I've been active for a while here and its safe to say I like the community here :3
I'd like to share a dilemma with you guys thats been bothering me for a while regarding first class to play, I'll try to keep it short. I wouldn't start this topic if I wasn't really annoyed that much.
I've been keeping track with all classes since the day they announced D3. At first, I was sure I'm going DH but after all the changes the class went through since release till now, I've given her up.
WD was never a choice for me, I like the voodoo summoner style, but its no necro substitute for me, so he's off the table.
The real choice is between Monk Wizard and Barbarian. in that order.
I want Monk, but the fear of it being boring due to high cost spenders, lots of generator spamming, lowest amount of skills and passives, and the ugliest armor set that was announced (whats the deal with those shoulders and head, seriously?). So I'm not sure its the path I want to go through. I like it a lot and I love 95% of the spells he has, but still I have this fear after playing patch 14 that it will be very boring eventually. But mostly, I fear its viability in arena, Because it seems like if played right, Monk can get starved out of resources pretty quickly and kited forever, Unless the Fists of Thunder rune actually teleports you to the target every first (or third? it doesn't say) strike to the target.
Wizard is the second choice, I love it a lot and enjoyed it very much in the beta, also there are barely 2 skills I dislike atm, but seems like everyone and his mother is going Wizard because its fun strong and very versatile. I'm just not sure about it in general, I can't put my finger on it exactly.
My main problem with the Barbarian is that they made it some sort of a CD class. Three skills with 120s cooldown (Im not going to waste a passive to reduce it) bums the hell out of me, even when these are very cool spells regardless. Almost half if not more of the skills have a 15+ second CD. I'm not sure its what I want, tbh. I just don't know if it would actually matter (those 15 sec).
Please take into consideration that my main concern is PvP viability. I intend to go arena and I want a class that won't be gimped. I have a tendency to take the weakest class in every game I play. EVERY TIME.
Also, but less important, Wizard and Barbarian topped the polls when people were asked what were their top 2 picks (Barb then Wiz). I'm not saying I thrive to be the underdog, but I do have to say that having the most common class can sometimes be a bit annoying.
So help me chose because I'm helpless. I guess even after making 3948130 builds with those 3 classes I will be happy with whatever but this time I'd like to pick one class and stick with it instead of making them all.
My wife still loves playing the DH in after all the changes.
I am probably going to go Wiz/DH with her and either a barb or a monk for my first solo. But in all fairness I actually like all the classes. Some skills I hate in all classes and will probably never use but the key thing is trying all the abilities as it can really change perceptions of a class (like I hated WD until runes were implemented, then liked it as the base skills bored me).
Monk: fast attacks, but has build up time for Spirit Spender abilities. Heals and dodge for defense.
Barbarian: Slow and steady, clobbers things, relies on raw Armor mitigation and Lifesteal (and some dodge but not as much as Monk).
Wizard: Ranged, pew pew, arguably the fastest out of those 3 due to how their resource meter works. Just remember you won't be as fast as the Sorc from d2 due to Teleport having a cooldown.
Should be obvious which class I favor out of the 3.
For me, Monk is the class I enjoyed the least in Beta. Perhaps it was because I tried Barb first, and after seeing how super strong he was as a melee class, the Monk seemed a lot less powerful. Imo, Monk had the least interesting skills and gameplay, I dont forsee myself ever making one.
My favorite at the moment is With Doctor by far. Super fun spells and gameplay. Easily will be maining one on release.
I also greatly enjoyed Wizard & Barb as well. But as you said, there will be sooooo many created, it might get boring to see them all. But for sure, after hitting Lv60 on my WD, I will be making one of each.
Demon Hunter at this point Im unsure of. I feel she plays simialar to wizard, but imo, not as much fun. Im about 50/50 on passing on her as well, but not entirely sure yet.
Actually, Monk may have felt slow in the regeneration zone but I did a test and tried finishing the beta with all classes with only weapons equipped, nothing else.
Barb died the most times. Like, 8-10 times.
Monk - None
DH - None
Wiz - None
So idk about being weak D:
If id use a randomized I'll be pissed. I'm not good with rolls
Actually, Day[9] (a Starcraft 2 caster) has a system. He says to flip a coin, but not let it decide for you, just to know how you feel when a certain side wins
I can't decide between, wizard, witch doctor, and DH.
