The Hammer of the Ancients ability is probably not going to be a spammable one (in the same sense as sorceress skills from Diablo II such as frozen orb). It is probably going to be on a longer cool down and used once in a while to clear large areas of mobs in front of you if you get swarmed or to deal a heavy hit to a boss. That being the case, I have no problem with him having a sort of mystical ability. It's not like he's going to go around hammering the shit out of stuff like the hammer from Super Smash Bros where he can just keep casting and casting. It wouldn't surprise me if it was more of an "oh shit" ability.
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I replied in that post to him that's why it's called fantasy. The skills/spells/attacks can be whatever they want them to be. If they SEEM to have a majical overtone then it sticks to the idea, IMHO.
the Warcraft rts series has had 3 renditions developed for it not including expansions and Wow. You may want to bitch about Wow because its popular and cool to hate it, but there are somwhere in 11 million subscriber range for that game. As much as you may never admit, nearly all of the hardcore warcraft fans play wow or have played wow and enjoyed it. The argument is old and annoying. You guys arent the only blizzard gamers out there no matter how much you want to be the majoirty representation. Stop acting like warcraft fans have been ignored.
For the record I do not play wow, and I happen to be a "hardcore" (I hate the term really) Diablo player who loves the new different artstyle, animations, witchdocter..... and so on.
ps I just chose your post to quote because it was the last one there, so Ill use it as a general example.
Much like McDonald's is the best restaurant because it serves the most, or Wal-Mart is the best store because it sells the most stuff? Sorry, your 11 million number means zero to how good or not the game actually is.
LETS STOP ARGUING!!!!!!!!i THE BARBARIAN IS AWSOME DIABLO3 IS AWSOME LETS WAIT FOR THE GAME TO COME OUT AND BEAT EACH OTHER UP!!!
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Much like McDonald's is the best restaurant because it serves the most, or Wal-Mart is the best store because it sells the most stuff? Sorry, your 11 million number means zero to how good or not the game actually is.
If those people didn't like it, they wouldn't play it.
Probably half of the WoW players are like... ~12 years old kids who find it 'cool' because its popular etc., you know what i mean.
The half of the other half may be something like lifeless teens who dont have a real life, and only get social in some MMO game.
I dont think these people have a proper taste of video gaming, they just like it because it has massive multiplayer and is all about killing funky things and doing quests like kill/gather x many of y...
Hope you get what i mean.
Half of the 8 million subscribers are in china, which if you've ever seen their MMO selection, WoW is a god send.
They make no money off of that half due to them playing under government restricted hours and only paying 8 cents an hour to play.
2-2.5 million idiots actually pay 15 dollars US a month, per account, and that's assuming for everyone one person playing there are two accounts.
Give it realistic numbers and WoW has 1.7 million players world wide, this is not counting China as it's a moot market and only used for boosting their subscription count.
1.7 million people isn't even enough to bat an eye at in the gaming industry. The only reason WoW is mega-bucks is due to the fact that they rip off their customers through expansions and the monthly payment. Truth is, the monthly payments are enough to pay for the expansions to be given free to the players while maintaining stable server access. But if they did that, no one at Blizzard would be driving ferrarris and might have to switch to a Mercedes. That would be terrible.
I hope the next FPS you play you won't shoot "invisible" bullets but instead animated "moar awsomn epic visuals nao" orbs of flashy manga shit.
Seriously, wtf is up with people that need a barbarian swinging a sword (wich can be animated just as interesting, ie, have different animation depending on what weapon/weapontype you are wielding, wich to me is infinitely better then summoning ethereal hammers) cast fucking whatever "kewl magics"? If you are a person that really needs that to get inspired and not bored, if you really think an animation can't be interesting without all that shit, well then you're either 10-12 years old or just a bit retarded.
Pfft, I know about you. "I HATE THE UNREALISMZ!"
Well unfortunately I've run out of giveadamn juice, and your narrow opinion isn't even worth the time I'm typing this to refute. You didn't read what I said, or you find something boring like "oh I can swing it this way and all of a sudden it does more dmg/stuns/ect" to be exciting.
Reminds me of people who find soap operas fun to watch. That's boring crap, and if they're using new technology, they should make the moves a bit interesting looking. I'm sorry that you find any spark of surrealism and special effects so offending that you need to make huge rants about it, but really, if you're an adult you sure as hell aren't acting like one.
