo II. I bought the expansion and he didn't and we were always competing for who could play
Hey, two copies were expensive lol.
RIP: Demon Hunter: lvl 50 | Barb: lvl 60 (plvl 5) | Monk: lvl12 & lvl70 (plvl 200)
Hell yes!
It encourages people not to purchase the legal copy of the game.
Why anyone would want to play with 20 people instead of millions is beyond me though.
i'm ok with that, i'm pretty sure its a pretty common thing nowadays.
Not sure its going to happen, though, its Blizzard we're talking about and they already know that people that pirate software will find a way to get around that anyway. Its the same reason i dont believe they'll include limited installations like, say, Spore.
Valid CD-Key for battle.net is the best way to keep customers in and thats what i think they'll have again.
With that ability to play LAN being cut out then you kind of need to have the original copy to play with friends. I myself have never tried or even known anyone who plays LAN or on pirated copies so I may just be talking out my ass. I don't know how all this stuff works.
ladder has the pandemonium and ubber diablo (also for non ladder irc), and is more difficult, with more unique monsters lurking around
once my ladder character get converted to non ladder due to ladder reset, i just scrap them, cant stand the impossibility of doing an infinity polearm or spirit sword/shield
battle.net Ladder is waaaay cooler
thou there are some really cool mod for lan/SP for diablo 2 out there, like median
It's quite insane to watch all of these elaborate tricks the companies put on their products only to have it cracked by gamers within days of release, and sometimes even before that.
Any attemts to prevent people from pirating games for private use have been utter failures (as far as I know, if it has actually been successfully done, I'd really like know). Putting this crap on games doesn't prevent an average internet-user from playing these games without buying them.
The key in making your customers buy your game as of now lies in multiplayer. Blizzard has realised this I think with Battle.net. Your fans have to buy the game to gain access to their internet-services. This is also why Blizzard cracks down on private servers and LAN. Both of those allow people to priate the game and experience multiplayer, which is what Blizzard will be making money off of in Diablo 3.
Do you mean the impossibilty of not doing them? If so, you can still obtain them, they are just more expensive...
If they only put multiplayer then it depends on their security system for how fast it will be hacked and how fast they can kick the hackers out..
Sure Mr. Bush, you can put everyone under unconstitutional surveillance! It's not like privacy is a fundamental right.
"Because "half-assed" is not a "style"." - DragoonWraith, champion of character customization and legimitate art direction in D3
Also the trading is nice.. at least in classic side where in ladder you can be pretty sure that the items are not botted or duped, finding item just for you via trading is quite easy when there are thousands of players. Also many large communities get built up in battle.net.
But I must admit that battle.net glory days are long gone now.. it is really hard to find smart people around there. It used to be kickass place to meetup with nice people in the 2000-2003 or something.
RIP: Demon Hunter: lvl 50 | Barb: lvl 60 (plvl 5) | Monk: lvl12 & lvl70 (plvl 200)
Yeah welcome to the NWO of software licensing, I hate it, I really, really, hate it but we can thank countries that turned a blind eye to piracy such as Venezuela, Armenia, and Bangladesh, to name just a few.
The part that makes me itch more than anything is few companies have good controls in place for those times when you want to move your software to a new computer.
Privacy is a discerned "right". It was never an intended "right" by the founders. It was added in by amendments. But that's off topic, and I'm sure you don't want to go off topic in this thread, since that's against the rules
When you purchase a game to play (especially on the net), if you read the EULA, the opening of said product and use of it on the internet is your signing of a proverbial contract with the company that you use the product, therefor you are liable to everything on their EULA. Anything that's in the EULA you've agreed to (hence "License Agreement"). On internet played games, companies reserve the right to revoke privileges of using the game on their servers, investigating your account without any sort of warrant, deleting or editing your account, the right to investigate your activity and personal information if your information conflicts with your regional mandates, and so forth. So, they have every right to do anything they want with their product, since they made it, you play it, and they own the servers you play on. Also, with most games, not playing on their servers (not including LAN), but instead on another, non-official server, is illegal, since it violates their EULA. They often won't prosecute for that, since it's impossible for them to track such an action, but they legally have the upper hand since by loading/playing the game (and also clicking "accept" when you get to the EULA), you have entered a binding contract with them.
Please do not sprinkle your posts with degrading jargon. It is demeaning, cruel, and untrue. It also violates trolling rules we have here. That being said, I hope we can forget this whole unnerving happening and be jolly great friends
Happy New Year!
Disclaimer: I have a tendancy to take things personally often when its just good ol' sarcastic humor not meant in any way to be offensive. Sarcasm is often hard to discern when you're only dealing with text. I'm honestly very sorry if this post at all offends you, because I don't mean it to be so!