Thats really cool but....didn't you at one time say that it is unclear as to who the summoner was?
Not me personally, I have stated who the characters from d1 became in D2 for many months if not years.
I always felt that he was a wanderer because they didn't want to specify, if they specify it as the warrior who actually killed diablo it would contradict the ending to diablo if you chose another class other than the warrior.
Yes it does, but in the interest of carrying on the story, it can only be one of them, as the wanderer appeared so prominently in the sequel. And as he was a white male, he must have been to only white male character from the previous game who had a video of him shoving the stone in his head, thus he is the warrior.
It's contradictory, but that's how things go.
I though this out a little because of the summoner thing, i remember a long discussion among these forums about who the summoner was and speculations on who he is.
Possible, but since Blizzard told us, throughout the sequel what happened to the previous characters, we know who he is. You might have issues with that, if you do I don't blame you, 3 different videos of 3 different people doing the same thing, yet only one of them can truly have done it. But Blizzard wrote the story and they can write it however they want. Or Rewrite as is often the case as well.
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Yes he is, I assume that Fiacla-Gear is a firstborn as well since he was a close relative to Bul-Kathos. As to why he was left out by Knaak in the Sin War is imo suspicious as for the future of Druids in the Diablo Universe.
It is stated that it is unclear as to whether Fiacla-Gear was the brother of Bul-Kathos, or just his most trusted friend. If he is his brother then he too would be first born beyond question, if he is a friend then it is prehaps unclear as to the exact date he struck up the friendship with Bul Kathos. It could have been after Bul Kathos united the 12 barbarian tribes and became their king. But It could have just as easily been beofre that date.
As the description of Fiacla-Gear is vague, prehaps that is why Knaak left him out. And instead concertration more on the one of the two there is more information on supplied to him by Blizzard. But as he rewrote portions of the lore anyway I do not see why he couldn't have included the "father" of the druids if he wanted to.
But maybe it is because Blizzard never confirmed Ficla-Gear's linage to Bul Kathos that Knaak left him out.
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That's weird, the last time I checked there was only one female in the Angiris Council, Auriel.
Could have sworn there was another one, been a while.
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Various NPCs dialogs tell you that, Charsi says Blood Raven fought the evil under tristram.
And Drognan/Jehren say the summoner was a Vizjerei mage who fought under Tristram.
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Yes. Several members of The Angelic Council are female.
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There already is an asian kind of part to Sanctuary
It was mentioned in the Sin War Trilogy breifly. When they went into some random city in Kehjistan (I can never remember the names) they saw people of all different colours that they had never seen before.
It mentions yellow people with slantly eyes from some part of Kehjistan that he had never seen before
Ill try and find the quote (from Scales of the Serpant)
The Hashiri were dressed very similar to the Torajians, save that many wore silver sashes around
their waists, and for the upper castes, nose rings of that very metal. There were other travelers as
well, including a few yellow-skinned merchants from east of Kehjan. With their narrow eyes and
unreadable expressions, they seemed almost feline. The Parthans among his group were especially
fascinated by them, not that the Torajians did not also express interest.
Hmm says there are from the East of Kehjan. Noesn't really list a name, or give that much detail at all. Didn't seem like there is much to the east of Kehjan. Or am I thinking of Kehjastan.
That's another question, is Kehjan the same as Kehjastan, or a place therein?
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That is something I think the diablo series does well, despite being so vague.
The classes have such amazing backstories and cultures but you never get to truly see them. I hope this changes in D3.
Question: Knaak mentions people in the sin war that look asian. Did he say which part of sanctuary they come from?
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Bartuc. The armor belonged to Bartuc, brother of Horazon. Bartuc, the Warlord of Blood.
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That is not necessarily true, there have been multiple times when I know more (a lot more) than my superiors. Even with stuff they use, and it's not just because they are old and new to computers, this is stuff we used at work day in day out.
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When the Horadrim and Tyrael at first managed to capture the three prime evils within the Soulstones, why didn't they simply destroy them at Hellforge right away? Admittedly the stones were supposed to hold them trapped within them for all eternity, but in Baals case it would seem that it would have been easier to just destroy it, rather then having poor Tal Rasha be tortured by him for all eternity. I can think of some few reasons for why Tyrael wouldn't be too eager to destroy them, perhaps he didn't see it necessary or worth the cost, or did he back then perhaps not even know about that they could be destroyed at Hellforge? If I recall correctly the the civil war in Hell between the lesser evils would still have been raging at its fullest during this time, so maybe they didn't have access to the forge? The argument that it didn't seem to be needed is the one I'd go with if it wasn't for Tal Rasha again, I just have a hard time imagining Tyrael letting him sacrifice himself if he didn't see it as the only option.
When the Soulstones were initially used on the Prime Evils they were whole, and the Prime Evil inside could not escape, even if someone shoved the stone into their head. With the exception of Baal's. His was broken so Tal Rasha sacrificed himself to replace the broken piece. Or the soulstone would not be powerful enough to contain the Lord of Destruction for all eternity.
My Lore is a little rusty (a shame i know), but I forget if it is clear that Tyrael knew as much about the Soulstones as Izual did. Izual clearly knew a lot. Afterall it was he who told the Prime Evils about the nature of the soulstones.
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As I told you before, he thought he could in essence pull a Tal Rasha, and be strong enough to contain the beast, least someone else put the stone in their head and become Diablo.