For christs sakes, it isn't even as bad as you're making it sound. It's not like his animations are taking up the whole screen. Even your precious Diablo 2 art had moments of "HOLY SHIT ALL THE COLOR IS BLINDING". Your opinion is your own, but it's a tad exteme. So you need to stop crying that river, climb off the cross, use the wood to build a bridge and GET OVER IT.
Blizzard has always tried to make everything as easily identifiable as possible. Sure there are ways to make a sword slash look cool without a lot of effects, but this is an isometric action rpg. Your character WILL be a blip on the screen filled with enemies. You really believe Blizzard should forgo strong, identifiable effects that help the player understand what is going on just because it's apparently stupid?
I guess I'm retarded.
Also, what's with everyone talking about fighting games/FPS, etc? This is Diablo. It's isometric. Things that work in those genres don't necessarily translate over because Diablo isn't as player-centric. You're not in your character's head, watching him swing. You want a ton of moves like "Forward Slash" "Riposte" "Overhead Slam"? This isn't a fighting game.
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i got to page two of this thread before i got tired of people complaining about the "complainers" seriously stfu if you don't have anything to add.
The hammer of the ancients spell looks like crap, i thought that the first time I saw the gameplay demo. Instead of giving the barb a magical hammer that comes from outta no where, while his in-hand weapons disappear, how about adding some badass gothic looking items into the game? remember skullcrusher unique maul? something like that, but instead of seeing a plain maule when equipped, how about showing the item's unique "appearance" on your in-game character.
I expect a rogue type character to be added that will be an improvement over the assassin from diablo 2 who was useless at melee, as she had no AoE, and AOe is the naem of the game in Diablo 2
i got to page two of this thread before i got tired of people complaining about the "complainers" seriously stfu if you don't have anything to add.
I got through 2 posts before I got sick of the same old "too colourful, too unreal, too teen rated" crap. I and many others added their opinion... that the hammer was fine. But apparently we aren't allowed to have differing opinions so "special" people decide they have to "convince" everyone that their opinion is "more right"... and it's the same bull shit over and over and over.... In multiple threads....
THIS is why people complain about complainers, cause all the complainers do is complain for the sake of complaining.
Complain, make a point, move on.
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I expect a rogue type character to be added that will be an improvement over the assassin from diablo 2 who was useless at melee, as she had no AoE, and AOe is the naem of the game in Diablo 2
Clearly never played a kicksin or a pheonix striker.
So we should thank you for your "its fine, stop complaining" contribution? lol
Here's something new, stop complaining about people and start discussing the game, that is, if you want your "contribution" to this forum to be of any use whatsoever.
I never said "it's fine stop complaining". I said I like the graphics of the new abilities and hope they stay that way. People kept pushing their opinions down everyones throat. "No it's not "real"." "The Barb isn't a magic user". SO I countered their complaints. People were asking for people to disagree with them. In fact most of my posts have been constructive arguments about the topic.
But it's funny once you start pointing out things that make sense that people can't deny, they ignore it and go back to "omg this is for kids, it's too colourful" approach.
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"If we're actually making the game worse with no other reason than to be different from WoW, then it's a bad choice." - Jay Wilson (D3 lead designer)
Much like McDonald's is the best restaurant because it serves the most, or Wal-Mart is the best store because it sells the most stuff? Sorry, your 11 million number means zero to how good or not the game actually is.
You can put whatever twist you want on it, but it doesnt mean there isnt any relevance. Even if merely a fraction of those 11 million are "real" players or "actually" enjoy it, your completely ignoring the significance of that kind of subscription number. I dont play wow and dont argue my ass off to defend anything about the game, but i tend to enjoy using logic and making sensible reasoning out of what I know. Your point requires nothing to back it up and is quite lazy, why should it even matter? Because....... you know...... no one has ever grasped at straws like you are.......... thats just unheard of right?
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Paladins can summon hammers out of nowhere... And they got the power to do that from some ancient magic hammer or some shit, its on arreat summit. It does not seem to far a stretch to have a hammer summoning barb.
Paladins can summon hammers out of nowhere... And they got the power to do that from some ancient magic hammer or some shit, its on arreat summit. It does not seem to far a stretch to have a hammer summoning barb.
yea but the whole point of this arguing is that the barb is a melee class, no MaJix!
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Yeah I thought about enigma when typing that.
But that's not a innate skill it's one you gain from a magical object, and I'm hoping it wont be in D3 anyway.
