right... well, we do know that wow has outsold every previous blizzard game and has the largest gaming subscription out there. We do know that much of the wow fanbase has not been involved in the diablo series. We do know that blizzard could make alot of money if it expanded the diablo fanbase to include wow-players. And we do know that d3's new visual style is similar to wow's. Call it what you will, but it looks like a spade to me.
Designed around and altering visual style in acordance are different statements.
Once again - you made that up. Just look at yourself rambling out why Diablo has the art style it does. It requires some major imagination. It couldn't possibly be that,...gasp! Blizzard has an art style because of their art department!!! No way! It's about WoW! Seriously, stop trying to convince yourself and admit that you don't know that D3 changed its style based on WoWs look.
facts?
Yup. Some people complained about SC2 not changing enough. That's a fact. I've talked with friends about it. They told me that they weren't too excited for the game now. So I showed you that your bullshit about liking SC2 because it's "truer" to SC1 can go both ways. Sometimes a game should change in order to better itself.
your opinion
their opinion
your opinion
When I say something is your opinion, I'm showing that it is not a factual statement, but rather something that is based on your personal tastes. When you say something is my opinion, however, it seems like you are ether pointing out the obvious in some commentary that I added to the end of an argument or you have no real argument to bring yourself.
I feel like I've shown you that you don't know what you are talking about fairly well, so I think I'm done hearing you play make-believe and rationalize out how Blizzard designed D3 around WoW in order to win over people even though you yourself said that the BLIZZARD name could sell dog crap. If Blizz can sell crap based off their company name, then why do they have to change D3 to be WoWish in order to make a sale again? Kinda contradicting yourself I'd say.
Once again - you made that up. Just look at yourself rambling out why Diablo has the art style it does. It requires some major imagination. It couldn't possibly be that,...gasp! Blizzard has an art style because of their art department!!! No way! It's about WoW! Seriously, stop trying to convince yourself and admit that you don't know that D3 changed its style based on WoWs look.
Actually, no, none of that is made up. You can say they are all just coincidental correlations if you'd like and that you disagree with my deductions from them. However, those are not made up.
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Yup. Some people complained about SC2 not changing enough. That's a fact. I've talked with friends about it. They told me that they weren't too excited for the game now. So I showed you that your bullshit about liking SC2 because it's "truer" to SC1 can go both ways. Sometimes a game should change in order to better itself.
That would be part of opinion wouldn't it? I look at SC and i see some brighter colors, yes, but for the most part, each race seems to retain its identity. The game seems to inhabit similar planets. The unit and building design seems pretty similar and very linear from SC.
Diablo 3, on the other hand, has taken the spell/ability bar, has taken the bag system, has taken the one slot inventory system, has introduced brighter and more saturated colors in greater amount, has gotten rid of light radius, has lightened the atmosphere and took on a more cartoonish style, and has arbitrary colored lighting.
For me, SC is truer to the original than diablo 3 is true to its predecessors.
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how Blizzard designed D3 around WoW
Is this the problem? You think this is what im saying? Let me tell you, it isn't. Which I already strongly alluded to, by the way.
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Actually, no, none of that is made up. You can say they are all just coincidental correlations if you'd like and that you disagree with my deductions from them. However, those are not made up.
Alright. I've had enough of your theorycrafting. Actually, I've had enough of your theorycrafting and then telling yourself that you didn't make anything up. It's gone over the line into delusional territory now.
That would be part of opinion wouldn't it? I look at SC and i see some brighter colors, yes, but for the most part, each race seems to retain its identity. The game seems to inhabit similar planets. The unit and building design seems pretty similar and very linear from SC.
Drop the opinion game. I am clear when I state my opinion. I don't try to pass it off as fact as you do. That was the point I made.
Diablo 3, on the other hand, has taken the spell/ability bar, has taken the bag system, has taken the one slot inventory system, has introduced brighter and more saturated colors in greater amount, has gotten rid of light radius, has lightened the atmosphere and took on a more cartoonish style, and has arbitrary colored lighting.
