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Wow! Just don't get the attraction to the fresh start. This is the 10th season. How many times can you do the same thing over and over again? Seasons offer me nothing now that I have all the stash tabs.

well, I mean you could say the same about nonseason. How often can you do the same thing over and over again (GRifts with the same equip and build)?
What's special about a season start is that you have to deal with what you get. Creating a build is the most fun in these games, at least for me. Once I have this build completed, it stops being fun after a few runs. It's the same in other games like PoE. Leveling and seeing how your build slowly comes together is what's fun. Grinding the endgame maps over and over again is boring af.

This change to Primals brings nothing enticing to me whatsoever. If the endgame continues to be grinding bad Grifts then I don't see how a very low drop rate on an item that will grant very little more in terms of power is attractive.

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While I definitely want more, it seems like barely anyone is actually paying attention to the news, just because the opening ceremony didn't have what they wanted.

People asked for them to monetize Diablo so that they could hire a dev team to make content - they're doing that.

But wah it's not an expansion - that's because you already got the expansion (well bits of it) for free and are continuing to get more bits.

"But the problem is not the new stuff we are getting, it's that old things won't change! It's just 1 class 2 maps!!"

Are people not reading the news at all? Inventory manager, great. Crafting manager AT LAST. GR adjustments (hey Blizz fix neph rifts to have proper density and scaling health and not set achieves on portalling to a turn in first...) and Challenge Rifts - where paragons ancients etc WONT DO ANYTHING which fixes the problem everyone has been complaining about.

Although then the problem will probably be that one class is better, or that it's not fair because fishing (and I really hate fishing) or.. something will become the new thing to cry about (mostly by people who laugh at game that died in 2013 they don't play, yet somehow they're still here posting.)

I think that late 2017 is WAY TOO SLOW for the necro to arrive to have much impact, but that they're dedicating to announcing content for all of 2017 and also talking about reworking sets once again (instead of only retrospectives) is way more positive a sign than anything we've had for almost a year now. Changes are trickling in. Moving to DLC means more classes and cosmetics can also come in later. It's a strategy they haven't done until now that people have been asking for. If it makes money, it gives them an incentive to make more. To adjust the balance even further (seriously fix the crappy class sets, pls.)

Do I think they could and should be doing more than they are? Yes. And WAY faster. But things are looking better than they were a week ago.

Sorry don't believe this. Your friend was botting and not owning up to it.

What a nice friendly post! Sounds like a fun clan. Not really looking to join as I play solo but if I was this would be the one. Useless post sorry but had to comment on the friendliness of it.

Honestly I'd be game for any mechanic that gets D3 out of the OP 6 pc set/Rift/Paragon grind it is currently mired in. New zones and Mobs also don't interest me much. History says if they add new maps or mobs, they will likely be on the "skip" list for GR progression.

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And, as talked to exhaustion, D3 core flaws with the infinite paragon and the level 120 ++ gems create an unending playing field, and a new player will never ever be able to compete with a paragon 3000 with all gems 100+. That is a Loss-Loss situation. No new blood in greater rift competition--->prOs leave (see Quin). But the new blood cannot compete due to paragon and gems.

That is why seasons exist. No one who buys the game today should reasonably expect to compete with players who have been playing 1000s of hours since launch in non-season, it's just not realistic. At least not to truly compete. That would be true without so many endless systems, since min-maxing items in other ARPGs is usually a long process that would yield dedicated players a numbers advantage (albeit smaller than with paragon and etc).

That's not to say that some of the design decisions and systems aren't flawed, just that they aren't the reason a new player can't compete in non-season. Without playing a TON and working really hard.

the Dev team is not in a no win situation. My personal opinion is that they are misguided. That's the only way I can understand Nev (love her, she really has a passion) answering "Rekt" to people asking for new content in the game, after giving NO NEW content at all.
They want WIN? Seriously, not that hard. A small as fuck act 6. Insert the Necro with stitches in there. Put in some class, skills and sets balance (like it was given for free in 2.4) , and you have yourself 3.0. All is shiny as fuck for another couple of years.

They absolutely are in a no-win situation, because they don't make the final decisions. The develop within constraints given to them by people who care about money, and many of the fan base don't understand the fundamental difference between working for Blizzard and working for Crate or GGG.

With small studios with a single title, there is a lot less bureaucracy involved in decisions. The team makes a decision, and they go with it. They only answer to stake holders who funded the game, which agreed to a specific business model and plan when they signed up. Blizzard and Activision dictate whether something jivs with them or not. They push for approachable as a core design philosophy because that sells more games.

D3 is also multi-platform (both with OS on PC and because of consoles) as well as mutlinational, so every single interface change requires updating for all of that and making sure things are worded for all supported languages. All of this combined means that things move much much slower for these guys and it's out of their control.

It's similar with communication. They have to clear it with a bunch of people to just tell the playerbase anything.
The Necro pack is an experiment in trying to monetize the game, which will be needed to get more resources to develop more content. If players want to show support for the game, buying it is going to be the best bet.

None of this is to say they shouldn't do better, it's just that in order for things to get better, players have to understand the reality of the game. If the devs start trying to communicate more (dev blogs, AMAs on reddit, whatever) and the playerbase reacts negatively to it because it's not exactly what they wanted or they aren't giving specific answers (because they have to be careful of what they disclose), they are just going to not do that anymore because it's not beneficial to them.

If we want to help give them a win scenario, we as a playerbase have to meet them halfway. We can be critical of them, but it has to be with some level of tact.

I imagine the sun rising is an indicator to some folks that something big is coming at Blizzcon.

Just how many times can someone create one of 6 classes, to get a new portrait and a pet?

Yawn.

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But that would likely require a major change in monster mechanics, game play, CC abilities, healing, etc. Essentially, the game would have to become more MMO like.

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I agree with the whole idea of 'the higher the difficulty, the better the loot'.
Would be so nice to grind it out, starting at normal, going all the way to whatever they might call it in D4