Quote from Doez
Stop and breathe for a second, then realize that people's good memories of D2 included the expansion pack and the years to follow - not the initial launch of D2. D3 has been out for just over a month, with tons of room for growth in pvm, pvp, story, lore, etc. Just like D2 grew from it's launch, so will D3. If people can't be patient and decide to quit, good riddance.
there was this comment on The Old Republic from a poster that is a retort to your argument.
someone puts out let's say some old Ford and over the years add in new stuff and it becomes a mercedes SLR with all the bells and whistles.
then that same company comes out and say that they are putting out a new car that is supposed to be the next in line after the Mercedes SLR.
but when that car came out it does not have most of the features of the SLR, sits less people, always breaking down etc.
are people gonna be happy about it and go but it took decades before that old Ford became the SLR and wait decades for it to improve or would they pissed about it?
D3 is not supposed to be compared to vanilla unpatched D2, it should be compared to the current version of D2
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Most people nostalgic about d2 played it back recently, some (including me) are playing it right now... So.. If my memory fails that much, I'd have much more to worry than "Is d2 better than d3 ?"...
And yes, many of d2's best experience came with the expansion, but the base game was still good as hell, why do you think so much people bought the expansion pack when released? (can say for almost sure that I won't buy a d3 expansion pack if released...), plus, d2 base game not capped at each corner, not nerfed each time players finds interessting spots... Can't wait to see what will be said to defend d3 once an expansion comes... btw, could be fun to put down on paper a comparaison chart between d3 base game and d2 base game... So hardcore d3 defenders that are desesperated enough to blame human memory failure trying to convince themselves that nostalgic didn't play for 10 years would have to find a better excuse ton do so
When I started to dislike D3, I was thinking an expansion could save it if blizzard put a lot of efforts on it especially with levels designs and sizes, only 4 players per game... (but not only), but the more weeks pass, the more I feel it's not going at all in the right direction...
Anyway, I was enjoying d3 the first 2 weeks... Despite the big failures such as small maps, linearity, low-numbered mobs (compared to d2), etc... but the "nerf after nerf" approach from blizzard made it too much for me when added to what I was already hating in the game.
Maybe i'll be back on d3 at some point, but not until blizzard stop being dictators by trying to tell me how I love to play the game... If players love to play it a way they don't want (massive boss runs for example), just give them an offline mode or a capped version of the server application, and let them play the way they want... they are already private servers (far to be perfect yet, but they are here anyway) around, so the "piracy" excuse is void...
Making more than 1 realm per region could be a good idea too... And since D3 looks like "A solo game trying to look like an mmo" Why not doing 3 realms per region ? 1 as it's now, where blizzard crappify everything everytime some players do something they don't want... 1 where they don't do "World balancing", so no stupid nerfs, and 1 "sandbox" realm, where you'd have a "free" version of the AH with unlimited items, so you can test high-end gear and stuff (like you were able to do with d2 by Cheating in solo before gearing up online) ?
That's what i'd do if I was an huge company and if I care about players opinion... Plus, that way, I could watch how much players are in what realm, so I can have a better idea why players love the game ! (the only constructive arguments for D3 I've seen were negative... people who loves it just says "I play it becuz it'z a fkin good game !" most of time... with some times a "and it has better graphics"... so basically, most players can't say why they love it, but most not-anymore-players can give you at least 5-6 objective reasons about why they dislike the game... and no one sees there's a problem ?)
So, cya in d2... <old alzeimered man creepy voice>if my memory doesn't faaaaaaaaaaail befoohooore !
nb: Sorry about the off topic parts, but i'm trying to be objective and constructive... and sometime spread a bit from the base topic
Hope blizzard reads my suggestions, i'm sure they could help them a bit
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I think i'll give it another try a few weeks before an expansion comes out, which is the only thing that could save the game if you ask me... I intend to play 2-3 weeks before it comes out, to boost my bnet balance with RMAH, so I can have expansion without "really" paying it.