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Same, I would've killed myself if i saw this. Though, now that i think about it, it might not be that bad

i think Rappelz has sexy female characters =) The female characters i saw in d3 were ugly

What would you do if you opened the gameplay trailer and it was a first-person shooter. You can run up to your enemies and slash them.

Quote from "TheBlueWanderer" »

What do you mean you 'made' those videos?

He meant that he took it from the original game-play video and made it slow-motion. Why do you take everything literally? Try to use some common sense. I hate people like you.

On the other hand, nice video =D

Lmao. anyone else recall seeing a bow and staff drop during the gameplay trailer?

Man, what's with these people correcting me with things that i have already been corrected with? To the poster above me, thanks for the reminder, but nothing you said was new.

As a counter-argument for those who keep saying
"Blizzard said the WD is not replacing the Necromancer"

The necromancer will NOT make an appearance in D3 as long as the witchdoctor stays
(THIS STATEMENT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH D3 EXPANSION.)

They've introduced 2 Classes

1. "Close-Combat-Physical Type" [Barbarian]

2. "Dark-Caster Type" [Witch-Doctor]

3. "Ranged-Combat-Physical Type"

4. "Elemental-Caster Type"

5. "Holy-Caster or Paladin Type"
"Assassin-Type"


So there we have it. Barbarian, Witchdoctor, Amazon, Sorceress, and #5. With the Witchdoctor acting as the dark-caster type, there is no room for another dark-caster [my beloved necromancer]. As for Amazon and Sorceress, there class names will probably change to fit the male/female function. I refused to call some classes a Warrior or Rogue Type because of the anti-wows in here.

According to this article
http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2008/07/02/diablo-iii-witch-doctor-vs-necromancer/

Producer Keith Lee gave several hints towards the replacement of the necromancer.

1) "What do you think about the Witch Doctor possibly replacing the Necromancer?"
2) "If you played “Diablo II,” does it really matter to you?"
3) "And I think that one of the things that might be hard is the fact that we might have to give up a few character classes that people loved in ‘Diablo I’ and Diablo ‘II.’"

Again, let me repeat, Diablo III Expansion MAY or MAY-NOT have the necromancer. What I am trying to say is, for Diablo III Classic, the Necromancer is gone.


Haha, that is unless they get rid of the Witch Doctor, then the necromancer will have his place.

EDIT: Btw, imma change my thread post so that people won't point out the same mistakes over and over again.

I apologize for misusing the term "Gay" in my thread. I never meant it in a homophobic sense, and I have been warned to change my post, which I eventually did.

Blizzard always shares ideas from other franchises, did you know that Witch-Doctor was also a unit used in WarCraft 3?
I've seen it and learned much about the WD. I am not alone here, a lot of people dislike the WD, THAT ALONE means they have not chosen wisely.

This is in regards to van's arguments.

Quote from "Sandman53" »

http://pc.ign.com/articles/885/885128p1.html

have fun, search for necro. Jay said it wasn't a replacement in either the 1st panel or the 3rd panel so you can look through those if you want to.

http://pc.ign.com/articles/885/885128p1.html

The witch doctor, on the other hand, seems to be more of a caster with a pet-control ability. Jay Wilson, a lead designer on Diablo III, said the witch doctor is not a replacement for Diablo II's necromancer. Witch doctors can cast a locust swarm that bounces between enemies, causing damage, or buffs the attack of any pets it's cast upon. He also gets a fire bomb ability, which appeared to be a limited range area of effect fire spell, and the more interesting wall of zombies attack. The latter sprouts a group of zombies out the ground and, while they don't appear to move, they do block enemies and swat at them with flailing arms.


Jackpot. Thanks a lot sandman53.

Magistrate, this seems to be the material you've been talking about. However, if this is the case, it may contradict to the thread about the 5 core classes being distinct.

If the WD has an undead tree, this WILL bleed into the necromancer's abilities.

If there really is a necromancer in D3, then there will only be 2 classes remaining. The sorceress and the amazon (considering i saw a short staff and short bow drop in the gameplay trailer).

This leaves out the paladin, assassin and the druid.

Quote from "vanguardxx2" »

I'm going to comment on the title of his thread alone.

"I don't like the witch-doctor."

All I hear is waah waah, my pussy's bleeding.

Why are people always against complaints about the game? was it a forum rule that we cannot complain about the new D3 we've been waiting for years? If it was a rule, half the forum would be banned for complaining about lighting, wow-related complains and etc.

If I don't like something, I'll speak up about it. People like you just live with your problems and nothing will ever change. If the whole world was filled with people like you, slavery, racism and sexism will never find its way to a solution.

The title of this thread was simple and straightforward.

I don't like the Witch-Doctor.

Quote from "Magistrate" »

Most of it's just empty mediocre flaming and spam, so it would probably be even better in the spam section, for all the facts it's offered.

you still haven't offered me the proof of blizzard "DIRECTLY" saying that the witchdoctor is not a replacement for the Necro.

Why do you guys like moving threads and closing them and such, why cant you just let us talk about what we care for.

This is exactly what i care for, as i mentioned in my analogy, what if they were ruining the barbarian?

Quote from "Magistrate" »

Your post contributed nothing factual to the argument at present.



They also said directly that the Witch Doctor is not replacing the Necromancer.

I am totally unaware of this. Care to shed some light?

yeah Russian, its sad. there are a lot of necromancer fans out there and its frustrating to know that he is going to be replaced by the WD.

