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The other video demonstrates his almost 7 minute fight with the Skeleton King.

All this video does is show it to be a complete waste of time for MP10 in normal. He took 7 minutes for 1 yellow and a blue? You can do that in any mode.

The point of playing in MP10 normal (or any other lower difficulty) is not for efficency, it's for challenge. You will get more efficient leveling using a fairly low MP as you can still kill quickly and get 20% XP gain per MP level. I imagine MP 2 or 3 might be the most efficent for someone just running through with no twink gear. This could be increased if you have some gear on reserve for that character.

As for item finding, unless you're in act 3/4 in Hell or in Inferno, I don't see many people careing or using MP for item hunting. Not unless you want to take a lvl 60 into MP10 and farm for low level legendaries for an alt or something.

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Wow, this is shocking.

How are people agreeing with a nerf more than not???

I think Blizzard finally succeeded in brainwashing people.

EDIT: Clearing up for clairty and after re-reading the original.

I think it's about being reasonable. You can't just buff everything, if you do, there'd be nothing left and everything would be trivial. I think people are finally starting to realize you sometimes have to bring things down in order to maintain balance. Otherwise they'd then have to buff the monsters all over again and we'd start seeing ridiculous numbers and values all becuase no one wanted to see the word "nerf".

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MP10 in normal is to level faster, imo very usefull if you want to start a new char.

Not entirely true. MP10 appears to be for challenge more than anything else. There's even a thread here in Diablofans that shows it's not efficient even though you have higher levels for the content that you're at. If you were to twink out a character, then maybe it could be efficient.

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Is there any change in the drop or items in Normal, NM and Hell using MP?

I know that with MP1+ in Inferno all items will have ilvl63 affixes, but is there any change like this for items from Normal, NM and Hell??

Thanks

I can't say I noticed any real difference between what drops in lower difficulties when Monster Power is active. It didn't look all that different. The only noticable thing that did happen was Diablo in MP10 Hell mode dropped a iLvL 62 1h Crossbow for me and I could have sworn that Hell only dropped iLvL 61 at most. I could just be remembering incorrectly on that one.

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HP increase from base is deceiving. Show the HP increase from MP1 would give a much better picture on how the bosses scale, since anyone who is good enough to ever touch mosnter power in inferno doesn't care about how strong stuff are relative to act 1/2 MP0 monster strengths.

I think the "jump" to 63 is inferno-only, everywhere else is just the "normal" scaling like what you see in Act 3 inferno, so even if you beat hell at MP10 it still doesn't mean you're strong enough for act 1 inferno MP1 or even MP0.

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Quote from t0luene

wow the info video was so good. No annoying music, good quality thorough explaination.
+1

Thank you.

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Btw can anyone download the full PTR Client?

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can anyone dowload ptr?

I'm pretty sure no one can. The blog is slightly misleading in this regard. Until the PTR data is turned on the PTR updater has nothing to fetch. It should be readily available when it goes live.

Quote from UberMey

Can someone explain what the change on Tornado proc means? I am a bit confused.

Will it spawn less Tornado? Will it spawn the same amount of Tornado but ticks will be less? Will it affect only LoH or will it affect hits and LoH?

Thanks for clarify

It will not spawn less tornados, it will change how often it procs "on hit" effects. This is similar to what happened to Critical Mass Wizards in the last patch. It means less Fury generation from Into the Fray as well as less life from "Life on Hit". It will make the spec harder to use, but it will not make it useles.

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They just devalued magic find on gear again. First time was with paragon levels. Second time is with this new change to later acts dropping more properties.

Why even have magic find on gear anymore?

I'm only paragon 19 but I have max magic find from my gear farming act 3. I gave up some HP and damage for it. Looks like I'll have to regear again. Most likely something they want and expecting people to do to use the RMAH so they get more money.

This is the point actually. They want to remove MF on gear and they want to do it in a way that's organic and doesn't punish players that already got a bunch of MF. You shouldn't see a change in your MF values untill you start hitting higher levels of Paragon, then you can just start swapping out MF gear for better survival/DPS gear.

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No wizards crying yet? (Like I am). The pretty large nerf to Prismatic Armor spells doom for my melee-build. Reduced armor and reduced AR. Nerfing the same spec two patches in a row is just sad (last patch, the WW got nerfed).
I guess it's time for me to realize that wizards are forced to go glasscannon until "BiS"-gear has been attained. Sad with sadness on top.
As it is now I can safely farm Act1 but as I read the notes, this will be useless with the coming patch - I'm also wondering what the "affixes scale with monster-power instead of ilvl"-change will do to the sales of Unindentified items. I mean, will there be a text on the items when unidentified? "Ilvl 63 BUT dropped from mlvl 61". I really don't understand this change.

