Diablo 1 and 2 have blizzards stamp of aproval which means they said what did and did not go on. In 10 years people have grown up. The people who made those games famous are now in there 20-40s. We are tired of all the BS that you lil kids think up sitting in your moms basement so you automatically think you have a say so in a company you own no part of. Let them do there job and relax. I wouldn't be supprised if they just scrap the whole project since so many of their "FANS" are complaining so much. I would laugh my ass off if they did that caz then you would need yet another bucket to catch those tears you been crying. It is rather supprising how noone can think for themselves and have an opinion of there own anymore. D3 looks nothing like WoW at all. Please show me one non photoshop'd screen of in-game that makes D3 look anything like WoW. You can't. Similarities do not mean it looks like WoW or WC3.
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Firstly, please tear down that wall o' text, 99% of the people on this forum won't even bother reading that. Damn. Secondly, L.O.L. at you letting my opinion hurt your feelings so much you feel the need to type all of that nonsense. We disagree, and that's okay; no need to vent your nerd rage here, (although it is rather amusing, to be honest.) Seriously dude, mellow out a little bit. I am still clueless as to why you people leap ignorantly to the defense of Blizzard, but hey, as long as it makes me chuckle, keep it up!
You OPINIONs have been splattered all over every D3 forums like Coldworms poison. I'm tired of reading all the QQing. It's sad to think that all those signatures are of people that are mindless little kids under the age of 19 and have no real life experience and mommy and daddy holding there hand through life. Join the army kid and see what QQing does in real life. This is what happens when an immature kid doesn't get there way and just follows mindlessly after the person in front of them. When you hit about 22 you will realise what I'm saying.
Firstly, please tear down that wall o' text, 99% of the people on this forum won't even bother reading that. Damn. Secondly, L.O.L. at you letting my opinion hurt your feelings so much you feel the need to type all of that nonsense. We disagree, and that's okay; no need to vent your nerd rage here, (although it is rather amusing, to be honest.) Seriously dude, mellow out a little bit. I am still clueless as to why you people leap ignorantly to the defense of Blizzard, but hey, as long as it makes me chuckle, keep it up!
You OPINIONs have been splattered all over every D3 forums like Coldworms poison. I'm tired of reading all the QQing. It's sad to think that all those signatures are of people that are mindless little kids under the age of 19 and have no real life experience and mommy and daddy holding there hand through life. Join the army kid and see what QQing does in real life. This is what happens when an immature kid doesn't get there way and just follows mindlessly after the person in front of them. When you hit about 22 you will realise what I'm saying.
Will people just quit the WoW graphics whining already. Its only in your head because there is a bunch of us around that are in denial to see what is so WoW about the D3 graphics.
There ya go. Quote fixed.
If you have yet to see the connection MANY people have drawn between D3 and WoW then you're actively trying not to. There's countless sigs like mine, countless "before/after" screenshots, and dozens of people who have explained it. From over sized shoulder pads to the goth sculpture over to the light issues; and this ex-employee statement, in my mind, even furthers it.
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It's such a shame that Blizzard North didn't get to finish their series.
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We would all have been better off if they had finished their work before Blizzard North was shut down and the project went into the hands of WoW-heads.
Agreed x2. I honestly believe we're going to see a noticeable difference in the production and play of D3 then we have in the past games. Now I know to that people would say "Of course... it's a sequel and a different game". But I don't mean it like that. I mean in more of the feel of the game and the flow of it and everything else that goes into the Diablo series that we love. And a difference in the D3 we imagined for 10 years and the D3 we're going to get.
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Long, long time Diablo fan; short, short time with DiabloFans. USEast D2 Ladder/1.13 Beta: Accnt = ChezPizmo USEast WCIII Ladder: Accnt = TeeheeSprinkles A cool, unrelated video; "Dude Bids 420 on Price is Right" ("420, Bob") "I'm nasty, I'm old and a little bit ornery; I look like Patrick Stewart and sound like Sean Connery." Patch 1.13 = (click here)
Barbarian is the most OP? Maybe, but after the 1.10 patch (enigma introduced) paladins were by far the most Overpowered. No debate. For proof just look at how many more HR's a pally torch is worth than a barb torch.
Diablo 1 and 2 have blizzards stamp of aproval which means they said what did and did not go on. In 10 years people have grown up. The people who made those games famous are now in there 20-40s. We are tired of all the BS that you lil kids think up sitting in your moms basement so you automatically think you have a say so in a company you own no part of. Let them do there job and relax. I wouldn't be supprised if they just scrap the whole project since so many of their "FANS" are complaining so much. I would laugh my ass off if they did that caz then you would need yet another bucket to catch those tears you been crying. It is rather supprising how noone can think for themselves and have an opinion of there own anymore. D3 looks nothing like WoW at all. Please show me one non photoshop'd screen of in-game that makes D3 look anything like WoW. You can't. Similarities do not mean it looks like WoW or WC3.
