I will buy it probably. If its WoW crap I will sell it to a friend. That will only take the first 10 minutes of gameplay for me to deside, regardless of whats at the end game. The reason for this being are as follows. DO NOT READ BELOW IF YOU ARE SENSITIVE REGARDING THE ART DIRECTION OF DIABLO 3. I wouldnt want any carebears to cry.
Weapon glow affects = way to intense.
Monster textures//spell castings = copy/pasted from WoW. Example would be http://www.blizzard.com/diablo3/world/bestiary/darkcultists.xml Clearly a undead caster, with the same exact casting moves an undead from WoW. Look at the art design pictures, its face is red, its clothing aswell looks NOTHING like the 3D model.
WoW art style = Considering the lead Art Designer from WoW works on D3. He wouldnt care what art design was put infront of him before turning it into a WoW-like 3D texture. The proof is undeniable considering the dark cultist page and other textures in the gameplay viideo.
For lack of a better term... Its unrealistic from what i've seen so far. Its diablo 3. Not WoW. Its suppost to be a fantasy game, but it was never intended to be a cartoon, cartoon-like, or cartoony, at least that was my take on the diablo franchise.
WoW inventory went straight into Diablo 3. its entire Art style looks exactly like WoW's. They also have purple texted item drops aswell in the game. (thousand pounder and seige assault dropped them).
The strange fog in the very first cupple of minutes in the gameplay video was very... odd... its like eminating its own blue/green glow. If you took all the lights out of the picture, and only had the fog to see off of you wouldnt have a problem seeing lol. The entire dungeon has a blue//green tint about it that just makes no sense. Theres enough lights in that one dungeon to light NYC.
Way to exaggerated armor, I dont really like it when the shoulder pads are able to go through my characters face.
So there not changing it? I would have to say I would honestly be shocked if they did. Because most likely they would be changing everything in the game lol. Some things it really wouldnt hurt if they changed. But if they leave it in a state that it is in currently I either wont buy it, or if I do I will probably sell it to a friend or hang it on my wall with a statement writen under it saying "most anticipated games of the century, that sucked".
Good stuff there, point taken. But don't toss in the towel yet, it has a long time till it's here. Also the textures looking that way I think is because Blizzard downs the graphical quality so they cover a broader spectrum of customers. If they were going to go like Crysis they wouldn't sell as much.
little issues? first 20 minutes? the whole game will have the handpainted cartoon textures and oversized lowpoly dull WoW style.
it cant change and look better the further you get, that would be just stupid, and it wont, blizzard just said it..
and the art is a huge part of the game as its everything you see.
i want Diablo gameplay in a Diablo world, not Diablo gameplay in a WoW world.
Well, number one it's pre alpha you saw, things will probably get a bit polished off. And also, they want it to be on a wide range of systems, they go for low poly. Not everything from WoW is necessarily bad, and it's not really "cartoony" it's just a style they use. The armor does look kinda dumb I guess, but the overall game doesn't look much like WoW. If WoW never existed you wouldn't say that crap, because you think if it looks anything like WoW then it can't be good, with preconvieved notions that the slightest 3-d blizzard stylized game must be happy and sunny all the time like the starting parts of WoW, and even it does get darker in some tougher parts of the game. But what you don't seem to realize is that's the way Blizzard does 3-D, and the way they've implemented it in D3 and SC2 is a WHOLE lot better looking than any Warcraft game.
And sure it may look natural at first because you're fighting in an area that has been peaceful for 20 years so of coarse you won't be stepping into the Chaos sanctuary at the very first of the game, but as you progress things will be more grim and dark, so it will change, Blizzard siad that. It's called being realistic with the storyline, and not giving in to the will of the hardcore gamers who only make up a very small portion of the overall fanbase who loves how they use their art.
Very nice post shelledface. But there are some personal wievs and opinions in there imo.
Dont want to argue though.
BTW did you watch the high-res trailer? It really gives a better and more detailed view on the game.
Indeed, I watched the high-res trailer about 123 times. Theres no comparison between the low-res and the high-res. Its like watching two different games almost.
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Yeah, i think you mean the fact that D1 was dark but the monsters still clearly visible, right?
I think they said something like its not possible anymore because its 3D.
Not sure though.
Quote Wilson:
"However, translating the game from 2D to 3D with a dark color palette didn’t make for the best gameplay experience. The first and second iterations of the art direction had a “modern, gritty look” but made it difficult to distinguish enemies from the environment. “When you have 30 creatures on screen — and four or five different types — target prioritization is a factor,” he said. “You need to be able to tell those things apart fast, and you can’t do that when your world is gray and your creatures are gray.”
