I don't believe the choice is alienating anyone, at all. Almost no one that's posting in here has actually played the game. Something could be said for those who've watched gameplay videos, but even that isn't nearly the same. The same can be said for every occurrence of a thread of this nature. I felt that four was a poor choice before I played the game, but after doing so, I wholeheartedly agree with it, and for every reason Blizzard's vomited up under fan scrutiny.
I don't believe the choice is alienating anyone, at all. Almost no one that's posting in here has actually played the game. Something could be said for those who've watched gameplay videos, but even that isn't nearly the same. The same can be said for every occurrence of a thread of this nature. I felt that four was a poor choice beforeI played the game, but after doing so, I wholeheartedly agree with it, and for every reason Blizzard's vomited up under fan scrutiny.
That's the main thing other then the gameplay reason's blizzard provided us with iv'e been trying to say, Don't even try portraying a negative opinion upon something without playing it, either way, let's be civil, let's play some games together midnight when it's released.
I have to admit I'm a little hesitant of the 4 players also, I think everyone is a little, but I do feel like 8 was too much, at least in D2. 8 was fun, but there was no working together really. So I'll see when I finally get to play it how it is. I feel like 4 is a pretty good number. It may just be that I prefer playing with a smaller group of friends though. In any event, here's to more teamwork, a better sense of community, and an all around better time!
At first, I did think it was a bit odd for blizz to set the player cap at 4...I mean, didn't they want at least 5 people in a game so we could watch all 5 classes in action?
But after watching the gameplay videos, I think it is pretty clear that blizz made the right choice. It is very hard to discern what each player is doing with four players. 8 players would just be wayyy to much action and spells going on, it would be impossible to play. It would be like a baal run with a blizz sorc, a ice orb sorc, and a hurricane druid all crowded around the minions :D.
What I don't like is not the 4 player cap - it's that we'll be forced into it. With the technology available today it really makes no sense to limit what the player can do in this kind of way.
You say that it's the optimum limit - then make it the default limit set upon any new game created. There SHOULD still be an option to up that limit.
I don't know how anyone could argue against this point. It's completely and utterly ridiculous how some of you guys tow the party line. Reminds me republicans..
Your not forced into playing with 4 players, you can play by yourself, just with 1 friend, 2 friends, or even 3 friends and the decision to make 4 players the max is nothing to do with there technology, it's to do with gameplay
Not only is it the optimum limit, Blizzard rightfully don't want to give player's the option to play there game in a way that will make the experience less enjoyable ( And it also brings other issues to the table when there is 8 player games available)
I don't know how people could continue to argue against blizzard's obvious reasoning's. It's ridiculous how the 5% of you out there tow the "Anti-Blizzard (I wanna seem cool and unique)" line....
If you honestly don't like it, keep playing Diablo 2, glhf.
Christ, I could've predicted this reply almost line by line.
Saying that we have the option to play with 1,2 or 3 people as a counter-point to my argument is ridiculous. I'm obviously saying that the 4 player limit is too small.
I agree with pretty much everything Blizzard has put out thus far - this isn't one of those things because to me it's blindingly obvious that they have got it wrong.
Not everything they do is 100% correct. That is why they listen to fans. That is why debate should be encouraged. Actually, that is one of the main points of this forum that you post on.
And 'I wanna seem cool and unique'? To a bunch of people on a gaming forum that don't know me? Yeah, sure buddy.
What I don't like is not the 4 player cap - it's that we'll be forced into it. With the technology available today it really makes no sense to limit what the player can do in this kind of way.
You say that it's the optimum limit - then make it the default limit set upon any new game created. There SHOULD still be an option to up that limit.
I don't know how anyone could argue against this point. It's completely and utterly ridiculous how some of you guys tow the party line. Reminds me republicans..
Your not forced into playing with 4 players, you can play by yourself, just with 1 friend, 2 friends, or even 3 friends and the decision to make 4 players the max is nothing to do with there technology, it's to do with gameplay
Not only is it the optimum limit, Blizzard rightfully don't want to give player's the option to play there game in a way that will make the experience less enjoyable ( And it also brings other issues to the table when there is 8 player games available)
I don't know how people could continue to argue against blizzard's obvious reasoning's. It's ridiculous how the 5% of you out there tow the "Anti-Blizzard (I wanna seem cool and unique)" line....
If you honestly don't like it, keep playing Diablo 2, glhf.
Christ, I could've predicted this reply almost line by line.
Saying that we have the option to play with 1,2 or 3 people as a counter-point to my argument is ridiculous. I'm obviously saying that the 4 player limit is too small.