What the Hell are you talking about? The dude said 'Blizzard north can blow me' and cited Hellgate: London as an example to why a group of company workers can orally please him. As if Hellgate is all Blizzard North has produced. That's why I quoted back and mentioned Diablo I/II because, ya know, Blizzard North is the reason any of us give a shit about all this.
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I love how all of a sudden Blizzard North/Flagship Studios can go f**k themselves....
Eh... I guess D1 and D2 were strictly Blizzard games, right? Absolutely no Blizzard North involvement as such... They just were kind enough to lend their logo for the cinematic at the beginning of aforementioned games:)
Guys, be fanboys, worship Blizzard - nothing wrong with that. But don't shit on Blizzard North - the franchise exists thanks to them.
Well , i have loads of respect for Blizzard, but I still think that for this franchise they need Blizzard North as much as Blizzard North needs Blizzard to do good...
Back to the blog post - quite a read, I would say. I do get a slight vibe of dissapointment from Mike Huang...but he managed to be tactful - and I'm sure that he awaits the final product as vigoriously as all people here.
LOL Blizzard doesn't need Blizzard North and you will see this when the game is released. This franchise is possible only because of Blizzard as they handed out the cash do not forget that. Blizzard North failed misserably without the money backing or are you to blind to see this? Blizzard made these guys what they were and when they left they ate all there crying when WoW raked in all the doe that they didn't get any part of. Must suck to know what could have been if they just kept their mouths shut about what they thought they knew.
Money fund games - don't specifically make them though. People, on the other hand, do... So basically either some of the good ideas were magically attached to the money from Blizzard, or Blizzard North is in fact responsible for some of the goodness of diablo and diablo 2.
I am sure you understand the difference between funding something and making it:)
I don't need to wait for this game to be released to see that some of the choices that Blizzard made don't suit me - so no, I'm sorry but I just might not see what you want me to see.
I'm sure you understand that was 10 years ago. Let me say this then. Blizzard North was notyhing more than a 1 hit wonder. We all get lucky or have you forgotten. BTW y is everyong saying a gothic looking gargoyal should be in Cain's Sanctuary? After all he has been through don't you think he would want a peaceful scenery? I do not understand what all you people are smoking but you really need to focus here and think.
not happy? go make an action rpg that is "true" to d1 and 2
the "47,000" sigs are from people w/o any inkling of a clue on what it takes to produce and program a game
also 47,000 vs 10,000,000 ?
this isn't Sparta, you will all most assuredly lose
As a matter of fact, I DO know what it takes to make a video game - as someone who is 2/3 way complete with a 3D Game Art and Design degree, I can tell you its not easy, it takes lots of work, patience and talent - but thats common sense - but you know what? I DID sign the petition, and I back up my signature. It would of taken no extra work for Blizz to make D3 more gothic if they would of gone that direction from the start, which is how I am assuming Blizz North had originally taken the project. Whoever it was that said Huang sounded tactuflly dissapointed is correct, I think all of the former D3 crew is looking at the current stuff and performing a mental /Wrists.
You say 47,000 vs 10,000,000 - vs 10 million what? Players that are afraid to voice their opinon? Casual gamers? New commers to the genera? Or mabey just those sad and pathetic souls who are satisfied with whatever developers throw their way.
I said earlier, no doubt whatever is released will be an excellent game, I mean come on, its Blizzard, but whether or not that game will be deserving of the Diablo namesake has yet to be determined.
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"We must all fear evil men, but there is an evil which we must fear most, and that is the indifferance of good men."
As a matter of fact, I DO know what it takes to make a video game - as someone who is 2/3 way complete with a 3D Game Art and Design degree, I can tell you its not easy, it takes lots of work, patience and talent - but thats common sense - but you know what? I DID sign the petition, and I back up my signature. It would of taken no extra work for Blizz to make D3 more gothic if they would of gone that direction from the start, which is how I am assuming Blizz North had originally taken the project. Whoever it was that said Huang sounded tactuflly dissapointed is correct, I think all of the former D3 crew is looking at the current stuff and performing a mental /Wrists.
You say 47,000 vs 10,000,000 - vs 10 million what? Players that are afraid to voice their opinon? Casual gamers? New commers to the genera? Or mabey just those sad and pathetic souls who are satisfied with whatever developers throw their way.
