I really think that mf is over rated, mf mostly benifits botters and hardcore maniacs.
You can be successful in the game with minimal amounts of mf, and with that in mind, good character and playing skills are more important than mf.
You need to learn to make characters that can go through hell-mode, where youre likely to find runes, which can either be kept and used in words, or can be traded for items worth hundreds or thousands of hours of mf.
Noobs are going to be shut down in hellmode, items or not, so noobs dont need to worry about mf or about runes, and should focus on learning the game and getting hand outs.
If you are planning to play with buddies, I would suggest some melee and some range, with at least 1 barbarian and at least 1 paladin. Other than that a good rule is melee+ranged characters, for noobs. I personally find all melee to be the best thing, but then you need some decent items and some wits to pull it off.
Ultimately, I think the best pvm classes are: barbarian, paladin, amazon, able to handle every map on the game, and generally with a lower grade of items and time investment than other classes. Pvp on the other hand is mental and has little to do with class.
And then there is the hammerdin, if you want to both suck and do some RMT.
Better chance to find an soj mfing than a high rune? What, with an isted out mfter, mh and a bot program? Now thats some advice for noobs, you are so gosu.
You have a shot at a good rune with your hell forge, and besides that, playing regularly in hell will get you a decent rune at least every 1 or 2 months. And all without being an obsessive botting, cheating maniac. Noobs and non obsesive players can get all the items desired without ever doing mf runs, and they often do.
The only people that gain more than 10% of their items from mf runs are botters, and obsesive mhing maniacs, period (ie cheaters). The rest of items are aquired randomly or through trade.
This is probably one reason that high level rune words were developed, to control inflation caused by cheaters. It's essentially impossible for the average disconnected player to put together a high level runeword without a large cheating culture (trading botted items for runes). I realize you and most of the people here are in that culture, no worries.
the best chance of finding an soj is actually from nm d or andy with the quest... chances is 1 in 600
the chance for a zod from a lvl 90+ boss in hell is 1 in 600,000+
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If you ever meet a hafling and a hungry dragon you dont have to outrun the dragon, you only have to outrun the hafling.
I've found 2 sojs since Diablo II came out - both from NM Mephisto. The highest rune I've found (besides the Hell Forge) is a Mal... Laugh all you want...
found a soj yesterday from nm andy...i mf her the most with about 300 mf
hardcore
nm andy is the most frequent dropper of soj's
why.... because her monster leval is set to drop leval 49 items or less and only 3 unique rings fall into that catagory manald nagel and stone of jordan
basicly ur best bet to find an soj is if u are in a nm game questin or playin and a uniqe ring falls out...if its nagel or manald go mf andy because uniqes can only drop once a game which means if whoever droped a nagle now u just increased ur chances of andy droppin a soj by 1/3 (so long as she drops a uniqe ring
total stats since d2 lod came out
including soj i found yesterday i believe i have found 8-9...?
highest rune ever found was vex (hellphasto keeper of hell forge can drop any rune in game)
it can!
it can ruin ur life if ur an ediot who don't think other important things in ur life but just stick ur eyes in ur monitor days n night.
the game is absolutely for gamers who understand the game not for morons who wonder around in the game for days with their characters never pass normal actI.
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the best BOW of DIABLO2LOD for annoying nubs in the game.......now beat this!
wow u disrespectful uneducated moron
wait till silver gets here...kid u don't know who i am here by the reply u posted a summons of silver legion will have a meetin with this this comin sunday kid.
think bout what u post again kid.
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the best BOW of DIABLO2LOD for annoying nubs in the game.......now beat this!
nice hair ferret n thank u for ur support
i respect u and people shall respect u here of ur actions
i'm sure silver already have the list of people who don't show their respect to others here so yeah thanks again friend.
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the best BOW of DIABLO2LOD for annoying nubs in the game.......now beat this!
thanks to d2 i had no life other than it for about 3 months. when my clan broke apart i kinda started my own though im waiting for ladder to reset. when d3 comes out i will surely have a whole new gaming computer and all the hardware capable of handling anything d3 throws at us. i learned because the computer i had when d2 and Lod came out was so blown away when i went bnet.
i say we make a clan in reserves so that when the game comes out we can all work on it together.
i agree. i am definately not the best at d2 but i do try and so far i have pretty good chars. i can easily kill diablo in hell though i have a lot of trouble with nihl guy. i dont have the best equip and the highest lvl i ever had was 87. i thought for a long time that the ik set was the best way to make a barb. i know better now even though i still have a ik barb. basically what im trying to say is that it doesnt matter what lvl char you have.
we dont know if you really do and probably never will. the thing with that is that WE DONT GIVE A RAT'S ASS how good you are. if you dont have proper manners and are always fighting with people then you are better off with the rest of the noobs. i am sick of people with "good chars" in forums or in the game that hold themselves too high to help others and instead attack people. dont you remember when you were a noob??
occasionally i get my orbtress and give low lvl chars rushes and i also tomb run for them. at the end i feel good about it and they see the good in the game.
so michael to put it simply, you are a noob. maybe not in the game but in life. know that all those around you are better than you are. i tell you this not so you repost this attacking me but to show you the error of your ways in the hopes that you change and apologize to those you have offended if there are any.
in conclusion i do say that you are a good person inside somewhere. find it and use it more often. skills like those of yours would be very helpful in the possible clan i wish we make when d3 comes out. just learn to handle your anger and dont take so personal when things are said here because that clouds your judgement.
