I have 5.2% life leech, and 200 life on hit btw. Doesn't sound like much, but with ~200+k crits (55.5% crit chance with passives and battle rage buff) I often get 3k-5.5k life returned on hits.
I wanted to quickly go back to this since 1.04 should allow for more dps output then before, either by finding new improved weapons being dropped and/or using more dps orientated fury spending skills that are being buffed. So I have three questions:
1) Does LOH benefit from Crit gear similarly to the way Life Leech does?
2) If I'm going DW, Frenzy will still be the best skill for taking elite mobs if you're trying to utilize LOH properly right?
3) Do you guys see yourself using Frenzy with any of the buffed fury spenders?
You can use WotB to escape crowd control effects and become immune to them, plus you'll destroy the pack before WotB expires most of the time if you use Slaughter rune. I grab up to 3 packs sometimes and giggle as they all explode the moment I touch them.
I tried the Slaughter rune, but noticed that elite mobs go down faster with Insanity.
I'm hoping I can pick something else instead of revenge like seismic slam or anything good and fun really, I find the visuals of seismic slam quite appealing, and the range adds some interesting elements. I find revenge very dull, the only reason I use it is because its so damn good and I do not enjoy the double whirlwind build at all, despite it actually being really easy to play with.. We'll see how it all looks in the end, items and buffs combined.
As for the actual question, the formula is something like
(d(m(xy)+(xyz))
Where d=attack speed, m=attack speed, x=base damage, y=1-crit chance, z=crit hit damage. d isn't going high, m is something you always want to focus on, x is obvious, so that leaves y and z as stats to focus on almost entirely. This formula has an error ratio of about 5-8%, but still works out pretty well and is much simpler than the much more complex version at showing exactly what each stat does.
A mixture of Attack speed, Crit, Primary stat, Crit hit damage, and base damage are what you need to reach as high of dps as possible. Ignoring gold and defensive stats, for a moment, these are all fully possible to obtain on any piece of gear they are all available on. (gloves: attack speed, Crit, Crit hit damage, Dex/int/str, Dex/int/str+secondary stat, for example).
Now then, for your post - Your offhand is pretty bad, hunt down a high +crit hit damage open socket LoH 600-700 dps weapon. Should be under 500k. All in all your gear is fine and I think it's pretty clear you know what you need to upgrade into. Honestly, focus on Act 1. Act 2 is a terrible act, Act 1 is better farm/time than even Act 3, until you reach a point where the kill difference between act 1 & 3 is more than ~1/2 the time(if it takes you 2 minutes to find, and kill a mob in act 3 - you need to do it in under 1 minute in act 1. However doing it in 1 minute in act 1 is far easier than doing it in 2 minutes in act 3, etc).
You obviously have upgrades, they're not hard to see - you're pumping the right stats, you just don't quite have the gear for A3. Farm A1 until ~40k dps, 800 all res, ~40k hp. At this point A3 should be very rewarding for you.
Also, if you take my advice and farm Act 1, Buy speed boots. Just like..+100 str, +12% movement speed.
mitigation + loh are key. then need enough crit to keep perma-wrath and ww/sprint going from battle rage. u might get pwned from elites without enough mitigation or loh, or if u dont get a good start on them. this is what i use, just sold most my dh stuff (mostly on RMAH) and managed to gear this barb with less the i got for my 2 radiant star emeralds. he has 1 shot every boss in inferno on first try: barb http://us.battle.net...6/hero/22955046 . personal budget tips- 1- avoid gear with gem slot generally, gems can cost a hefty chunk of your budget, 2-crit hit dmg is a luxury and not needed imho; if u can survive for any amount of time vrs elites, extra dmg only speeds it up, you can go for it eventually, but id prefer stats that have secondary bonuses like: str (armor), crit (fury), attack speed (more crit/sec, more loh/sec, more fury gen/sec) or any mitigational stats (increase relative effectiveness of loh heals).
edit- for mitigation even tho armor 10: 1 resis is optimal, with a build not employing armor passives you have to consider warcry give 50% bonus res and only 20% bonus armor.
I have 5.2% life leech, and 200 life on hit btw. Doesn't sound like much, but with ~200+k crits (55.5% crit chance with passives and battle rage buff) I often get 3k-5.5k life returned on hits.
