So I read some rumors in a thread on the forums, which stated that after the xp boosts to the MP levels, it is no longer needed to use an xp gem or hellfire ring.
Anyone that can clarify on this?
Only reason I can think of is that there is diminishing returns on +xp%.
Looking forward to hearing from someone more enlightened than me
Edit: Been a long time reader of the forums, but havnen't got myself around to posting. If someone is interested in giving me some advice on where to take my char next, that would be great. Feels like I've hit a wall when it comes to gearing, where every piece of gear costs like 300m+ to upgrade. Maybe someone here see's something I do not.
It was never "needed", in general, it just made leveling quicker, and it still does. But since MP bonus is bigger, the XP bonus from gem/hellfire is proportionally lower in your total XP bonus. So, if you farm MP5, your total XP bonus got buffed from 60+31+35+75=201% to 165+31+35+75=306%, and the 31+35=66% xp bonus from gem+hellfire now makes about 22% of the total XP bonus, and that's what you lose if you unequip them.
Hey , hmm if u wanna lvl fastest way possible, u still need hellfire and gem... It just suffers from DR more, because they increased bonus xp granted by higher MP
My general rule of thumb is: if I lose 10% DPS while gaining 8% bonus XP it doesn't make sense to equip the bonus XP item, because it'll slow down my kill speed more than it'll increase my XP gain.
Even if it's even (5% DPS vs 5% XP) I'd choose the DPS over XP, because 1) more loot and 2) more damage, bigger numbers! ;-) I switched to an Andariel's w/o socket now for high MP and ditched my Mempo (still useful for low MP runs).
Hey , hmm if u wanna lvl fastest way possible, u still need hellfire and gem... It just suffers from DR more, because they increased bonus xp granted by higher MP
My general rule of thumb is: if I lose 10% DPS while gaining 8% bonus XP it doesn't make sense to equip the bonus XP item, because it'll slow down my kill speed more than it'll increase my XP gain.
Even if it's even (5% DPS vs 5% XP) I'd choose the DPS over XP, because 1) more loot and 2) more damage, bigger numbers! ;-) I switched to an Andariel's w/o socket now for high MP and ditched my Mempo (still useful for low MP runs).
Thanks alot for the chart. helped alot!
Think i'll switch out the ring atleast, as I can gain most dps there. Only more HP to gain on the head if I don't switch that out.
Zehkari had a good point tbh, and I am extremely tired of farming low mp's. (usually rush through mp2)
Sounds like a good and very fun idead to farm mp4-5 now that you get much more xp then you used to do.
Firstly I am not an expert at this game I am just like you and want to see what works. So lately I have been farming higher mp levels 4-7 with my monk and have found that it is more effective/fun and I get more ilvl63 drops when I farm higher MP with DPS gear over low MP with XP gear. Like BagStone, I too say to myself, if equipping my nat's ring gives me 10% more dps and I lose my HF ring, is it worth it? My answer is yes. But if you do not have the gear that makes that big impact, I would recommend keeping your xp gear, farming low levels and work around with what you can.
When I have amethyst in my helm, great DPS gear with some decent spirit regen, I survive longer and deal more damage. I found that I can tempest rush in MP4 and one hit most trash, and survive long enough to kill elites in a few seconds, much harder with those xp/ spirit regen items. If i can one hit mobs mp0- mp4, why would I chose mp0? It seems just as effective to me but than again, I don't study this game or make charts
That chart bagstone made is useful. The only thing I think that is truly useless now (unless you're paying mp0) are leoric's. The huge loss in dps is not worth the minimal gain. I personally run on mp3 with a ruby in helm and hf ring. I timed numerous runs and mp3 is efficient for me in terms of exp/hour.
So I read some rumors in a thread on the forums, which stated that after the xp boosts to the MP levels, it is no longer needed to use an xp gem or hellfire ring.
Anyone that can clarify on this?
Only reason I can think of is that there is diminishing returns on +xp%.
Looking forward to hearing from someone more enlightened than me
Edit: Been a long time reader of the forums, but havnen't got myself around to posting. If someone is interested in giving me some advice on where to take my char next, that would be great. Feels like I've hit a wall when it comes to gearing, where every piece of gear costs like 300m+ to upgrade. Maybe someone here see's something I do not.
Armory: http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Imajeep-2110/hero/13657914
Should've posted it in general section, I suppose. Anyways, here's the table where you can look it up (assumes NV5, for NV0 check here):
My general rule of thumb is: if I lose 10% DPS while gaining 8% bonus XP it doesn't make sense to equip the bonus XP item, because it'll slow down my kill speed more than it'll increase my XP gain.
Even if it's even (5% DPS vs 5% XP) I'd choose the DPS over XP, because 1) more loot and 2) more damage, bigger numbers! ;-) I switched to an Andariel's w/o socket now for high MP and ditched my Mempo (still useful for low MP runs).
Thanks alot for the chart. helped alot!
Think i'll switch out the ring atleast, as I can gain most dps there. Only more HP to gain on the head if I don't switch that out.
Zehkari had a good point tbh, and I am extremely tired of farming low mp's. (usually rush through mp2)
Sounds like a good and very fun idead to farm mp4-5 now that you get much more xp then you used to do.
When I have amethyst in my helm, great DPS gear with some decent spirit regen, I survive longer and deal more damage. I found that I can tempest rush in MP4 and one hit most trash, and survive long enough to kill elites in a few seconds, much harder with those xp/ spirit regen items. If i can one hit mobs mp0- mp4, why would I chose mp0? It seems just as effective to me but than again, I don't study this game or make charts