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Much like McDonald's is the best restaurant because it serves the most, or Wal-Mart is the best store because it sells the most stuff? Sorry, your 11 million number means zero to how good or not the game actually is.
http://www.diablofans.com/topic/34229-diablo-iii-beta-impressions/page__view__findpost__p__743763
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Half of the 8 million subscribers are in china, which if you've ever seen their MMO selection, WoW is a god send.
They make no money off of that half due to them playing under government restricted hours and only paying 8 cents an hour to play.
2-2.5 million idiots actually pay 15 dollars US a month, per account, and that's assuming for everyone one person playing there are two accounts.
Give it realistic numbers and WoW has 1.7 million players world wide, this is not counting China as it's a moot market and only used for boosting their subscription count.
1.7 million people isn't even enough to bat an eye at in the gaming industry. The only reason WoW is mega-bucks is due to the fact that they rip off their customers through expansions and the monthly payment. Truth is, the monthly payments are enough to pay for the expansions to be given free to the players while maintaining stable server access. But if they did that, no one at Blizzard would be driving ferrarris and might have to switch to a Mercedes. That would be terrible.
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Well unfortunately I've run out of giveadamn juice, and your narrow opinion isn't even worth the time I'm typing this to refute. You didn't read what I said, or you find something boring like "oh I can swing it this way and all of a sudden it does more dmg/stuns/ect" to be exciting.
Reminds me of people who find soap operas fun to watch. That's boring crap, and if they're using new technology, they should make the moves a bit interesting looking. I'm sorry that you find any spark of surrealism and special effects so offending that you need to make huge rants about it, but really, if you're an adult you sure as hell aren't acting like one.
For christs sakes, it isn't even as bad as you're making it sound. It's not like his animations are taking up the whole screen. Even your precious Diablo 2 art had moments of "HOLY SHIT ALL THE COLOR IS BLINDING". Your opinion is your own, but it's a tad exteme. So you need to stop crying that river, climb off the cross, use the wood to build a bridge and GET OVER IT.
Over confidence is the rot.
I guess I'm retarded.
Also, what's with everyone talking about fighting games/FPS, etc? This is Diablo. It's isometric. Things that work in those genres don't necessarily translate over because Diablo isn't as player-centric. You're not in your character's head, watching him swing. You want a ton of moves like "Forward Slash" "Riposte" "Overhead Slam"? This isn't a fighting game.
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The hammer of the ancients spell looks like crap, i thought that the first time I saw the gameplay demo. Instead of giving the barb a magical hammer that comes from outta no where, while his in-hand weapons disappear, how about adding some badass gothic looking items into the game? remember skullcrusher unique maul? something like that, but instead of seeing a plain maule when equipped, how about showing the item's unique "appearance" on your in-game character.
Or it could just be the cheapest and/or most convenient, not that it was actually good.
http://www.diablofans.com/topic/34229-diablo-iii-beta-impressions/page__view__findpost__p__743763
I got through 2 posts before I got sick of the same old "too colourful, too unreal, too teen rated" crap. I and many others added their opinion... that the hammer was fine. But apparently we aren't allowed to have differing opinions so "special" people decide they have to "convince" everyone that their opinion is "more right"... and it's the same bull shit over and over and over.... In multiple threads....
THIS is why people complain about complainers, cause all the complainers do is complain for the sake of complaining.
Complain, make a point, move on.
Clearly never played a kicksin or a pheonix striker.
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I never said "it's fine stop complaining". I said I like the graphics of the new abilities and hope they stay that way. People kept pushing their opinions down everyones throat. "No it's not "real"." "The Barb isn't a magic user". SO I countered their complaints. People were asking for people to disagree with them. In fact most of my posts have been constructive arguments about the topic.
But it's funny once you start pointing out things that make sense that people can't deny, they ignore it and go back to "omg this is for kids, it's too colourful" approach.
You can put whatever twist you want on it, but it doesnt mean there isnt any relevance. Even if merely a fraction of those 11 million are "real" players or "actually" enjoy it, your completely ignoring the significance of that kind of subscription number. I dont play wow and dont argue my ass off to defend anything about the game, but i tend to enjoy using logic and making sensible reasoning out of what I know. Your point requires nothing to back it up and is quite lazy, why should it even matter? Because....... you know...... no one has ever grasped at straws like you are.......... thats just unheard of right?
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