I'm abandoning this game, it's illegitimate to me now.
I can see how this is going to turn out, it'll get pirated more than sold and they'll blame the pirating for it's bad business. I myself won't spend my money on this shit when the fucking team has to draw up examples from everywhere else, they can't even speak for themselves, I've had enough of this companys plagarist ways, I quit.
There are many other things than darkness though.
Why green?
ye, waht really bothers me is that he ignored 75% of the aspects of the dark factor, itn not just about how many meters you can see from where you stand
there is nothign that excuses the use of teh cartoony oversized armor and unrealistic lightis color in a serious game that is diablo
I'm abandoning this game, it's illegitimate to me now.
I can see how this is going to turn out, it'll get pirated more than sold and they'll blame the pirating for it's bad business. I myself won't spend my money on this shit when the fucking team has to draw up examples from everywhere else, they can't even speak for themselves, I've had enough of this companys plagarist ways, I quit.
I'm abandoning this game, it's illegitimate to me now.
I can see how this is going to turn out, it'll get pirated more than sold and they'll blame the pirating for it's bad business. I myself won't spend my money on this shit when the fucking team has to draw up examples from everywhere else, they can't even speak for themselves, I've had enough of this companys plagarist ways, I quit.
So I guess it would be accurate to say what you mean is 'F.U. Blizzard', lol had to say it.^_^
More like 10,000 signatures, and that's pushing it. Most of those signatures were the same people signing it over and over again. A couple people even admitted to signing it over 100 times each lol! Blizzard knew it, we knew it, everyone knew it. Fact is, the people that want D3 changed are in the minority. Plain and simple. MORE people like the way D3 is now and Blizzard made the right choice.:)
A few people will complain and cry and make up lies like "Well I'm not buying the game then! WAHHHH MOMMY!" But the fact is, these people will be the first ones in line as soon as the game is out lol! Can't wait for D3!
I'm abandoning this game, it's illegitimate to me now.
I can see how this is going to turn out, it'll get pirated more than sold and they'll blame the pirating for it's bad business. I myself won't spend my money on this shit when the fucking team has to draw up examples from everywhere else, they can't even speak for themselves, I've had enough of this companys plagarist ways, I quit.
Nahh, you people that claim this will be the first in line as soon as the game is out. Blizzard knows it also. Try again. :rolleyes:
. Plain and simple. MORE people like the way D3 is now and Blizzard made the right choice.:)
A few people will complain and cry and make up lies like "Well I'm not buying the game then! WAHHHH MOMMY!" But the fact is, these people will be the first ones in line as soon as the game is out lol! Can't wait for D3!
Purely opinional. Most people dont even post on forums or would look for a petition to begin with. As for if I will be rushing to the store, again... your opinion only. I wont be, and I wont pre-order if they dont change anything either. I would have to say that the only people that are going, WAHHH MOMMY!, would basically be you right now.
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If you get personally attacked by letters through the internet its a good thing to always have a box of tissues and a band-aid around.
Purely opinional. Most people dont even post on forums or would look for a petition to begin with. As for if I will be rushing to the store, again... your opinion only. I wont be, and I wont pre-order if they dont change anything either. I would have to say that the only people that are going, WAHHH MOMMY!, would basically be you right now.
Nahh it's fact. You're not tricking anyone. Sorry. You will buy it and i'm 100% positive on that and so is Blizzard. You people that wanted the game changed LOST, get over it.
Great post Ronkis you hit the nail and slammed a door in there face at the same time. I would have to agree completely with you. His statements are more moronic than anything.
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If you get personally attacked by letters through the internet its a good thing to always have a box of tissues and a band-aid around.
Nahh it's fact. You're not tricking anyone. Sorry. You will buy it and i'm 100% positive on that and so is Blizzard. You people that wanted the game changed LOST, get over it.
so what do you think "us people" will do now? Run to the store like a giddy pansy? When what they have said to ME personally infuriates me even more than what they have done to the diablo franchise so far? (refer to my other post on page 12), I'm going to run out and buy it? Sorry, but you dont even know me, let alone can deside what i would or would not do, currently I wont buy there product. thanks though.
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If you get personally attacked by letters through the internet its a good thing to always have a box of tissues and a band-aid around.
so what do you think "us people" will do now? Run to the store like a giddy pansy? When what they have said to ME personally infuriates me even more than what they have done to the diablo franchise so far? (refer to my other post on page 12), I'm going to run out and buy it? Sorry, but you dont even know me, let alone can deside what i would or would not do, currently I wont buy there product. thanks though.