I am thinking DH, because I will have less competition for loot and I like the hunter style of play.
But then I think the WD might have the easiest time making the transition to inferno.
However, the wizard kicks some mega ass with her very high dps.
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"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"
I can't decide between, wizard, witch doctor, and DH.
I am thinking DH, because I will have less competition for loot and I like the hunter style of play.
But then I think the WD might have the easiest time making the transition to inferno.
However, the wizard kicks some mega ass with her very high dps.
the WD will have the easiest transition AND is the least liked so he will have the easiest time for loot and there is no loot "competition" since loot is individual now, but he will have lower prices on the auction house VS other classes gear. the DH is the second least liked
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"once the pretty hardcore gamers we had testing inferno found it fairly difficult, we then we doubled it" -trolololol jay wilson
He will share a lot of non-set/class specific gear with wizard though.
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"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"
I've been active for a while here and its safe to say I like the community here :3
I'd like to share a dilemma with you guys thats been bothering me for a while regarding first class to play, I'll try to keep it short. I wouldn't start this topic if I wasn't really annoyed that much.
The Demon Hunter really kicks ass! If you do have the beta, and do not know this, then I don't know what to tell you.
I've been keeping track with all classes since the day they announced D3. At first, I was sure I'm going DH but after all the changes the class went through since release till now, I've given her up.
The Demon Hunter really kicks ass! If you do have the beta, and do not know this, then I don't know what to tell you.
WD was never a choice for me, I like the voodoo summoner style, but its no necro substitute for me, so he's off the table.
Okay, I'll say it. The Necromancer doesn't have shit on the Witch Doctor. When I first started playing my WD in the beta, and the first time he let out Plague of Frogs, I thought, "This is so awesome". He's really fun, and you will love him if you love summoners.
The real choice is between Monk Wizard and Barbarian. in that order.
I want Monk, but the fear of it being boring due to high cost spenders, lots of generator spamming, lowest amount of skills and passives, and the ugliest armor set that was announced (whats the deal with those shoulders and head, seriously?). So I'm not sure its the path I want to go through. I like it a lot and I love 95% of the spells he has, but still I have this fear after playing patch 14 that it will be very boring eventually. But mostly, I fear its viability in arena, Because it seems like if played right, Monk can get starved out of resources pretty quickly and kited forever, Unless the Fists of Thunder rune actually teleports you to the target every first (or third? it doesn't say) strike to the target.
I think you are counting the Monk out prematurely. I have absolutely no problems with my monk. I don't have resource problems, dps problems, survivability problems, nothing. In fact, I might actually main a monk. This is coming from a barb.
Wizard is the second choice, I love it a lot and enjoyed it very much in the beta, also there are barely 2 skills I dislike atm, but seems like everyone and his mother is going Wizard because its fun strong and very versatile. I'm just not sure about it in general, I can't put my finger on it exactly.
My main problem with the Barbarian is that they made it some sort of a CD class. Three skills with 120s cooldown (Im not going to waste a passive to reduce it) bums the hell out of me, even when these are very cool spells regardless. Almost half if not more of the skills have a 15+ second CD. I'm not sure its what I want, tbh. I just don't know if it would actually matter (those 15 sec).
You are acting like the barb needs those cds. Those are going to be for elite mob packs and bosses man. Barbs are so damn awesome in the beta its crazy. What you been smokin?
Please take into consideration that my main concern is PvP viability. I intend to go arena and I want a class that won't be gimped. I have a tendency to take the weakest class in every game I play. EVERY TIME.
Then play Monk. You know Blizzard loves their Monks (Paladins).
Also, but less important, Wizard and Barbarian topped the polls when people were asked what were their top 2 picks (Barb then Wiz).
I'm not saying I thrive to be the underdog, but I do have to say that having the most common class can sometimes be a bit annoying.
I'm wondering why you are worried about what everyone else is doing.
So help me chose because I'm helpless. I guess even after making 3948130 builds with those 3 classes I will be happy with whatever but this time I'd like to pick one class and stick with it instead of making them all.
How did you chose?
How about this: Play the game, and find out which class bolsters your strengths while helping cover your weaknesses.
