Does anyone else truly despise the way of acquiring these things? You are trapped under no less than 5 layers of RNG unless you are overgeared and can farm mp10.
1-3 Three Key Wardens, will they drop keys?
4 Which portal will open?
5 Will the organs drop?
This is not fun in any sense of the word, this is mindless grinding and tedium. They need to seriously completely redo they way of acquiring them, make it into a quest...or at least not brain dead grinding. I was just reading Nevalistis' post and it looks like the new Hellfire ring is going to be just as much of a grindfest as ever...with even more restrictions thrown on getting it.
Hiding under "it's not for everyone" is Blizzard admitting they can't come up with a fun way to implement HF acquisition method. It's so tedious, I'm sure more than few people just don't do it no matter how nice the ring is for alts.
Well, with Adventure Mode and the removal of Nephalem Valor, key farming is more of a "let's farm keys" situation, as opposed to "who needs an act 3 key? I have 1 and 3, I need act 2." When I play D3 with these two buddies of mine, key farming and needing NV stacks was such a chore. But if we want to key farm in RoS, all we gotta do is head to Adventure Mode, bounce to Fields of Misery, Dahlgur Oasis, Stonefort, and Silver Spire (I think the new machines require four keys, but still...much easier to get them in RoS Adventure Mode than in the live game).
Sure, there's some level of drop chance thrown in, which is hopefully raised per difficulty level like Monster Power did, but all in all, farming keys is a hell of a lot easier.
Quote from Maffia» Well they are improving some of it, you will be able to choose which portal opens in RoS.
And there's also this. With the original Hellfire Ring, you could have two organs for ages, and still have to farm enough keys for all three portals to get ONE guaranteed chance at the portal you want, and if that particular organ doesn't drop, you're outta luck. But with the new system, faster key farming means holding onto more keys, as well as targeted portals to maximize the amount of chances to get exactly the organ you're missing.
Truthfully...this all seems like the Hellfire Ring Event/Quest/Thing is tuned up a whole hell of a lot. Yeah, there's still farming to do...gonna be unless they say "Start Hellfire Ring Quest...Kill X...Kill X Complete...Hellfire Ring Received."
I mean, when they originally patched in the Infernal Machine event, it was during a time when people wanted more content and activities to do. And it was specifically meant as something to take a long ass time to finish. Of course, most people with high end Auction House gear blew through it on MP10 in a friggin hour, and I'm sure the same thing will happen when Reaper of Souls releases, but...
The way they've changed the Event is good all around. Sorry, Finder. Not seeing where the downside is.
Curse needs to get all the shit out of their forum software. It won't work on older computers due to all the fucking java and flash adds popping up everywhere. Other forums work fine.
To your credit, Finder...I do sorta like the fact that you named this post "Hellfire Hate" and you actually intended on hating on it, as opposed to naming it "Hellfire Hate" and wondering why there's so much hate. I don't know why I like that, but I do.