Bad Grammar aside, I do believe you will play it, regardless of if you actually buy it or not. It's cute how you made the decision already to not buy it, and it's still pre alpha, we have still only seen one video, and its most likely 2 years away....
I don't know how many people watched WC3, but if you saw it pre alpha, and know how it turned out now, it is basically an entirely different game... Blizzard aren't idiots, but most of their fans are, luckily they have the luxury of ignoring most of the crap.
You don't have to know someone to know a decent amount about what sort of person they are, just from what they say, the way they say it, their grammar etc. The joys of understanding the psychology of the human mind.
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"If we're actually making the game worse with no other reason than to be different from WoW, then it's a bad choice." - Jay Wilson (D3 lead designer)
Bad Grammar aside, I do believe you will play it, regardless of if you actually buy it or not. It's cute how you made the decision already to not buy it, and it's still pre alpha, we have still only seen one video, and its most likely 2 years away....
I don't know how many people watched WC3, but if you saw it pre alpha, and know how it turned out now, it is basically an entirely different game... Blizzard aren't idiots, but most of their fans are, luckily they have the luxury of ignoring most of the crap.
You don't have to know someone to know a decent amount about what sort of person they are, just from what they say, the way they say it, their grammar etc. The joys of understanding the psychology of the human mind.
Are you a retard? With there current product I wont buy it. There current project can still change in ways. Regardless of the graphics. Theres many issues im adressing, not one thing, so stop crying about it. You should maybe read before you type, people on this forum are fucking dumb, im outa here peace.
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i would say that even if WoW didnt excist, as its a step backwords, its outdated, and it looks childish..
even the old and far from perfect titan quest got better looking gfx..
(sharper textures and "realistic" looking models and items)
(even though its fantasy it can still look realistic and practical)
blizzard aint making a mature "realistic" "photo-realistic" looking diablo 3, so im very disappointed.
i wanted "realistic" looking armors (and other items) like these:
(yes they can be made in 3d)
not dull handpainted, without any sninyness, oversized and unpractical armors (and other items) like these:
(i turned up the brightness just so its easier to see what i mean)
Well shoot, I didn't just say that the armor looks a bit goofey? Or wait, yes i did.
And they don't want too much detail so it will work on a wider array of systems. I said that.
That's just the way they do 3-D, it's a style that's not really as childish as you'd think, and if you are really not going to buy a game just because it doesn't convey D3 the exact nit picky way you think it should, then that's your loss, I'm just going to laugh at you the whole time while I have a good time playing it.
It's mature enough to get a mature rating, so I doubt anybody can claim it "childish" just because it isn't super dark to where the gameplay is cheapened for the sake of the tiny portion that makes up super hardcore players.
Looks shiny enough to me. Plus when you think Barbarian, do you really think knights in shining armour? I think Blizzard is trying to capture the essense of the wild and unruly character.
i would say that even if WoW didnt excist, as its a step backwords, its outdated, and it looks childish..
even the old and far from perfect titan quest got better looking gfx..
(sharper textures and "realistic" looking models and items)
(even though its fantasy it can still look realistic and practical)
blizzard aint making a mature "realistic" "photo-realistic" looking diablo 3, so im very disappointed.
i wanted "realistic" looking armors (and other items) like these:
(yes they can be made in 3d)
not dull handpainted, without any sninyness, oversized and unpractical armors (and other items) like these:
(i turned up the brightness just so its easier to see what i mean)
You could barely see yourself in Diablo 2, so why even bring up armor and post the inventory image and compare it to worn armor?
Good stuff there, point taken. But don't toss in the towel yet, it has a long time till it's here. Also the textures looking that way I think is because Blizzard downs the graphical quality so they cover a broader spectrum of customers. If they were going to go like Crysis they wouldn't sell as much.
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Well, number one it's pre alpha you saw, things will probably get a bit polished off. And also, they want it to be on a wide range of systems, they go for low poly. Not everything from WoW is necessarily bad, and it's not really "cartoony" it's just a style they use. The armor does look kinda dumb I guess, but the overall game doesn't look much like WoW. If WoW never existed you wouldn't say that crap, because you think if it looks anything like WoW then it can't be good, with preconvieved notions that the slightest 3-d blizzard stylized game must be happy and sunny all the time like the starting parts of WoW, and even it does get darker in some tougher parts of the game. But what you don't seem to realize is that's the way Blizzard does 3-D, and the way they've implemented it in D3 and SC2 is a WHOLE lot better looking than any Warcraft game.