Unless you can exploit your strengths you will be ineffective.
If you let your weaknesses get exploited, you will be ineffective.
No one is going to be able to tell you which class is best for you, except for you. Stop worry about what other people are doing, and play your game.
Playing flavor of the month, or flavor of the forum classes won't help as much as you want it to.
And my guess is, many of the people playing Wizard probably play a Mage in WoW, or sorc in D2, and they think it will be so easy. In patch 14, Wizards seem to be the weakest of the bunch. And people will have no problems letting the weaker characters lag behind. It happens already.
I just looked on the home page and like every wizard skill was nerfed pretty hardcore. Like meteor took nearly a 50% dmg reduction....
Now look at the WD, he has abilities that hit nearly as hard, and an army of pets. Ohh and his high dmg spells are spammable, whilst the wizard has to cast shitty signatures. WTF!!!
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"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"
As far as pvp goes I can tell you I rolled face with the wiz at last years blizzcon. i had like 44 kills / 6 deaths in a 4v4. Demon hunters at the time were worthless lol, and I think a barb killed me once. Monks couldn't do shit either, if they did try to dash to me i just froze / arcane slowed / tele'd away.
I say we all take to the battlenet forums and start a massive rant/epic anger thread to the blizzard devs. It is unreasonable the way they've designed this game and it's characters in such a way that i can't find a favorite out of all 5 because they're all too good. I truly think this is all just a massive trolling on blizzard's part, so that when we finally get the game in our hands we wont be able to decide on a character because they all are equally as fun and awesome.
Im torn between WD and barb, but then i played the demon hunter and she was awesome. Also the sorc was fun, but then so was the monk. SIGH
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I've been active for a while here and its safe to say I like the community here :3
I'd like to share a dilemma with you guys thats been bothering me for a while regarding first class to play, I'll try to keep it short. I wouldn't start this topic if I wasn't really annoyed that much.
I've been keeping track with all classes since the day they announced D3. At first, I was sure I'm going DH but after all the changes the class went through since release till now, I've given her up.
WD was never a choice for me, I like the voodoo summoner style, but its no necro substitute for me, so he's off the table.
The real choice is between Monk Wizard and Barbarian. in that order.
I want Monk, but the fear of it being boring due to high cost spenders, lots of generator spamming, lowest amount of skills and passives, and the ugliest armor set that was announced (whats the deal with those shoulders and head, seriously?). So I'm not sure its the path I want to go through. I like it a lot and I love 95% of the spells he has, but still I have this fear after playing patch 14 that it will be very boring eventually. But mostly, I fear its viability in arena, Because it seems like if played right, Monk can get starved out of resources pretty quickly and kited forever, Unless the Fists of Thunder rune actually teleports you to the target every first (or third? it doesn't say) strike to the target.
Wizard is the second choice, I love it a lot and enjoyed it very much in the beta, also there are barely 2 skills I dislike atm, but seems like everyone and his mother is going Wizard because its fun strong and very versatile. I'm just not sure about it in general, I can't put my finger on it exactly.
My main problem with the Barbarian is that they made it some sort of a CD class. Three skills with 120s cooldown (Im not going to waste a passive to reduce it) bums the hell out of me, even when these are very cool spells regardless. Almost half if not more of the skills have a 15+ second CD. I'm not sure its what I want, tbh. I just don't know if it would actually matter (those 15 sec).
Please take into consideration that my main concern is PvP viability. I intend to go arena and I want a class that won't be gimped. I have a tendency to take the weakest class in every game I play. EVERY TIME.
Also, but less important, Wizard and Barbarian topped the polls when people were asked what were their top 2 picks (Barb then Wiz). I'm not saying I thrive to be the underdog, but I do have to say that having the most common class can sometimes be a bit annoying.
So help me chose because I'm helpless. I guess even after making 3948130 builds with those 3 classes I will be happy with whatever but this time I'd like to pick one class and stick with it instead of making them all.
How did you chose?
This is after following my heart
I am probably going to go Wiz/DH with her and either a barb or a monk for my first solo. But in all fairness I actually like all the classes. Some skills I hate in all classes and will probably never use but the key thing is trying all the abilities as it can really change perceptions of a class (like I hated WD until runes were implemented, then liked it as the base skills bored me).
