is lvling legendary Gems broken? I have noticed that sometimes when lvling legendary gems that nothing happens. No sound or indication of fail or success but yet it eats a roll and gem doesn't lvl. (@ 100% chance)
I think I've noticed this also but. if you click really fast to upgrade a gem it will let you now, before you could not do that. I'd really need to watch my gem levels before I agree. But ya that does happen where you get no acknowledgment that you have just clicked to upgrade a gem. I just never thought to see if it worked as far as gem level goes. It is possible that the new change to how fast you can upgrade them is whats happening.
At first I noticed the no sound or indication but i took notice of the gem NOT lvling when i started paying 200+mill for that extra roll. (I should note tho that most of the time the gems DOES lvl when there is no sound indicating)
I think it's more of a sound / appearance bug. It kinds of let me upgrade real fast minus the animation but it works fine. It fails/ succeeds the same just without the delay and DING success/ Fail splat sound
I noticed this, and was extremely pleased with it.
1) The no sound/indication is a 'clipped' animation timing thing. Well accepted.
2) If it does skip the animation/sound, and does not upgrade your gem, then you didn't have 100% chance, and it failed.
3) If you have 100% upgrade chance, and you empowered the rift, it still means you have to have 100% chance on all 4 levels to guarantee an upgrade. Yes 90%'s can fail.
Basically, it's not failing due to this 'bug'... it's failing because your chance to upgrade sucks.
A friend failed a 100% upgrade. I saw it with my own eyes. He had 4 tries at 100% and ended up with 3 upgrades total. He clicked fast on the button and he clicked them all because we could close the gr.
The odds are bugged too:
The distribution of success rate of 80% is abnormal. I wrote down until yesterday for 4 days the success rates (I posted on blizzard board) and I am very unlucky or there is something amiss.
The distribution of success rate of 60% is abnormal too. I have a failure rate over 90% for the 60% odd. It is not on a few tens of tries but close to 300 now.
Last season I kept records for close to 1300 non-100% tries (I wanted 2 full set (26 gems) level 70 for the calderann's despair when the season ended) and the distribution of results were quite close to the said upgrade odds (Of course, I had a lot less 90%-80%-70% tries so those are further than 60%-30% tries).Right now, the 80% and 60% distribution is horrible.
P.S.: For the trolls talking about RNG (but not knowing stats and probabilities) and considering a 90% failure for 60% it completely normal BECAUSE IT IS RNG, before posting on that thread, just make an easy Excel macro, generate ONLY 150 numbers from 1 to 100, and calculate the distribution. You will see it will be trending very close toward 50%.
I have played close attention to this glitch and while speed leveling low gems, for example a level 1 gem from an empowered GR 55, I have yet to see a 100% chance fail to upgrade due to this glitch, in about 250 attempts.
Not saying that it didn't happen for you, but it doesn't seem like this glitch effects upgrade chance.
The issue is when you spam click and the glitch occurs, the probability of success does not appear on the screen. So the first try most likely said 100%, but you didn't see what the probability was on subsequent tries because you spam clicked the button.
Most likely what happened was you upgrades a gem 4 times rapidly from a rift of only 10-13 levels higher, resulting in a 90-80% success rate on later tries without you realizing it
And other comments on RNG, it's just RNG. Reported probabilities such as gem upgrades I would trust as gold and say your unlucky. always consider sample size when complaining about RNG. I bet most of your 'unlucky' feelings come from short stretches rather than the average of 100-1000 pieces of data.
just think. With a sample size of 4, it is literally impossible for you to experience a 60% success rate on a gem upgrade.
I'm pretty sure, that 4th try he had 90% chance, but he couldn't see it because he was clicking too fast. That happened to me too, no sound and no upgrade, but chance was for sure lower than 100%.
A friend failed a 100% upgrade. I saw it with my own eyes. He had 4 tries at 100% and ended up with 3 upgrades total. He clicked fast on the button and he clicked them all because we could close the gr.
The odds are bugged too:
The distribution of success rate of 80% is abnormal. I wrote down until yesterday for 4 days the success rates (I posted on blizzard board) and I am very unlucky or there is something amiss.
The distribution of success rate of 60% is abnormal too. I have a failure rate over 90% for the 60% odd. It is not on a few tens of tries but close to 300 now.
Last season I kept records for close to 1300 non-100% tries (I wanted 2 full set (26 gems) level 70 for the calderann's despair when the season ended) and the distribution of results were quite close to the said upgrade odds (Of course, I had a lot less 90%-80%-70% tries so those are further than 60%-30% tries).Right now, the 80% and 60% distribution is horrible.
P.S.: For the trolls talking about RNG (but not knowing stats and probabilities) and considering a 90% failure for 60% it completely normal BECAUSE IT IS RNG, before posting on that thread, just make an easy Excel macro, generate ONLY 150 numbers from 1 to 100, and calculate the distribution. You will see it will be trending very close toward 50%.
You cannot close the GR if any person at all still has gems upgrading tries to do! It's impossible!
Some of us so called "RNG trolls" do understand probability quite well.
and if you understand probability you would understand that given that everyone playing Diablo this season has 300 tries on a 60% chance for gems, a bell curve of what people actually experience for a success rate is created. Your story of 90% failure would be multiple standard deviations from the center of the bell, and something very low percentage like .01% of people playing would experience what you did. Considering how many people play Diablo... And considering that most people don't experience the "bug" that you experience, the most likely reasoning for your issues is that you happen to be that very very very "unlucky" person. not that diablo is broken.
