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Why does everybody bitch and whine constantly, going over the same shit that has been said a thousand times. Diablo III is fucking amazing, regardless of its flaws and shortcomings. Nobody discusses what Blizzard did right.

What did they do right? What did they do that is worthy of the Diablo franchise name?

What did you do to make your opinion matter more than the rest of ours? I think the game is awesome and worthy of Diablo franchise name. It's a lot of fun. That's all it needs to be. Many others share that opinion with me. We don't need to justify to you why it's good, because we could really care less if you play or not.

What makes you think people who dislike the game need to justify anything to you? Or to anyone for that matter. At what point did the guy you quoted attempt to push is opinions on the rest of us? Do you feel this way because he/she didn't add something like "I think" or "In my opinion"?

Really, who cares about your opinion of the game? Why should the person you quoted give two shits about what you said? It's funny, the person you quoted made a blanket statement about a studio that made a game, and YOU took it as a personal attack.

This whole idea of "Oh god, someone doesn't like something I like... I should argue with them, belittle them, insult them and break their spirits until they believe as I do." needs to stop. It's okay to have your opinions. It's okay for someone to opose your opionions. It's fine to argue the reasons why your opinions are what they are... What we don't need is the condesending attitude, the belittling and the insulting that seems to go along with the opinions.

I enjoy making fun of butthurt scrubs who want to be spoon fed everything. Diablofans forums is a good place for finding these types of players.

---This topic presents heavy amounts of whining against Blizzard. Everything written here is opinion, despite some emotional statement that would make you think otherwise---

Welcome. Today (don't worry, its not a daily thing), I'm going to be sharing what I believe of Blizzard's broken design philosophies. I have such a huge amount of disappointment toward Blizzard, but also toward gaming in general, and I just HAD to point out what I wholeheartedly disagree with.

The order on this is a bit of a mess. Some issues are very small, some issues are big.


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End-game = Copy-paste difficulty, boost number, make it a giant gear check. The harsh truth is, they thought about what sort of end game to add for months on end and came up with NOTHING AT ALL.

Limited amount of hotkeys directly linked to skills, one of the most absurd thing I've seen. Why am I forced to 6 hotkeys? Why am I forced to use a skill on the button used for movement? Why am I denied to use some hotkeys until I'm level 19?

No other methods of hotkeys. You could once use TAB to switch between 2 skills on the right mouse button. It is gone. So can't you use the mousewheel to switch between skills. Where are the options, there are none whatsoever.

Elective mode is easily the dumbest addition to the game. Added as an excuse to make the game easier for players, it actually makes them completely ignorant to what you can do in Diablo 3. Bravo, Blizzard. Nobody asked for such an option and nobody is even close to needing it. You just think your clientele is a bunch of idiots, and thats all there is to this. So much streamlining is incredibly unneccessary.

When out of resource and try to cast a long range ability, your dumb ass self will walk toward their enemies with his melee weapon and compromise himself. Thats why the left mouse button should be a dedicated movement button. *sigh*

The story... is horrible... ouch... how did this get pass quality testing... thats right, they don't do that at Blizzard...

No alternative control. (WASD)

Always online and everything that comes with it. There is no excuse for it, always online is forced for their profits on the RMAH, nothing else.

As a result of the above, kills any hopes of modding. Obviously, even though games in 1999 had room for incredible modding, the heart of PC gaming, developers don't care now. Willingly opposing modding in any game is a travesty. Get out of PC gaming if you don't care.

Lack of options in general. Their excuses being "we don't want to overwhelm the gamer with options" (not their exact words). This is the worst excuse I have ever seen. There is NO such thing as too much options. Advanced options (or ini options) and changing details to my liking IS WHY I LOVE PC GAMING. Not only that, but adding options is EASY. YES, its easy. I could add 10 of the most wanted options in 30 minutes and I'm not a good programmer. ITS JUST THAT DAMN EASY.

Another idiotic design philosophy is the following: Why some melee attacks can hit you from 20 meters? Because "its intended". Because then the "most effective" way is to dodge attacks, and thats "not fun". Guess what, getting hit 20 meters away (melee range + always online + lag makes it absolutely huge how far you can get hit from), now THATS what is "not fun" about it. You can't see that, you have the worst design philosophies I have EVER SEEN.

Auction House made the focus of the game. Drop rates adjusted in consequences. As a result, the loot metagame is less satisfying in this game than it was in any other games I have played with loot. Because of this, the auction house is a sin.