I said earlier, no doubt whatever is released will be an excellent game, I mean come on, its Blizzard, but whether or not that game will be deserving of the Diablo namesake has yet to be determined.
Then as someone who is familliar with game creation then you should know that in pre-beta form nothing is anywhere near crafted to look like the final cut. You just made yourself look like a complete liar. Nothing else you say matters.
Actually, two hits wonder - dont forget Diablo2;)
And well... that's actually TWO good games against one flop(HG:L) - so nope, sorry, that's not being lucky. But I am sure that you will prove me wrong...
About the gargoyle - good point, but I don't really know how do you know that it's Cain's Sancturay? Proff please?
And since you ask us to focus and think - do you really think that The Fallen should look lika a cute red lizard? AFAIK, they are deamons... sure, more mischievious, than anything else - but still deamons... like from Hell...is it cool to be cutesy in Hell?
What is Hell? What is a demon? Can't they take any form they choose? Not all demons are ugly or cute. Not all demons are able to be killed by a mortal blade. Who cares? It is a video game and nothing more. Stop bitching about it like you are going to change something is all I'm saying. The graphics do not make the game. Gameplay is fun then it will be successful. If the gameplay sucks it will flop. Nothing else matters. Play it or don't. They release trailers to build hype not to here people bitch. People that bitch are just hateing on the game which we have barely any info on. If this was said after they played the final cut I wouldn't say a word. And since you are in school for this by the time you get out then you can make whatever mod you need to make to change the graphics.
I am not worried about the gameplay - as you I belive that the "killing things and collecting loot while leveling up madly" will be smooth... but sorry, I can't overlook the artistic choice, I just can't - I am an artist and I pay attenton to this stuff. Blizzard won't turrn of the sun in this game and make it all dark - actually it is not needed... but a bigger difference between light and darkness would do this game good - wuldn't you agree? I mean - I know that this franchise evolved from "medieval, gothic" to "dark fantasy with gothic elements" - but the current dungeons (and that's tristram) are neither gothic, nor very dark at this point - just the "fantasy" element is there - and for a part of the diablo franchise it's not enough:)
And I still can't belive what happened to the Fallen...:/
So the world is instantly supposed to be dark as soon as Evil steps foot in our would?
Hell in Diablo franchise is quite well defined... So are deamons... and they are NOT cute - see my point?
Graphics don't make the game? no - but they are an important part of their STYLISTIC identity - style is what differentiates one hack'n'slash from another. Graphics don't make the game, but they help to identify what game are you playing.
They released info to build hype and get people's opinions - both positive and negative. You like it - I dont hate it but don't like it either - there, that's TWO opinions:)
How do you know that you like it if it's so little info? If you are allowed to have good impressions - other people are as allowed to have bad impressions. Sorry.
Well if they re-release Diablo 2 I'm definately not buying it. The game in a cathedral doesn't need to be dark. Outside there is a sun you know. Water mist when hit by sunlight does make a rainbow. That many lights should light up a room. The amount of gameplay we have seen is nowhere near enough to start a petition over. The armor is fine the way it is. Adding noise to it ruines the used of higher resolution. Adding dark clouds from some paintbrush palet looks like crap. The artist who designed in the game want there talents to be shown off and not hid away where noone can see it. I can keep naming off and have just as much credability as anyone else has that isn't a blizz rep.
not the world - read my words, I have specifically said that I don't expect them to turn off the sun in this game. But the dungeons under a gothic cathedra that has a history of hiding a Prime Evil could use a little more dark and gothic fell - yes:)
Terribly sorry fo a double post
Did you see something that I didn't? There were no dungeons in the trailer that I saw. Just a small part of the cathedral that cain was ambushed on. The rest was outside.
As far as I thought, the first part of the Gameplay trailer was in the dungeon "Tristram Cathedral"... I was under that influence at least.
That was the location that Cain resides and it's a holy place like a giant church. They over ran him there which is why the hero was sent there to rescue Cain by the Girl in the trailer.
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You OPINIONs have been splattered all over every D3 forums like Coldworms poison. I'm tired of reading all the QQing. It's sad to think that all those signatures are of people that are mindless little kids under the age of 19 and have no real life experience and mommy and daddy holding there hand through life. Join the army kid and see what QQing does in real life. This is what happens when an immature kid doesn't get there way and just follows mindlessly after the person in front of them. When you hit about 22 you will realise what I'm saying.
all those shoops show us is that a fag can apply 1 layer of grain
I for one hope they cell shade it so I never have to come across dumb asses like drake while playing
There ya go. Quote fixed.