If it is in his head, it can be in someone elses. Also if Diablo cannot possess the host in which the stone is placed, he cannot escape the stone.
Also no one told him about the Hellforge. Nor did he tell anyone he even had the stone.
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Andariel went back to the Burning Hells, so did Duriel. The Burning Hells, is not the Black Abyss, where the Prime Evils are currently residing. It it also where they were spawned (created out of the nothingness that is chaos.)
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The soulstone binds the Prime Evil. Once killed it returns to the soulstone, and can then be placed into another host. As evident by the Wanderer. The prior host was Albrecht.
Cain is no doubt refering to this fact. If you do not destroy the soulstone with Mephisto's essence inside, it is possible that the stone could become lodged in a new host's body. And Mephisto would once again walk the earth.
Destroying the soulstone at the hellforge will send his essence or spirit to the Black Abyss (coincidently where it was spawned) so it cannot return (until D3)
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Diablo was not strong enough to fully posess King Leoric. That is what is written into Diablo Lore.
He moved to Albrecht, someone with a much weaker mind, so it was easier for Diablo to possess Albrecht. The effects of the "half possession" and the loss of his son took it's toll on the King, he went mad. But It didn't end there. He was killed by his own men including Lachdanan. Yet the tale of Leoric does not end there either, he returned from the grave, to serve diablo for all eternity. And the knights who killed Leoric, were cursed as well.
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Currently there is no Hoplite/Spartan-esque male warrior type in Diablo. At least at this point in time.
Maybe in D3 we may see a something like what you describe, but we are getting ahead of ourselves, We are talking about the past (prior to d3) here. SO the answer is no. Not unless it's the Barbarian tribe, the Snake Tribe.
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Warriors of the Snake Tribe, who favor the spear and are known for their cold eyes and sibilant battle chants. Only seasoned warriors may apply to the spear the techniques of the Snake-a patient teacher that reminds us that all foes can be defeated in time. These are lessons learned from the many dangerous pit vipers that breed among the steppes surrounding Mount Arreat.
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Not me personally, I have stated who the characters from d1 became in D2 for many months if not years.
Yes it does, but in the interest of carrying on the story, it can only be one of them, as the wanderer appeared so prominently in the sequel. And as he was a white male, he must have been to only white male character from the previous game who had a video of him shoving the stone in his head, thus he is the warrior.
It's contradictory, but that's how things go.
Possible, but since Blizzard told us, throughout the sequel what happened to the previous characters, we know who he is. You might have issues with that, if you do I don't blame you, 3 different videos of 3 different people doing the same thing, yet only one of them can truly have done it. But Blizzard wrote the story and they can write it however they want. Or Rewrite as is often the case as well.
As the description of Fiacla-Gear is vague, prehaps that is why Knaak left him out. And instead concertration more on the one of the two there is more information on supplied to him by Blizzard. But as he rewrote portions of the lore anyway I do not see why he couldn't have included the "father" of the druids if he wanted to.
But maybe it is because Blizzard never confirmed Ficla-Gear's linage to Bul Kathos that Knaak left him out.
Could have sworn there was another one, been a while.
And Drognan/Jehren say the summoner was a Vizjerei mage who fought under Tristram.
Hmm says there are from the East of Kehjan. Noesn't really list a name, or give that much detail at all. Didn't seem like there is much to the east of Kehjan. Or am I thinking of Kehjastan.
That's another question, is Kehjan the same as Kehjastan, or a place therein?
The classes have such amazing backstories and cultures but you never get to truly see them. I hope this changes in D3.
Question: Knaak mentions people in the sin war that look asian. Did he say which part of sanctuary they come from?
When the Soulstones were initially used on the Prime Evils they were whole, and the Prime Evil inside could not escape, even if someone shoved the stone into their head. With the exception of Baal's. His was broken so Tal Rasha sacrificed himself to replace the broken piece. Or the soulstone would not be powerful enough to contain the Lord of Destruction for all eternity.
My Lore is a little rusty (a shame i know), but I forget if it is clear that Tyrael knew as much about the Soulstones as Izual did. Izual clearly knew a lot. Afterall it was he who told the Prime Evils about the nature of the soulstones.
If it is in his head, it can be in someone elses. Also if Diablo cannot possess the host in which the stone is placed, he cannot escape the stone.
Also no one told him about the Hellforge. Nor did he tell anyone he even had the stone.
Cain is no doubt refering to this fact. If you do not destroy the soulstone with Mephisto's essence inside, it is possible that the stone could become lodged in a new host's body. And Mephisto would once again walk the earth.
Destroying the soulstone at the hellforge will send his essence or spirit to the Black Abyss (coincidently where it was spawned) so it cannot return (until D3)
He moved to Albrecht, someone with a much weaker mind, so it was easier for Diablo to possess Albrecht. The effects of the "half possession" and the loss of his son took it's toll on the King, he went mad. But It didn't end there. He was killed by his own men including Lachdanan. Yet the tale of Leoric does not end there either, he returned from the grave, to serve diablo for all eternity. And the knights who killed Leoric, were cursed as well.
Maybe in D3 we may see a something like what you describe, but we are getting ahead of ourselves, We are talking about the past (prior to d3) here. SO the answer is no. Not unless it's the Barbarian tribe, the Snake Tribe.