I agree with pretty much everything Blizzard has put out thus far - this isn't one of those things because to me it's blindingly obvious that they have got it wrong.
Not everything they do is 100% correct. That is why they listen to fans. That is why debate should be encouraged. Actually, that is one of the main points of this forum that you post on.
And 'I wanna seem cool and unique'? To a bunch of people on a gaming forum that don't know me? Yeah, sure buddy.
I don't have any complaint with the current Followers system. The Mercs back in D2 did not really serve a significant purpose to the game anyways unless you play as a Necro, then your summons and minions can all benefit from an aura buff. Otherwise the effect you get from Mercs playing as any of the other 6 classes was negligible.
The way I see it, the Followers in D3 is merely meant to be a companion to break up the loneliness and solitude of people playing the game in single player, hence why Followers cannot be used in multiplayer. From what I heard Blizzard also tries to incorporate the Followers as an integrated element that serves part of the story. I find that prospect to be quite interesting.
Christ, I could've predicted this reply almost line by line.
Saying that we have the option to play with 1,2 or 3 people as a counter-point to my argument is ridiculous. I'm obviously saying that the 4 player limit is too small.
I agree with pretty much everything Blizzard has put out thus far - this isn't one of those things because to me it's blindingly obvious that they have got it wrong.
Not everything they do is 100% correct. That is why they listen to fans. That is why debate should be encouraged. Actually, that is one of the main points of this forum that you post on.
And 'I wanna seem cool and unique'? To a bunch of people on a gaming forum that don't know me? Yeah, sure buddy.
Something in common, I could've predicted your 'same boring' reply exactly line by line..
Like everyone who had doubts about the 4 player cap, but actually have a played the Demo, like Magistrate said, you feel completely different towards 4 player cap, everything you pretty much said is meaningless because you havent played the game =/
And yes, I'll say this again... Blizzard are listening to there fans, when they talk to the people at blizzcon who played the Demo and they see how they react to the game ( I don't know how many people was crying because it was there 20 minutes was up) that pretty much sums it up. About all the people I know and have spoken to, that have had doubts about the 4 player cap but are COMPLETELY 100% turned around after actually playing the game also re-confirms to blizzard this is 100% the correct decision.
So before you say blizzard got the player cap 'blindly-wrong' please just go play the game, because your going to change your judgement on the player cap, this I 100% guarentee
This is a cool discussion, but I like the fact that no matter what people say, us who thinks the 4 player limit is the correct way to go are the winners in the end.
Nah, the people who think it should be 6 are always the victor
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Christ, I could've predicted this reply almost line by line.
Saying that we have the option to play with 1,2 or 3 people as a counter-point to my argument is ridiculous. I'm obviously saying that the 4 player limit is too small.
I agree with pretty much everything Blizzard has put out thus far - this isn't one of those things because to me it's blindingly obvious that they have got it wrong.
Not everything they do is 100% correct. That is why they listen to fans. That is why debate should be encouraged. Actually, that is one of the main points of this forum that you post on.
And 'I wanna seem cool and unique'? To a bunch of people on a gaming forum that don't know me? Yeah, sure buddy.
in fact I think id rather have 4 players with followers ( that are viable in hell)
than 8 players............ maybe, lemme think about that 0.0
I don't have any complaint with the current Followers system. The Mercs back in D2 did not really serve a significant purpose to the game anyways unless you play as a Necro, then your summons and minions can all benefit from an aura buff. Otherwise the effect you get from Mercs playing as any of the other 6 classes was negligible.
The way I see it, the Followers in D3 is merely meant to be a companion to break up the loneliness and solitude of people playing the game in single player, hence why Followers cannot be used in multiplayer. From what I heard Blizzard also tries to incorporate the Followers as an integrated element that serves part of the story. I find that prospect to be quite interesting.
Like everyone who had doubts about the 4 player cap, but actually have a played the Demo, like Magistrate said, you feel completely different towards 4 player cap, everything you pretty much said is meaningless because you havent played the game =/
And yes, I'll say this again... Blizzard are listening to there fans, when they talk to the people at blizzcon who played the Demo and they see how they react to the game ( I don't know how many people was crying because it was there 20 minutes was up) that pretty much sums it up. About all the people I know and have spoken to, that have had doubts about the 4 player cap but are COMPLETELY 100% turned around after actually playing the game also re-confirms to blizzard this is 100% the correct decision.
So before you say blizzard got the player cap 'blindly-wrong' please just go play the game, because your going to change your judgement on the player cap, this I 100% guarentee
Debate within reason
Nah, the people who think it should be 6 are always the victor