If you have yet to see the connection MANY people have drawn between D3 and WoW then you're actively trying not to. There's countless sigs like mine, countless "before/after" screenshots, and dozens of people who have explained it. From over sized shoulder pads to the goth sculpture over to the light issues; and this ex-employee statement, in my mind, even furthers it.
Agreed x2. I honestly believe we're going to see a noticeable difference in the production and play of D3 then we have in the past games. Now I know to that people would say "Of course... it's a sequel and a different game". But I don't mean it like that. I mean in more of the feel of the game and the flow of it and everything else that goes into the Diablo series that we love. And a difference in the D3 we imagined for 10 years and the D3 we're going to get.
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"I'm nasty, I'm old and a little bit ornery; I look like Patrick Stewart and sound like Sean Connery."
Patch 1.13 = (click here)
What the Hell are you talking about? The dude said 'Blizzard north can blow me' and cited Hellgate: London as an example to why a group of company workers can orally please him. As if Hellgate is all Blizzard North has produced. That's why I quoted back and mentioned Diablo I/II because, ya know, Blizzard North is the reason any of us give a shit about all this.
USEast D2 Ladder/1.13 Beta: Accnt = ChezPizmo
USEast WCIII Ladder: Accnt = TeeheeSprinkles
"I'm nasty, I'm old and a little bit ornery; I look like Patrick Stewart and sound like Sean Connery."
Patch 1.13 = (click here)
not happy? go make an action rpg that is "true" to d1 and 2
the "47,000" sigs are from people w/o any inkling of a clue on what it takes to produce and program a game
also 47,000 vs 10,000,000 ?
this isn't Sparta, you will all most assuredly lose
LOL Blizzard doesn't need Blizzard North and you will see this when the game is released. This franchise is possible only because of Blizzard as they handed out the cash do not forget that. Blizzard North failed misserably without the money backing or are you to blind to see this? Blizzard made these guys what they were and when they left they ate all there crying when WoW raked in all the doe that they didn't get any part of. Must suck to know what could have been if they just kept their mouths shut about what they thought they knew.
I'm sure you understand that was 10 years ago. Let me say this then. Blizzard North was notyhing more than a 1 hit wonder. We all get lucky or have you forgotten. BTW y is everyong saying a gothic looking gargoyal should be in Cain's Sanctuary? After all he has been through don't you think he would want a peaceful scenery? I do not understand what all you people are smoking but you really need to focus here and think.
As a matter of fact, I DO know what it takes to make a video game - as someone who is 2/3 way complete with a 3D Game Art and Design degree, I can tell you its not easy, it takes lots of work, patience and talent - but thats common sense - but you know what? I DID sign the petition, and I back up my signature. It would of taken no extra work for Blizz to make D3 more gothic if they would of gone that direction from the start, which is how I am assuming Blizz North had originally taken the project. Whoever it was that said Huang sounded tactuflly dissapointed is correct, I think all of the former D3 crew is looking at the current stuff and performing a mental /Wrists.
You say 47,000 vs 10,000,000 - vs 10 million what? Players that are afraid to voice their opinon? Casual gamers? New commers to the genera? Or mabey just those sad and pathetic souls who are satisfied with whatever developers throw their way.
I said earlier, no doubt whatever is released will be an excellent game, I mean come on, its Blizzard, but whether or not that game will be deserving of the Diablo namesake has yet to be determined.
What is Hell? What is a demon? Can't they take any form they choose? Not all demons are ugly or cute. Not all demons are able to be killed by a mortal blade. Who cares? It is a video game and nothing more. Stop bitching about it like you are going to change something is all I'm saying. The graphics do not make the game. Gameplay is fun then it will be successful. If the gameplay sucks it will flop. Nothing else matters. Play it or don't. They release trailers to build hype not to here people bitch. People that bitch are just hateing on the game which we have barely any info on. If this was said after they played the final cut I wouldn't say a word. And since you are in school for this by the time you get out then you can make whatever mod you need to make to change the graphics.
So the world is instantly supposed to be dark as soon as Evil steps foot in our would?
Well if they re-release Diablo 2 I'm definately not buying it. The game in a cathedral doesn't need to be dark. Outside there is a sun you know. Water mist when hit by sunlight does make a rainbow. That many lights should light up a room. The amount of gameplay we have seen is nowhere near enough to start a petition over. The armor is fine the way it is. Adding noise to it ruines the used of higher resolution. Adding dark clouds from some paintbrush palet looks like crap. The artist who designed in the game want there talents to be shown off and not hid away where noone can see it. I can keep naming off and have just as much credability as anyone else has that isn't a blizz rep.
Did you see something that I didn't? There were no dungeons in the trailer that I saw. Just a small part of the cathedral that cain was ambushed on. The rest was outside.
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