Barbarian: Slow and steady, clobbers things, relies on raw Armor mitigation and Lifesteal (and some dodge but not as much as Monk).
Wizard: Ranged, pew pew, arguably the fastest out of those 3 due to how their resource meter works. Just remember you won't be as fast as the Sorc from d2 due to Teleport having a cooldown.
Should be obvious which class I favor out of the 3.
Would you prefer to have more survivability? Go with the Barbarian.
Would you prefer to be more of a glass cannon? Go with the Wizard.
That's my opinion at least.
My favorite at the moment is With Doctor by far. Super fun spells and gameplay. Easily will be maining one on release.
I also greatly enjoyed Wizard & Barb as well. But as you said, there will be sooooo many created, it might get boring to see them all. But for sure, after hitting Lv60 on my WD, I will be making one of each.
Demon Hunter at this point Im unsure of. I feel she plays simialar to wizard, but imo, not as much fun. Im about 50/50 on passing on her as well, but not entirely sure yet.
Actually, Monk may have felt slow in the regeneration zone but I did a test and tried finishing the beta with all classes with only weapons equipped, nothing else.
Barb died the most times. Like, 8-10 times.
Monk - None
DH - None
Wiz - None
So idk about being weak D:
If id use a randomized I'll be pissed. I'm not good with rolls
lol if it goes on edge I will go Wiz D:
Actually, Day[9] (a Starcraft 2 caster) has a system. He says to flip a coin, but not let it decide for you, just to know how you feel when a certain side wins
I am thinking DH, because I will have less competition for loot and I like the hunter style of play.
But then I think the WD might have the easiest time making the transition to inferno.
However, the wizard kicks some mega ass with her very high dps.
Epicurus
the WD will have the easiest transition AND is the least liked so he will have the easiest time for loot and there is no loot "competition" since loot is individual now, but he will have lower prices on the auction house VS other classes gear. the DH is the second least liked
Epicurus
The Demon Hunter really kicks ass! If you do have the beta, and do not know this, then I don't know what to tell you.
The Demon Hunter really kicks ass! If you do have the beta, and do not know this, then I don't know what to tell you.
Okay, I'll say it. The Necromancer doesn't have shit on the Witch Doctor. When I first started playing my WD in the beta, and the first time he let out Plague of Frogs, I thought, "This is so awesome". He's really fun, and you will love him if you love summoners.
I think you are counting the Monk out prematurely. I have absolutely no problems with my monk. I don't have resource problems, dps problems, survivability problems, nothing. In fact, I might actually main a monk. This is coming from a barb.
Mark my words: Wizard will be the weakest class.
You are acting like the barb needs those cds. Those are going to be for elite mob packs and bosses man. Barbs are so damn awesome in the beta its crazy. What you been smokin?
Then play Monk. You know Blizzard loves their Monks (Paladins).
I'm wondering why you are worried about what everyone else is doing.
How about this: Play the game, and find out which class bolsters your strengths while helping cover your weaknesses.
Unless you can exploit your strengths you will be ineffective.
If you let your weaknesses get exploited, you will be ineffective.
No one is going to be able to tell you which class is best for you, except for you. Stop worry about what other people are doing, and play your game.
Playing flavor of the month, or flavor of the forum classes won't help as much as you want it to.
And my guess is, many of the people playing Wizard probably play a Mage in WoW, or sorc in D2, and they think it will be so easy. In patch 14, Wizards seem to be the weakest of the bunch. And people will have no problems letting the weaker characters lag behind. It happens already.
ya but his class specific gear and sets are what matters and what will cost the most
Now look at the WD, he has abilities that hit nearly as hard, and an army of pets. Ohh and his high dmg spells are spammable, whilst the wizard has to cast shitty signatures. WTF!!!
Epicurus
I say we all take to the battlenet forums and start a massive rant/epic anger thread to the blizzard devs. It is unreasonable the way they've designed this game and it's characters in such a way that i can't find a favorite out of all 5 because they're all too good. I truly think this is all just a massive trolling on blizzard's part, so that when we finally get the game in our hands we wont be able to decide on a character because they all are equally as fun and awesome.
Im torn between WD and barb, but then i played the demon hunter and she was awesome. Also the sorc was fun, but then so was the monk. SIGH