I wanted to quickly go back to this since 1.04 should allow for more dps output then before, either by finding new improved weapons being dropped and/or using more dps orientated fury spending skills that are being buffed. So I have three questions:
1) Does LOH benefit from Crit gear similarly to the way Life Leech does?
2) If I'm going DW, Frenzy will still be the best skill for taking elite mobs if you're trying to utilize LOH properly right?
3) Do you guys see yourself using Frenzy with any of the buffed fury spenders?
You can use WotB to escape crowd control effects and become immune to them, plus you'll destroy the pack before WotB expires most of the time if you use Slaughter rune. I grab up to 3 packs sometimes and giggle as they all explode the moment I touch them.
I tried the Slaughter rune, but noticed that elite mobs go down faster with Insanity.
I'm hoping I can pick something else instead of revenge like seismic slam or anything good and fun really, I find the visuals of seismic slam quite appealing, and the range adds some interesting elements. I find revenge very dull, the only reason I use it is because its so damn good and I do not enjoy the double whirlwind build at all, despite it actually being really easy to play with.. We'll see how it all looks in the end, items and buffs combined.
I was considering trying out some new builds at first, but then I realized that to take full advantage of the new buffs you'll probably want a nice high dps 2-hander - which is what I believe Blizzard's intention.
As for the actual question, the formula is something like
(d(m(xy)+(xyz))
Where d=attack speed, m=attack speed, x=base damage, y=1-crit chance, z=crit hit damage. d isn't going high, m is something you always want to focus on, x is obvious, so that leaves y and z as stats to focus on almost entirely. This formula has an error ratio of about 5-8%, but still works out pretty well and is much simpler than the much more complex version at showing exactly what each stat does.
A mixture of Attack speed, Crit, Primary stat, Crit hit damage, and base damage are what you need to reach as high of dps as possible. Ignoring gold and defensive stats, for a moment, these are all fully possible to obtain on any piece of gear they are all available on. (gloves: attack speed, Crit, Crit hit damage, Dex/int/str, Dex/int/str+secondary stat, for example).
Now then, for your post - Your offhand is pretty bad, hunt down a high +crit hit damage open socket LoH 600-700 dps weapon. Should be under 500k. All in all your gear is fine and I think it's pretty clear you know what you need to upgrade into. Honestly, focus on Act 1. Act 2 is a terrible act, Act 1 is better farm/time than even Act 3, until you reach a point where the kill difference between act 1 & 3 is more than ~1/2 the time(if it takes you 2 minutes to find, and kill a mob in act 3 - you need to do it in under 1 minute in act 1. However doing it in 1 minute in act 1 is far easier than doing it in 2 minutes in act 3, etc).
You obviously have upgrades, they're not hard to see - you're pumping the right stats, you just don't quite have the gear for A3. Farm A1 until ~40k dps, 800 all res, ~40k hp. At this point A3 should be very rewarding for you.
Also, if you take my advice and farm Act 1, Buy speed boots. Just like..+100 str, +12% movement speed.
The offhand is mediocre only because it was bought cheap (400k) and the reason I got it was to experiment with DW since I got a few replies on this thread to give it a try. I was definitely impressed so decided to stick with it instead of my previous SnB since I was getting SnBored.
I will definitely be looking for a better off-hand or hopefully in the near future use my main as an off-hand if I find or can afford something even better. Right now I'm really low on gold.
I actually thought my current LOH is fine though?
Also, go back to farming A1?? A2 is pretty easy for me and I can farm better gear. A3 I can sort of do as well if I take my time and accept that I will die 1/3 of the time when facing elites. I was thinking now with 1.04 coming out, A3 will be slightly easier and more managable.
mitigation + loh are key. then need enough crit to keep perma-wrath and ww/sprint going from battle rage. u might get pwned from elites without enough mitigation or loh, or if u dont get a good start on them. this is what i use, just sold most my dh stuff (mostly on RMAH) and managed to gear this barb with less the i got for my 2 radiant star emeralds. he has 1 shot every boss in inferno on first try: barb http://us.battle.net...6/hero/22955046 . personal budget tips- 1- avoid gear with gem slot generally, gems can cost a hefty chunk of your budget, 2-crit hit dmg is a luxury and not needed imho; if u can survive for any amount of time vrs elites, extra dmg only speeds it up, you can go for it eventually, but id prefer stats that have secondary bonuses like: str (armor), crit (fury), attack speed (more crit/sec, more loh/sec, more fury gen/sec) or any mitigational stats (increase relative effectiveness of loh heals).
edit- for mitigation even tho armor 10: 1 resis is optimal, with a build not employing armor passives you have to consider warcry give 50% bonus res and only 20% bonus armor.