I'll just hope that MoP can keep me entertained until HoTS comes out.

You have an overall buff. The damage of inferno is coming down and the nerf to your skills is such that you still will be taking less damage. Blizzard explained this (and the math involved) in the last Developer Blog.

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Affixes on items will now roll their level based on the level of the monster killed (rather than the item’s level)

A simple question: Do you know which monsters are lvl 63? Which elites from which acts can actually drop a decent loot now? Because I'm kinda sure that Act1 for example has only 1 type lvl 63 monster. And Act3? How many monsters are lvl 63? Which? I think this will make us do Act4 instead of Act3. The change regarding the quests and the resplended chests is for the same reason - quicker NV5 for the smallest act in the game. I might be very amazingly turbo mega wrong. If someone got a table with monster lvls for Inferno - please share. Because otherwise - We Be F*cked, my friends.

This might be one of the most important changes to be found in the patch notes. It seems that Act 1 has Monster level 61, A2 has 61-62, A3 has 62-63 and A4 has only 63 (Source: www.diablofans.com/topic/45706-monsters-levels-by-actdifficulty/ [can't post links yet...], which in turn quotes the brady game guide as a source).
Yet, if that were true it would mean that the most powerful items can, again, only be found in A3 and A4 which strikes me as odd, seeing as Blizzard had done the adjustment in item levels dropped in 1.03 (?) to allow all inferno players to find the best items, regardless of the act they chose...

On a related note:
Items below iLevel 58 no longer drop in Inferno difficulty

Does this mean that they'll just turn all the previously found 51-57 crap into level 58 items or do they properly scale it up, also increasing the chances of 61-63 to drop?

They may be thinking of it this way... The loot was updated to help people get further in inferno. They have since nerfed infero a couple times so now maybe they think the higher level items aren't needed in lower acts anymore. That would be my guess, but I'm not sure. I was trying to wrap my head around this monster level instead of item level thing and really just wasn't sure what to make of it.

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Anybody know how Monster Power is going to work in multiplayer and public games? Are you going to have to select monster power in public games as well? Hardcore public games are pretty empty already... will be 10 times more empty if they chop up the HC group into 10 different monster power groups :-S.

My guess is the Host or "Party Leader" would be the one to pick what the Monster Power level is. This does bring up an interesting point, I would imagine it would match you to someone using the same Monster Power as you put onto your own quest selection which could fragment the existing public games queue.

My guess is this has a lot to do with the CC changes comming down the pipe. We already heard they are going to remove the CC reduction for inferno (on the first hit anyway) and have the CC resistance stack with each new CC. I imagine this means that some of the existing CC numbers and timers are going to come down.

When we see the datamine changes we'll see things like "stun duration reduced from 10 seconds to 8 seconds" and think "NERF!" but the reality is that in inferno we only get a 6 second stun in the current game due to CC reduction. With the changes, we'll actually be GAINING another 2 seconds to the stun, but the tooltip change and datamined information will not make us realize that's what's happening.

I'm fairly certain this won't have much to do with Damage at all.

I LOL'd.. then thought this might actually make an interesting product. HAHAHA. Awesome job

Honest this GF/MF change makes perfect sense since that's the way it was in D2. It might not have been averaged, but it was "Shared" in the sense that everyone had a chance to grab the gear that dropped. Now you don't have to worry about someone stealing that uber rare you found and you can still share your MF with a group. This also gives people who geared out for survival a reason to group up if they were angry at having to "carry" a MF player. Not only that, but because more people = more loot per monster, if your group is friendly they may give you something they found.

Granted if you're grouping with randoms, that might be kind of rare, but you could always ask for any class loot if some drops and see what they say, right? Never hurts to be friendly.

So that impact stun chance knocked down from 100% should settle any worries about stunlocking mobs like the Skeleton King, eh?

Oh yeah, the shear size of it means that some kind of error is going to sneak in. Awesome work. *salute*

Oh and of course, I have to say it again, thanks for all your hard work getting this information

There's a few typos here and there, but that's hardly anything to complain about, especially with how much information is here.

Molster, I just happend to notice the changes to Rain of Vengeance (Demon Hunter) isn't listed, it only has some asterisks there. I think that one had a massive change to it, going from over 700% WD down to 91% per second. In the end I think the 700% was over a period of time so it ended up being about 115% WDPS.

I don't have the exact numbers in front of me, so I'm not sure.

Mein Gott, that is a ton of change notes.

It's nice to know what changes they've made to the other skills since they only put accessible ones in the official patch notes. Some abilities we used to be able to get have been changed as well, so that's nice to know. Thanks a ton for this information, I think I can make good use of it as I report on the other classes.

I think it looks more like Goro Vs Liu Kang, but hey.. Here you go.