I don't think it's bugged. Since responding the first time I've leveled a few gems and did get a no sound no animation quite a bit. I paid to upgrade them and every single one i upgraded made it to 24 by 6th run. So far the levels are working out its just the animations and sounds were missing.
Edit: Just in case its their level when they or if they bug out. Up to level 30 is what ive tested so far. Below 30 I can say I had no issues.
is lvling legendary Gems broken? I have noticed that sometimes when lvling legendary gems that nothing happens. No sound or indication of fail or success but yet it eats a roll and gem doesn't lvl. (@ 100% chance)
I think I've noticed this also but. if you click really fast to upgrade a gem it will let you now, before you could not do that. I'd really need to watch my gem levels before I agree. But ya that does happen where you get no acknowledgment that you have just clicked to upgrade a gem. I just never thought to see if it worked as far as gem level goes. It is possible that the new change to how fast you can upgrade them is whats happening.
At first I noticed the no sound or indication but i took notice of the gem NOT lvling when i started paying 200+mill for that extra roll. (I should note tho that most of the time the gems DOES lvl when there is no sound indicating)
I think it's more of a sound / appearance bug. It kinds of let me upgrade real fast minus the animation but it works fine. It fails/ succeeds the same just without the delay and DING success/ Fail splat sound
I noticed this, and was extremely pleased with it.
1) The no sound/indication is a 'clipped' animation timing thing. Well accepted.
2) If it does skip the animation/sound, and does not upgrade your gem, then you didn't have 100% chance, and it failed.
3) If you have 100% upgrade chance, and you empowered the rift, it still means you have to have 100% chance on all 4 levels to guarantee an upgrade. Yes 90%'s can fail.
Basically, it's not failing due to this 'bug'... it's failing because your chance to upgrade sucks.
I am convinced the gem upgrade IS bugged.
A friend failed a 100% upgrade. I saw it with my own eyes. He had 4 tries at 100% and ended up with 3 upgrades total. He clicked fast on the button and he clicked them all because we could close the gr.
The odds are bugged too:
The distribution of success rate of 80% is abnormal. I wrote down until yesterday for 4 days the success rates (I posted on blizzard board) and I am very unlucky or there is something amiss.
The distribution of success rate of 60% is abnormal too. I have a failure rate over 90% for the 60% odd. It is not on a few tens of tries but close to 300 now.
Last season I kept records for close to 1300 non-100% tries (I wanted 2 full set (26 gems) level 70 for the calderann's despair when the season ended) and the distribution of results were quite close to the said upgrade odds (Of course, I had a lot less 90%-80%-70% tries so those are further than 60%-30% tries).Right now, the 80% and 60% distribution is horrible.
P.S.: For the trolls talking about RNG (but not knowing stats and probabilities) and considering a 90% failure for 60% it completely normal BECAUSE IT IS RNG, before posting on that thread, just make an easy Excel macro, generate ONLY 150 numbers from 1 to 100, and calculate the distribution. You will see it will be trending very close toward 50%.
I AM positive that since this patch that gem levelling is OFF.
The amount of times I have failed on 60-90 is through the roof.
I regularly have 4 shots at 60% and am lucky to get one,
Pre patch i would say completely the other way.
I dunno if im just unlucky but the regularity with which i fail over 60% is off the charts!
I have played close attention to this glitch and while speed leveling low gems, for example a level 1 gem from an empowered GR 55, I have yet to see a 100% chance fail to upgrade due to this glitch, in about 250 attempts.
Not saying that it didn't happen for you, but it doesn't seem like this glitch effects upgrade chance.
The issue is when you spam click and the glitch occurs, the probability of success does not appear on the screen. So the first try most likely said 100%, but you didn't see what the probability was on subsequent tries because you spam clicked the button.
Most likely what happened was you upgrades a gem 4 times rapidly from a rift of only 10-13 levels higher, resulting in a 90-80% success rate on later tries without you realizing it
And other comments on RNG, it's just RNG. Reported probabilities such as gem upgrades I would trust as gold and say your unlucky. always consider sample size when complaining about RNG. I bet most of your 'unlucky' feelings come from short stretches rather than the average of 100-1000 pieces of data.
just think. With a sample size of 4, it is literally impossible for you to experience a 60% success rate on a gem upgrade.
I'm pretty sure, that 4th try he had 90% chance, but he couldn't see it because he was clicking too fast. That happened to me too, no sound and no upgrade, but chance was for sure lower than 100%.
Some of us so called "RNG trolls" do understand probability quite well.
and if you understand probability you would understand that given that everyone playing Diablo this season has 300 tries on a 60% chance for gems, a bell curve of what people actually experience for a success rate is created. Your story of 90% failure would be multiple standard deviations from the center of the bell, and something very low percentage like .01% of people playing would experience what you did. Considering how many people play Diablo... And considering that most people don't experience the "bug" that you experience, the most likely reasoning for your issues is that you happen to be that very very very "unlucky" person. not that diablo is broken.
Fair enough but i have noticed the high percentage fails after the patch and just put 2 and 2 together.
regularly failing 70/80/90% i must be the unluckiest man on earth.
Ps....I still think its bugged.
I don't think it's bugged. Since responding the first time I've leveled a few gems and did get a no sound no animation quite a bit. I paid to upgrade them and every single one i upgraded made it to 24 by 6th run. So far the levels are working out its just the animations and sounds were missing.
Edit: Just in case its their level when they or if they bug out. Up to level 30 is what ive tested so far. Below 30 I can say I had no issues.
How about trying a few 60% ers....
When u regularly fail them see how u like it!
It feels bugged to me too.