Let me say that I love my thorn sader. Hits hard, tanky as hell. Completed season journey using him. In fact I loved the concept so much I trawled through DF looking for thorns builds for other classes, but only found barb thorns.
Does anyone know of, or has been using any viable builds for any class outside of saders and barbs? Am not sure if it would be viable. But if thorns AoE as part of the 2 part invoker set bonus can be carried by pets, and if hack works with pets, pet heavy builds might work with thorns?
hack only procs a single time every attack so no aoe, pets do not proc hack, invoker 2pc does aoe 15y around you so you must be in melee for it to work, im pretty sure no other class can really do a viable thorns build and even barbs dont have a good one since no thorn supporting skills other than that one passive
I mean thorns barbs are gonna pass 90 on ptr. Their passive and attack speed stacking alone makes it pretty decent. Almost 90s on PTR with the only change being their passive got buffed.
hack only procs a single time every attack so no aoe, pets do not proc hack, invoker 2pc does aoe 15y around you so you must be in melee for it to work, im pretty sure no other class can really do a viable thorns build and even barbs dont have a good one since no thorn supporting skills other than that one passive
Is this confirmed? Back in the good ole days circa 1 year ago, hack procced off pets. If hack procs, it should also proc invoker 2 piece.
hack only procs a single time every attack so no aoe, pets do not proc hack, invoker 2pc does aoe 15y around you so you must be in melee for it to work, im pretty sure no other class can really do a viable thorns build and even barbs dont have a good one since no thorn supporting skills other than that one passive
"Thorn" barbs do work on the ptr. You basically just get Thorns damage, and use a standard HotA build in conjuction with Hack rather then Furnace.
hack only procs a single time every attack so no aoe, pets do not proc hack, invoker 2pc does aoe 15y around you so you must be in melee for it to work, im pretty sure no other class can really do a viable thorns build and even barbs dont have a good one since no thorn supporting skills other than that one passive
"Thorn" barbs do work on the ptr. You basically just get Thorns damage, and use a standard HotA build in conjuction with Hack rather then Furnace.
HoTA? not really, top ptr barb is a frienzy thorns barb with 87 cleared.
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Yea, Frenzy would be easier with that. I was thinking Bracers of the First Man with the +50% attack speed buff, but Frenzy would provide the same thing. Heck, while it may not be able to do 87 now, 82 should be easily doable with an LoN build.
Everyone else has no baseline support for a Thorns build. Barbs get double Thorns, and they can reach INSANELY high attack speeds with Frenzy, which allows them to have extremely strong single-target damage with Hack (Their AoE is lacking though).
Monks, DHs, WDs, and Wizs CAN go thorns, but no baseline support, they preform FAR below Thorns barb. Hell, they removed the Thorns support from WDs a while back, back when you could use Hack with em.
So, yea. Personally, I would like to see Thorns implemented in a different way with each class, rather then just "SUPER FAST SPAMMY ATTACKS" we have currently.
Let me say that I love my thorn sader. Hits hard, tanky as hell. Completed season journey using him. In fact I loved the concept so much I trawled through DF looking for thorns builds for other classes, but only found barb thorns.
Does anyone know of, or has been using any viable builds for any class outside of saders and barbs? Am not sure if it would be viable. But if thorns AoE as part of the 2 part invoker set bonus can be carried by pets, and if hack works with pets, pet heavy builds might work with thorns?
Wow. A thorns pet build sounds neat as fuck.
Anyway looks like pets have 0 proc coeff, so it doesnt proc hack. Oh wells. Any other builds/classes with thorns viability?
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Yea, Frenzy would be easier with that. I was thinking Bracers of the First Man with the +50% attack speed buff, but Frenzy would provide the same thing. Heck, while it may not be able to do 87 now, 82 should be easily doable with an LoN build.
Everyone else has no baseline support for a Thorns build. Barbs get double Thorns, and they can reach INSANELY high attack speeds with Frenzy, which allows them to have extremely strong single-target damage with Hack (Their AoE is lacking though).
Monks, DHs, WDs, and Wizs CAN go thorns, but no baseline support, they preform FAR below Thorns barb. Hell, they removed the Thorns support from WDs a while back, back when you could use Hack with em.
So, yea. Personally, I would like to see Thorns implemented in a different way with each class, rather then just "SUPER FAST SPAMMY ATTACKS" we have currently.
Wouldnt the belt that gives frenzy all runes help with aoe though.
Thorns 100% does not proc from pets.