So I was looking through some of the art here and decided to check out the reveal site to see some of the other entries for the art competition. And the one thing that bugged me is that everyone keeps submitting little midget goblin pictures of the witch doctor...
WHY?!
Blizzard demonstrated with the original models in maya, and it seems relatively noticable in game that he is crouched, but if standing straight is actually taller than the barbarian. It just seems silly that no one seems to recognize it and has decided that witch doctors are little pigmy people.
What about you guys? Am I the only one that knew this? Do any of you have trouble thinking of them as giant people that like to crouch?
I think they did so because the WD would look abnormally tiny compared to other classes when he's hunched over.
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The Witch Doctor is taller than the Barbarian for a few reasons:
1) If the WD was shorter, he would look really small while crouched over all the time, so they made him taller to compensate.
2) Have you watched NBA basketball at all?
How tall are WD females compared to Baba females then?
Female barb might be slightly taller, but as I don't have the original models to pop into maya and straighten them I can't be sure. Either way there isn't a huge difference between the two, female WDs are also NOT pigmy sized.
Uhm, the WD aint taller than the barb on that picture?
Their eyes are at an equal height.. tall helm doesnt make you tall
I agreed with this one. The area for the eyes in their mask are on the same horizontal plane, so I don't think the Witch Doctor is taller then the Barbarian, imo.
Uhm, the WD aint taller than the barb on that picture?
Their eyes are at an equal height.. tall helm doesnt make you tall
I agreed with this one. The area for the eyes in their mask are on the same horizontal plane, so I don't think the Witch Doctor is taller then the Barbarian, imo.
Look at the top of the rounded part of the helm, noticably higher than the barbarians rounded part even disregarding the headress stuff. If you take a piece of paper and hold it to the pick under each of their eyes, it slants downwards toward the Barb. Not to mention the tooltip on the picture, slide made by Blizz, for a presentation at the 2012 GDC, while Lichtner talks about how the witch doctor is taller...
Blah ok I give up... Apparently using the fact that the model creators say the WD is taller isn't good enough, nor is the fact that his eyes are on a higher level than the Barbarians... So you guys win, and Blizzard and general measurement are wrong, WD is infact smaller than the Barbarian and should thus be displayed in fan art as 2-3 feet tall.
The WD may have a taller model but Blizzard really want him to feel smaller.
Fanart are supposed to be based on the idea, not the model precisions. And after all they are just fanart, if you want to draw a 10feet tall witchdoctor or a 2 feet one it doesn't matter.
my question is... why are you looking at that pic.... and not an in game pic? O.o they're showing off armor... not differences in height.
This. Yes they said if they straightened the WD model out it's actually taller than the in game model of the barb, but since he never stands up, so what?
my question is... why are you looking at that pic.... and not an in game pic? O.o they're showing off armor... not differences in height.
This. Yes they said if they straightened the WD model out it's actually taller than the in game model of the barb, but since he never stands up, so what?
So crouching giant = straight up midget? <_<
I'm afraid thats where you've lost me. They clearly wanted to display him as tall and crouching for a reason, and its reasonable to assume that he is an example of what could be expected from similar members of his tribe/profession. People would think its a bit silly to see the barbarian portrayed in fan art as a WoW gnome sized character. But if he crouched it would be ok?
Edit: Btw they were specifically talking about the differences in height. This came from a slide show, the previous shot was discussing the armor with the WD in his customary crouch. To specifically emphasize that the WD was taller, they created this particular slide, and mentioned it.
my question is... why are you looking at that pic.... and not an in game pic? O.o they're showing off armor... not differences in height.
This. Yes they said if they straightened the WD model out it's actually taller than the in game model of the barb, but since he never stands up, so what?
So crouching giant = straight up midget? <_<
I'm afraid thats where you've lost me. They clearly wanted to display him as tall and crouching for a reason, and its reasonable to assume that he is an example of what could be expected from similar members of his tribe/profession. People would think its a bit silly to see the barbarian portrayed in fan art as a WoW gnome sized character. But if he crouched it would be ok?
wait... what the hell are we arguing about? The WD is TALLER, end of story. But he crouches to give him his unique look. So the barb is shorter, doesn't mean he's a midget.
Edit; Just to clarify, i have no idea if they are taller from a lore standpoint. But as far as making an in-game model if they made him the same height as the barb and then made him crouch, he would look way too small.
WHY?!
Blizzard demonstrated with the original models in maya, and it seems relatively noticable in game that he is crouched, but if standing straight is actually taller than the barbarian. It just seems silly that no one seems to recognize it and has decided that witch doctors are little pigmy people.
What about you guys? Am I the only one that knew this? Do any of you have trouble thinking of them as giant people that like to crouch?
1) If the WD was shorter, he would look really small while crouched over all the time, so they made him taller to compensate.
2) Have you watched NBA basketball at all?
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8ft or not, WD is taller.
Female barb might be slightly taller, but as I don't have the original models to pop into maya and straighten them I can't be sure. Either way there isn't a huge difference between the two, female WDs are also NOT pigmy sized.
I agreed with this one. The area for the eyes in their mask are on the same horizontal plane, so I don't think the Witch Doctor is taller then the Barbarian, imo.
Look at the top of the rounded part of the helm, noticably higher than the barbarians rounded part even disregarding the headress stuff. If you take a piece of paper and hold it to the pick under each of their eyes, it slants downwards toward the Barb. Not to mention the tooltip on the picture, slide made by Blizz, for a presentation at the 2012 GDC, while Lichtner talks about how the witch doctor is taller...
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Fanart are supposed to be based on the idea, not the model precisions. And after all they are just fanart, if you want to draw a 10feet tall witchdoctor or a 2 feet one it doesn't matter.
This. Yes they said if they straightened the WD model out it's actually taller than the in game model of the barb, but since he never stands up, so what?
So crouching giant = straight up midget? <_<
I'm afraid thats where you've lost me. They clearly wanted to display him as tall and crouching for a reason, and its reasonable to assume that he is an example of what could be expected from similar members of his tribe/profession. People would think its a bit silly to see the barbarian portrayed in fan art as a WoW gnome sized character. But if he crouched it would be ok?
Edit: Btw they were specifically talking about the differences in height. This came from a slide show, the previous shot was discussing the armor with the WD in his customary crouch. To specifically emphasize that the WD was taller, they created this particular slide, and mentioned it.
wait... what the hell are we arguing about? The WD is TALLER, end of story. But he crouches to give him his unique look. So the barb is shorter, doesn't mean he's a midget.
Edit; Just to clarify, i have no idea if they are taller from a lore standpoint. But as far as making an in-game model if they made him the same height as the barb and then made him crouch, he would look way too small.
Well if he was... He could dunk on the Barb... Thats all I'm saying. But the fan artists don't think so lol.