Am I even geared properly for a WW/Sprint build?
I tried it out before and really didn't like it or just couldn't get used to it. Had only 799 LOH and slightly worse stats though. Maybe I should try it out again. If it can help me farm A3 with less deaths than I'm currently experiencing then it may actually be a viable option.
Also, seeing that your build has Frenzy, I thought the WW/Sprint build doesn't use or is not recommended for use with any fury generators?
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I'm hoping I can pick something else instead of revenge like seismic slam or anything good and fun really, I find the visuals of seismic slam quite appealing, and the range adds some interesting elements. I find revenge very dull, the only reason I use it is because its so damn good and I do not enjoy the double whirlwind build at all, despite it actually being really easy to play with.. We'll see how it all looks in the end, items and buffs combined.
(d(m(xy)+(xyz))
Where d=attack speed, m=attack speed, x=base damage, y=1-crit chance, z=crit hit damage. d isn't going high, m is something you always want to focus on, x is obvious, so that leaves y and z as stats to focus on almost entirely. This formula has an error ratio of about 5-8%, but still works out pretty well and is much simpler than the much more complex version at showing exactly what each stat does.
A mixture of Attack speed, Crit, Primary stat, Crit hit damage, and base damage are what you need to reach as high of dps as possible. Ignoring gold and defensive stats, for a moment, these are all fully possible to obtain on any piece of gear they are all available on. (gloves: attack speed, Crit, Crit hit damage, Dex/int/str, Dex/int/str+secondary stat, for example).
Now then, for your post - Your offhand is pretty bad, hunt down a high +crit hit damage open socket LoH 600-700 dps weapon. Should be under 500k. All in all your gear is fine and I think it's pretty clear you know what you need to upgrade into. Honestly, focus on Act 1. Act 2 is a terrible act, Act 1 is better farm/time than even Act 3, until you reach a point where the kill difference between act 1 & 3 is more than ~1/2 the time(if it takes you 2 minutes to find, and kill a mob in act 3 - you need to do it in under 1 minute in act 1. However doing it in 1 minute in act 1 is far easier than doing it in 2 minutes in act 3, etc).
You obviously have upgrades, they're not hard to see - you're pumping the right stats, you just don't quite have the gear for A3. Farm A1 until ~40k dps, 800 all res, ~40k hp. At this point A3 should be very rewarding for you.
Also, if you take my advice and farm Act 1, Buy speed boots. Just like..+100 str, +12% movement speed.
edit- for mitigation even tho armor 10: 1 resis is optimal, with a build not employing armor passives you have to consider warcry give 50% bonus res and only 20% bonus armor.
I was considering trying out some new builds at first, but then I realized that to take full advantage of the new buffs you'll probably want a nice high dps 2-hander - which is what I believe Blizzard's intention.
The offhand is mediocre only because it was bought cheap (400k) and the reason I got it was to experiment with DW since I got a few replies on this thread to give it a try. I was definitely impressed so decided to stick with it instead of my previous SnB since I was getting SnBored.
I will definitely be looking for a better off-hand or hopefully in the near future use my main as an off-hand if I find or can afford something even better. Right now I'm really low on gold.
I actually thought my current LOH is fine though?
Also, go back to farming A1?? A2 is pretty easy for me and I can farm better gear. A3 I can sort of do as well if I take my time and accept that I will die 1/3 of the time when facing elites. I was thinking now with 1.04 coming out, A3 will be slightly easier and more managable.
Am I even geared properly for a WW/Sprint build?
I tried it out before and really didn't like it or just couldn't get used to it. Had only 799 LOH and slightly worse stats though. Maybe I should try it out again. If it can help me farm A3 with less deaths than I'm currently experiencing then it may actually be a viable option.
Also, seeing that your build has Frenzy, I thought the WW/Sprint build doesn't use or is not recommended for use with any fury generators?