Grinding-based gameplay. Nothing logical about doing the same part 100 times just to get new items. This is both a stupid design philosophy, and something a lot of people need serious psychological help with. No, you will not tell me you're having fun doing the exact same run a hundred times in a row. You're just addicted like a drug addict, thinking his drug is making his life better. Excessive grinding is evil, period. Go get help if you had fun killing Baal 1000 times a day. You seriously need it. Even if Diablo 3 made it more bearable with gold and not having to farm one area, you're not going anywhere in Inferno without it.

To clarify a few things about what I think is bad grinding: I don't even think some MMOs like WoW do it so bad, because you're constantly doing something different, which justifies the fun of it. Until you get to raiding. Then you raid the same thing a thousand times. If you didn't quit after the 50th times you've done the latest raid... well, whatever.

The RMAH is a travesty. Do I need to say more? Such things should be legally punishable. This is absurdity to its highest level. And its all the more a sin when the entire game is designed with it in mind. Thats all they care about, to feed the RMAH.

The itemization is absolute crap. The entire process that I go through to find new items, could actually be a stat system. A dumb, straight-forward stat system but at least, it wouldn't ruin my items. Thats exactly what items are, right now. You look for main stats and thats it. The game should have been designed with main stats in mind, you put points where you want to yourself, and that would replace the over-abondant stats on the items. Then, items could be interesting by having GENUINLY INTERESTING EFFECTS to look for, with various options that makes me compare items as a whole and not just "this item has bigger numbers than the other".

I shouldn't even start talking about legendaries, how they could not even see how bad they were, and how if 99% of the people finding legendaries are DISAPOINTED from their drop.... oh guess what... THATS NOT FUN. *facepalm*

4 years old trailer showcase more features than the game has 4 years later. With that kind of development time with an engine that was already finished, with the kind of budget Blizzard can have and the amazing opportunities they have, here is the simple truth: Almost nobody has been working full time on this game for a long time, budget was ridiculously restricted... anything along those lines. The product lost features, focuses on the same things a thousand times, cut things up... in the end, they did almost nothing in those 4 years. I don't know exactly which of the above happened. I just know they wasted a HECK of a lot.

Which brings me to their philosophy of "over-testing" everything. In the end, everything "cool" and fun and special that could be added was cut, because they could not CONTROL it quite right. Thats all it really is. They want the experience to be pre-determined to a very strict level. Thats why this game literally has nothing new or special. In the end, they cut everything interesting. Thats now how you make fun and deep games. They thought the same about SC2. Oh god, what an interesting meta game did it have since its release! LOL! Fortunately their expansions looks a bit more DARING.

Thats right, daring. Diablo 3 dared NOTHING. Except a money-making RMAH of course. Now thats how you dare! Except, you're going the wrong way!



I could go on and on about how I disagree with everything Blizzard does. Their philosophies are ridiculous. I can't even things I agree with. Nothing they say or do make sense. They're close minded, limited. They don't deserve to be in the position they are. Of course, the one key Blizzard philosophy I hate is the truth: They're only in for the money. When art is art for its own survival and it succeeds, it becomes a business. When its a business, its no longer an art. Diablo 3 is not a work of art. Its just a corporate joke designed to suck the money out of people with an uninteresting, non-innovativate game that cost little to produce.

I have to applaud their business skills, at least. They do know how to make money. Now, I probably forgot to talk about a bunch of other design philosophies I disagree with, but... I think thats enough for now to make my point.

And yes, I will stand here and say, with extreme arrogance, that I would make a better developer job at Blizzard than they did. Of course, maybe not, if Activision was the one killing the game from behind. But nobody would admit THAT.


TL;DR list:

-Bad end-game, no originality in it, no thought, no true challenge
-Limited hotkey system
-No alternate hotkey options (especiially for pure mouse users)
-Elective mode is the dumbest addition to the game.
-The story is a joke
-No alternative control (WASD)
-Always online
-No mods, the heart of PC gaming
-Lack of options, Blizzard openly stands -against- having too many options
-Cannot dodge normal melee attacks "by design"
-Auction house is the focus of the game, which has a lot of bad side effects.
-Grinding-based gameplay (yes, I do blame D2 for that, even more in fact)
-RMAH
-Horrible itemization
-Unsatisfying legendaries
-Simple stat system could ALMOST COMPLETELY replace the current itemization
-Game had more interesting features 4 years ago than now
-Over-testing, streamlining, controlling the game too much = bad.
-Diablo 3 dares "nothing", except the RMAH that is.