Well as an analogy,

we can call the Barbarian a "Blood-Knight" and make his model a young skinny boy with the ability to throw shields around. Then change his character background and make him a blood-elf. (which is exactly what they did with the WD)

He'll still be fun, but it just wont be as cool as the barbarian.

Then people are just going to say "Oh his shield throwing spell makes sense. Get used to it the Blood-Knight owns."

Alright, to the guy who corrected me saying WD is not the necro replacement.

Heres my answer:

Blizzard said they wanted 5 distinct classes, putting the necro and the wd in the game wont work because the wd raises dead, uses undead walls, and is pretty much a necro with a fireblast. If they do that, we'll have 2 necros, 1 good one and 1 uncool one (wd).

THEREFORE!!!

its quite obvious, WD is the new necro replacement. i also see a bit of Druid in the WD

i guess some of you are right, blizzard is prolly going to make a syk hero out of the witch doctor since hes our new necromancer. (i just hope he has stronger spells)

But i wish the necromancer would be like the barbarian, remade with new spells and abilities.

As the thread-starter i didnt say anything about the WD being "wowish"

Anything that are not in quotes remain from the original post.

It was a disappointment that there are only five classes in D3. I think the witch-doctor is a bad replacement for the undead-caster. Most importantly, he is a waste of one of the five precious classes.
Why?

EDIT: Commonly argued: "There were only five classes in D2 - LIVE WITH IT."
My reply: I am fine with 5 classes, what I'm not fine with is the witch-doctor occupying one of the five classes.

Primary reason:
He looks so weird and ugly.

EDIT: He looks weird and ugly with or without gear. Some argue that the necromancer was ugly also, but many would disagree. Some also say whats ugly or not is up to perspective.
In the game-play trailer, "There's nothing better than smashing enemies with your friends, and its about time we brought one in. This is the Witch-Doctor, a completely new class in Diablo 3." When I first saw this guy come out of the portal, he looked very uncool and weird. If the necromancer popped out of the portal, I'm sure the results would've been better. However I'm sure people will get used to his ugliness, I just prefer the necromancer's looks.

His class name even sounds weird. it doesn't sound dark at all! I would much prefer the warlock, shaman, and best of all, the necromancer.

EDIT: Commonly argued: "Who said the witch-doctor was supposed to be dark?!"
My reply: How is he not dark when he can summon a zombie wall? Explode his own pets? Use locust swarms to devour his opponents? Cast a firebomb with an evil spirit? Horrify his opponents?

EDIT: Commonly argued: "The Warlock and Shaman are not even relevant classes!"
My reply: The warlock, shaman and necromancer are not relevant classes but they sound a lot less weird than "Witch-Doctor" - this was the point I was trying to make.

I am not a hardcore fan of the necromancer, but if you are going to replace such a meaningful class, please choose wisely.

EDIT: Commonly argued: "Blizzard said specifically that the WD is not replacing the necromancer"
My reply: True, I never knew this, but now I do, and I still believe the necromancer will not be in D3.

The necromancer will NOT make an appearance in D3 as long as the witchdoctor stays
(THIS STATEMENT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH D3 EXPANSION.)

They've introduced 2 Classes

1. "Close-Combat-Physical Type" [Barbarian]
2. "Dark-Caster Type" [Witch-Doctor]
3. "Ranged-Combat-Physical Type"
4. "Elemental-Caster Type"
5. "Holy-Caster or Paladin Type"
"Assassin-Type"

So there we have it. Barbarian, Witchdoctor, Amazon, Sorceress, and #5. With the Witchdoctor acting as the dark-caster type, there is no room for another dark-caster [my beloved necromancer]. As for Amazon and Sorceress, there class names will probably change to fit the male/female function. I refused to call some classes a Warrior or Rogue Type because of the anti-wows in here.

According to this article
http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2008/...s-necromancer/

Producer Keith Lee gave several hints towards the replacement of the necromancer.

1) "What do you think about the Witch Doctor possibly replacing the Necromancer?"
2) "If you played “Diablo II,” does it really matter to you?"
3) "And I think that one of the things that might be hard is the fact that we might have to give up a few character classes that people loved in ‘Diablo I’ and Diablo ‘II.’"

Again, let me repeat, Diablo III Expansion MAY or MAY-NOT have the necromancer. What I am trying to say is, for Diablo III Classic, the Necromancer is gone.

Haha, that is unless they get rid of the Witch Doctor, then the necromancer will have his place.

Why does the witch doctor have a firebomb spell? THIS DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. Fire should remain unique to the sorceress (unless you have elemental traps like the assassin in d2).
But a plain firebomb spell?

EDIT: Commonly argued: "It's Firebomb not fireball."
My reply: Fixed

EDIT: Commonly argued: "Other classes like druids and assassins have fire spells too."
My reply: Druids use fire as a form of nature like the firestorm and armageddon spell. Assassins as I have mentioned in my original post are an exception because its a bomb.

EDIT: Commonly argued: "He is actually throwing a skull that blows up and you can see a burning soul released on impact."
My reply: Understood.

I like the undead wall. The mongrels, locust swarm, horrify and other spells are pretty uncool.

EDIT: Commonly argued: "Locust swarm is just like rabies from the druid!"
My reply: I don't really like the whole idea of fusing the druid with the necromancer to create the Witch-Doctor.

EDIT: Commonly argued: "Horrify is just like terror from the necromancer curse tree."
My reply: This is more evidence of the necromancer being replaced by the Witch-Doctor

EDIT: I also like the pet detonation spell (Do not correct me with the name)

Just my thought. I have to admit, the WD Looks pretty ugly. His spells seem all over the place.

The barbarian totally overshadowed the WD in the gameplay trailer.