Quote fromThats right... lets make diablo like every other game out there because you could never handle the heat of PK.
The Diablo PvP system was never broken (before hacking, obviously hacking destroyed a good thing), so why fix it. Oh thats right, because while your saying the people who want to keep PK are crying.. its in fact the crying of people like you over multiple years of getting owned in game that forced Blizzards hand to change a good thing in the first place.
Gogo generic game pvp for the protection of weak players.
It's not about being "weak" or my ability to "handle the heat", it's about whether or not a style of play that is inherently divisive, inappropriate, and inconsiderate of others should be promoted in a game. I wouldn't be surprised if most anti-PK players could rush through a cookie cutter PvP build and handle themselves in PvP. The point is, they don't want to and shouldn't HAVE to just to be able to play the game that Blizzard has provided.
In the other thread, I was told that all my arguments were invalid because of two things. 1) People's fun being ruined is invalid because to remove the PK system would ruin the fun of PKers. 2) PK should be in the game because the removal of PK would necessitate a radical overhaul of the PvP system. Although I have gone over these points before, I will attempt to tackle them again, and hopefully these relevant sentences will be included in any quotes people take from this post.
For number one, PKing is designed to ruin the fun of other players. You may not do it just to ruin their fun or "grief" them, but that is the result. That is what it is designed to do. Having fun by causing others misery is not a constructive style of play to promote. So when you say my argument is invalid because the PKers fun would be ruined if it's removed, that's kind of my point. I am saying that the fun they are having is destructive and harmful to the community, and should not be promoted.
For number two, that is once again my pont. The PvP system NEEDS a radical change to allow players of all types to have fun playing on the realms. There are ways that PKers can still have fun, like the suggestion that many people have come forward with of seperate realms for PvP-enabled and non-PvP. Unless your style of play requires killing people who don't even want to fight back, this should be no problem. As for how it would "split the community", I disagree. There are plenty of people who don't play D2 on the realms or at least in public games because they dislike the PvP system. If a system like this were implemented, these people would all have places to play in public. Thus, while the community would be split, the net size of the comunity would be larger than it would be otherwise, mitigating the effect.
I don't really have high hopes for this post, since most of my posts in the last thread were either ignored completely or selectively quoted to cut out the relevant parts of my post. I tried to keep it a little more brief than my multi-pager last time, so who knows? Oh yeah, and I was wondering if I could request that everyone could keep the insults and personal attacks to a minimum? It's what got the other thread closed, so if you really care about this discussion, it's not a constructive way to proceed. I'm not trying to backseat moderate here, I just feel strongly about this topic and would hate to see this thread end like so many other PK threads: locked.
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Canadian? I like Canadians. I'm in the US.
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Meh, probably not in our lifetime.
"Burn the land, boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me!"
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EVERYONE on this forum misinterprets me. EVERYONE. I also know that it's more my concern than their's, and I assume when I post I will not be interpreted correctly because, as far as anyone concerned, as you said, I "seem to have every single fucking concept in the entire universe mixed up in that brain of yours". Oh, but you're somehow different, it's not YOUR problem, it's THEIR problem. You're special, aren't you? /sarcasm
You know what? It's nobody's problem. It's just how it is.
The world is rude? Only because of people like you. And if the world is rude why are you asking everyone to stop being bad to you? You seem to be opposing the rudeness just like everyone else who is responding on your rude comments.
And, in case you haven't realized it yet, rudeness is just that: vague, idiotic comments. Yours aren't any different. If people who comment on you sound stupid, well, guess what, that's how you sound. But it only matters if people are being rude to you, of course. /sarcasm
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When you post remarks of a certain kind you should be ready to take whatever stuff from others that comes with it... just as you take the positive stuff which I'm sure you also receive. I get a lot of "calm down", "stop being so serious" comments, personally.
Also, internet + sarcasm doesn't transfer over. I don't find you sarcastic. I find you rude, misogynistic, and narcissistic. Talking to you reinforced that rather than sarcasm. If you are being sarcastic, certain indications need to be present. If they are not present there's no reason to assume you're not just being plain rude and hiding behind sarcasm as a way to counter-attack people who criticize your rudeness. It seems that you don't care about anyone who misinterprets your posts therefore you can't complain.
Besides, overuse of sarcasm is not something I find worth defending. Most people who are being sarcastic to strangers at any given point are also being rude. You want to be protected while being rude to everyone? If you want to appear like the tough guy, or whatever it is, at least bother to take all the counter insults like one. You don't want anyone to be a baby about what you post but you're a baby about what they post about you (not just here, all over the place). Kind of contradictory.
But, hey, who am I kidding...
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And if you can't prove that then your argument that video game addiction is a bad thing is invalid. The way gaming addiction is bad is iff it's absence leads to something good, of which evidence I've seen none. The true problem is deeper and has nothing to do with video games. They're just displaying what's already there for everyone to see while previously it wasn't as prominent. Just like shooting people after playing DooM Isn't directly related to DooM, but, rather, to the state the people were put in originally.
Correlation does not mean causation...
Just nobody up there wants to remedy the REAL problem. Blame it on WoW or on a person being a loser. Anyone can do that. It starts with public education and the crappy high schools you have spawned, politicians. It starts with your desire to label everything as bad the moment it's different from the "norm", creating loners; wtf is the norm anyway?
"Assent, and you're sane; demur, you're straightaway dangerous..."
/end of rant.
Sorry, I've just been read a lecture on gaming addiction in college class and all that crap and I'm still a bit mad.
I never got myself addicted to WoW. I tried, I failed.
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If you can copy-paste it there's probably a representation of it somewhere, like in a form of code or something... if I ever owned a Mac I could be more specific... google it or something.
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DII was based off D1. LOL
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And worst of all, people will buy this game. And they will realize they can limit the player in each and every way and still get their money back.