Got my refund on the the digital purchase of D3. The customer service was actually very nice and it's a +1 to them. Haven't played D3 in a week now, didn't even want to log on really since then. Unfortunately they ruined Diablo franchise for ME RIP
Btw, I had 65 hours clocked in on my barb, inferno and it was no problem. Just be really nice to them, that's all. I made my purchase on May 12th, so you still can get a refund guys.

Those that are still enjoying the game, more power to you! And now back to DayZ

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They told you something as an official source, it turned out to be false and inaccurate. At the end of the day they still lied, regardless of why they did (misinformation). Does not the change the fact that it was, it was corrected however, but regardless the act still stands in the history of CM's as a lie.

It's their job to get the shit straight, they failed to do it. Oh well? Throwing out a ban over an apple being called an apple is just idiotic. This is why I dont participate on blizz forums, it's full of trolls and bad blues. I get my info from this site and reddit It's near impossible to have a real discussion on blizz forums.

You're not missing out on anything from the blizzard forums, I promise you that.

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Noun:
1.
a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood.

trying to sound smart without knowing the definition of a word is the only idiotic thing i noticed.

^this.

Definition of FALSEHOOD



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: an untrue statement : lie

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: absence of truth or accuracy

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: the practice of lying : mendacity

Anyone with half a brain knows that a lie connotates some sort of malicious intent. I would not consider an inaccurate statement to automatically be a lie.

OP, get over it. It's not a big deal at all. They should ban more people from the forum. I can pretty much assume that you deserved the ban given the fact that you came to another forum to tell a bunch of people who don't give a shit about you that you were banned from Blizzard's forum.

Anyone with half a brain would ask if the evaluative meaning was intended, and at least try to give the Op the benefit of the doubt. It was poor word choice, but the definition of "lie" is debated to this day as it is. I don't think he was slandering CMs, and simply has a different idea of what a lie is. Maybe he thinks a lie is simply promulgating falsehood. That's one of the proponents of the argument over the meaning of the word lie. There's no need to ruthlessly attack someone on the basis of what could easily just be a misunderstanding.

History of the franchise has never been as an e-sport.

Desire for E-sports in D3 stems from comparison to WoW.

I fully respect the decision to keep D3 away from extremely competitive PvP, as to do so would sacrifice the integrity of the PvE game.

This doesn't mean there won't be a highly competitive scene for Diablo 3, as there was one for Diablo 2. However the balance in PvP will need to stem from community rules, not Blizzard's game balancing.

However, this makes competitive PvP less accessible to casual players who don't have the immediate desire, upon playing the game, to locate and navigate community forums for competitive PvP ladders/tournaments only to be defeated easily by the hardcore veterans occupying this competitive setting.

This means you really won't have a large community of viewers for competitive D3. No viewers means no corporate interest. No corporate interest means no budgeted events, cash prizes, sponsored tournaments or professional players. These are the components that potentially make up an E-sport.

In a way this is almost better for the majority of players interested in competitive D3, because it lowers the extreme competitiveness of it, allowing somewhat casual competitors to compose the most competitive participants. Your average Joe with a day job could be the best competitive D3 player. Furthermore, you and I wont be far off.

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Nothing in this information shows that Inferno will take a long time to beat. Only that numbers will be high...
Even if it takes 5 minutes to beat SK in Inferno, 5 minutes isn't exactly a long time out of 24 hours per a day

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Still going to be very surprised if no one have cleared Inferno after 2 weeks.

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thank you for having a brain sir. <3

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With this new "insane" information, I am DYING to see those cocky ignoramuses "1nf3r0 is EZ LOLZ! I am be4t EZ g4me for N00bZ in 2 Weeks Max! LOL dis G4me B 4 Babeeez!"

im right here broski. and i know its going to be hard, maybe even extremely difficult. doesnt mean it takes a lot of time considering how often people play (8+ hours a day)

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Blizzard employees did not/could not conquer inferno.

blizzard employees are notorious for being horrible at their own games, and even if they werent it doesnt make them automatically very good players. these same players who said they died in normal a few times.. lmao.

you sir take blizzard fanboydom to a whole new sad level

Gryzorz, is it just me or do you intentionally come off as a bitter person in many of your posts here

Also don't confuse pvp with esports. They are different concepts.