You can be successful in the game with minimal amounts of mf, and with that in mind, good character and playing skills are more important than mf.
You need to learn to make characters that can go through hell-mode, where youre likely to find runes, which can either be kept and used in words, or can be traded for items worth hundreds or thousands of hours of mf.
Noobs are going to be shut down in hellmode, items or not, so noobs dont need to worry about mf or about runes, and should focus on learning the game and getting hand outs.
If you are planning to play with buddies, I would suggest some melee and some range, with at least 1 barbarian and at least 1 paladin. Other than that a good rule is melee+ranged characters, for noobs. I personally find all melee to be the best thing, but then you need some decent items and some wits to pull it off.
Ultimately, I think the best pvm classes are: barbarian, paladin, amazon, able to handle every map on the game, and generally with a lower grade of items and time investment than other classes. Pvp on the other hand is mental and has little to do with class.
And then there is the hammerdin, if you want to both suck and do some RMT.
better chance to find a soj mfing than it is to find a high rune
just glitch rush all day then after time you can get a high rune, but finding one isnt you should count on.
click it, add me, fuck me
You have a shot at a good rune with your hell forge, and besides that, playing regularly in hell will get you a decent rune at least every 1 or 2 months. And all without being an obsessive botting, cheating maniac. Noobs and non obsesive players can get all the items desired without ever doing mf runs, and they often do.
The only people that gain more than 10% of their items from mf runs are botters, and obsesive mhing maniacs, period (ie cheaters). The rest of items are aquired randomly or through trade.
This is probably one reason that high level rune words were developed, to control inflation caused by cheaters. It's essentially impossible for the average disconnected player to put together a high level runeword without a large cheating culture (trading botted items for runes). I realize you and most of the people here are in that culture, no worries.
the chance for a zod from a lvl 90+ boss in hell is 1 in 600,000+
find crappy ones make good ones
ive found 1 soj from a nm cow... yes not even a boss, with a whole 11 mf
hardcore
nm andy is the most frequent dropper of soj's
why.... because her monster leval is set to drop leval 49 items or less and only 3 unique rings fall into that catagory manald nagel and stone of jordan
basicly ur best bet to find an soj is if u are in a nm game questin or playin and a uniqe ring falls out...if its nagel or manald go mf andy because uniqes can only drop once a game which means if whoever droped a nagle now u just increased ur chances of andy droppin a soj by 1/3 (so long as she drops a uniqe ring
total stats since d2 lod came out
including soj i found yesterday i believe i have found 8-9...?
highest rune ever found was vex (hellphasto keeper of hell forge can drop any rune in game)
it can ruin ur life if ur an ediot who don't think other important things in ur life but just stick ur eyes in ur monitor days n night.
the game is absolutely for gamers who understand the game not for morons who wonder around in the game for days with their characters never pass normal actI.
wait till silver gets here...kid u don't know who i am here by the reply u posted a summons of silver legion will have a meetin with this this comin sunday kid.
think bout what u post again kid.
wow to much for ur life...kids like u we call them nubs in the game who beg n cry for things u want.
it's not worthit to talk to kids like u too who disrespect of others so yeah annoyances to much for that.
i respect u and people shall respect u here of ur actions
i'm sure silver already have the list of people who don't show their respect to others here so yeah thanks again friend.
i say we make a clan in reserves so that when the game comes out we can all work on it together.
we dont know if you really do and probably never will. the thing with that is that WE DONT GIVE A RAT'S ASS how good you are. if you dont have proper manners and are always fighting with people then you are better off with the rest of the noobs. i am sick of people with "good chars" in forums or in the game that hold themselves too high to help others and instead attack people. dont you remember when you were a noob??
occasionally i get my orbtress and give low lvl chars rushes and i also tomb run for them. at the end i feel good about it and they see the good in the game.
so michael to put it simply, you are a noob. maybe not in the game but in life. know that all those around you are better than you are. i tell you this not so you repost this attacking me but to show you the error of your ways in the hopes that you change and apologize to those you have offended if there are any.
in conclusion i do say that you are a good person inside somewhere. find it and use it more often. skills like those of yours would be very helpful in the possible clan i wish we make when d3 comes out. just learn to handle your anger and dont take so personal when things are said here because that clouds your judgement.