And sure it may look natural at first because you're fighting in an area that has been peaceful for 20 years so of coarse you won't be stepping into the Chaos sanctuary at the very first of the game, but as you progress things will be more grim and dark, so it will change, Blizzard siad that. It's called being realistic with the storyline, and not giving in to the will of the hardcore gamers who only make up a very small portion of the overall fanbase who loves how they use their art.
Over confidence is the rot.
Indeed, I watched the high-res trailer about 123 times. Theres no comparison between the low-res and the high-res. Its like watching two different games almost.
Quote Wilson:
"However, translating the game from 2D to 3D with a dark color palette didn’t make for the best gameplay experience. The first and second iterations of the art direction had a “modern, gritty look” but made it difficult to distinguish enemies from the environment. “When you have 30 creatures on screen — and four or five different types — target prioritization is a factor,” he said. “You need to be able to tell those things apart fast, and you can’t do that when your world is gray and your creatures are gray.”
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I can see how this is going to turn out, it'll get pirated more than sold and they'll blame the pirating for it's bad business. I myself won't spend my money on this shit when the fucking team has to draw up examples from everywhere else, they can't even speak for themselves, I've had enough of this companys plagarist ways, I quit.
there is nothign that excuses the use of teh cartoony oversized armor and unrealistic lightis color in a serious game that is diablo
Over confidence is the rot.
So I guess it would be accurate to say what you mean is 'F.U. Blizzard', lol had to say it.^_^
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More like 10,000 signatures, and that's pushing it. Most of those signatures were the same people signing it over and over again. A couple people even admitted to signing it over 100 times each lol! Blizzard knew it, we knew it, everyone knew it. Fact is, the people that want D3 changed are in the minority. Plain and simple. MORE people like the way D3 is now and Blizzard made the right choice.:)
A few people will complain and cry and make up lies like "Well I'm not buying the game then! WAHHHH MOMMY!" But the fact is, these people will be the first ones in line as soon as the game is out lol! Can't wait for D3!
Nahh, you people that claim this will be the first in line as soon as the game is out. Blizzard knows it also. Try again. :rolleyes:
Purely opinional. Most people dont even post on forums or would look for a petition to begin with. As for if I will be rushing to the store, again... your opinion only. I wont be, and I wont pre-order if they dont change anything either. I would have to say that the only people that are going, WAHHH MOMMY!, would basically be you right now.
Nahh it's fact. You're not tricking anyone. Sorry. You will buy it and i'm 100% positive on that and so is Blizzard. You people that wanted the game changed LOST, get over it.
so what do you think "us people" will do now? Run to the store like a giddy pansy? When what they have said to ME personally infuriates me even more than what they have done to the diablo franchise so far? (refer to my other post on page 12), I'm going to run out and buy it? Sorry, but you dont even know me, let alone can deside what i would or would not do, currently I wont buy there product. thanks though.
I don't know how many people watched WC3, but if you saw it pre alpha, and know how it turned out now, it is basically an entirely different game... Blizzard aren't idiots, but most of their fans are, luckily they have the luxury of ignoring most of the crap.
You don't have to know someone to know a decent amount about what sort of person they are, just from what they say, the way they say it, their grammar etc. The joys of understanding the psychology of the human mind.
Are you a retard? With there current product I wont buy it. There current project can still change in ways. Regardless of the graphics. Theres many issues im adressing, not one thing, so stop crying about it. You should maybe read before you type, people on this forum are fucking dumb, im outa here peace.
Well shoot, I didn't just say that the armor looks a bit goofey? Or wait, yes i did.
And they don't want too much detail so it will work on a wider array of systems. I said that.
That's just the way they do 3-D, it's a style that's not really as childish as you'd think, and if you are really not going to buy a game just because it doesn't convey D3 the exact nit picky way you think it should, then that's your loss, I'm just going to laugh at you the whole time while I have a good time playing it.
It's mature enough to get a mature rating, so I doubt anybody can claim it "childish" just because it isn't super dark to where the gameplay is cheapened for the sake of the tiny portion that makes up super hardcore players.
Over confidence is the rot.
Looks shiny enough to me. Plus when you think Barbarian, do you really think knights in shining armour? I think Blizzard is trying to capture the essense of the wild and unruly character.
You could barely see yourself in Diablo 2, so why even bring up armor and post the inventory image and compare it to worn armor?
I trust them when they say that the "dark, grittty" look just was not working in 3D. The game is going to be great either way!