Once again - those things are not WoW only in practice. There are a lot of other RPGS with these things. Once again you place WoW in the picture instead of seeing the big picture.
For me, SC is truer to the original than diablo 3 is true to its predecessors.
Again - I've already shown that is a subjective statement and that D3 is a different game that may require more changes than SC2 as a sequel.
Is this the problem? You think this is what im saying? Let me tell you, it isn't. Which I already strongly alluded to, by the way.
More like you edited your post. Either way it's still wrong to assume that Blizzard chose thier art style for D3 around the success of a previous title. If they were that strong minded about capitalizing on the success of a previous title we'd have World of Sanctuary.
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A GIANT STRAW MAN!
I'm doing a cliffs notes response as you clearly didn't understand more than half of what I said and opted to rehash the same tired arguments that you use in every thread:
- Your statements about the black cat and people who complain being wrong have nothing to do with my reasoning. They were made up by you so that you can straw man.
- After people brought up that the petition stats could have been artificially inflated I asked if that was good enough basis for change in a high production value game. After many people explained in previous posts in this thread how the petition probably isn't accurate it's beyond me that you still stand by it as some sort of document of truth. It is dirty. To change a game based on dirty stats of an online petition is ridiculous.
- Your comment about how people who don't like the petition don't care for the art style and only about gameplay does not apply to me. I care about the art style. I feel they did fine with the art. Moving on.
- The mattel toys analogy is silly as it becomes a tirade about RIGHT and WRONG! Heh. It doesn't apply to what I said. Does a dirty petition mean that game sales will be effected? I'm confused because I keep getting told that sales don't matter and then I get told by the same people that sales do matter to the point to where they make their game look like another successful game they've made...
- More like "better" is relative and subjective. Does Diablo 3 need to change based on the stats of an inflated online petition? Would you change your game if a petition like this popped up?
A GIANT RANT.
- I know that Blizzard used to be different in the past. I'm talking about how they are now.
- You took my response to avanent out of context. I stand by what I said as you didn't make any real comprehensible point. To say that Blizzard changed the Diablo art style to make it look like WoW is ignoring Blizzard's other games and art styles as a company and is therefore ignorant.
I am well aware that the things change in diablo 3 are in other games as well. However, they were not in the diablo series, and are in wow. So, between the two titles, it has moved toward wow.
I always edit my posts to try to get rid of any typos, or if I see confusing grammer. I did not change my points. If you look at your quotes, it shows it right there too. I never argued diablo 3's developemt has been centered around WoW. I argued they've ajusted the visual style, and taken a few other various qualities, found in wow to create a more unified style in their titles; and thats its effect which could draw on their separate fanbases into a more unified fanbase and really cash in off of it. Some people think its good, some people think its bad.
You are blinded by your fanaticism creepsville. It doesnt matter if people prove you wrong, it doesn't matter what people say. No one can be right but you. You only see what you want to see, regarding the game and peoples opinions.
There is an intelligent way to discuss matters, and you are very far from it. Your conduct taints anything you state.
arc the lad, lunar, dark cloud, wild arms, growlanser, star ocean, suikoden, xenosaga, dragon quest, blue dragon, eternal sonata, grandia, final fantasy, elder scrolls, disgaea; to name a few
Personally, I feel rpg's are more dependent on plot and the world/lore they take place in
I meant name some skills that don't rip off diablo. I'm not talking about story line, I'm talkng about game mechanics.
With all the great things mentioned in the interview, I find it hilarious that so many people only seem to focus on the negative, if you can call it that.
Corpses staying longer
More detail added to the textures
Fully realized PvP system thats not just tacked on
Shared inventory/trading system
Random and unique scripted events/quests
Rag-doll physics
actually being able to see detailed,unique looking equipment on your character in game.
blood spray
Skill bar instead of potion bar. (come on did you really like D2's skill system?)
No potion spamming (again did you really like potion spamming as an element of gameplay?)
Dismemberment of your character at death. (I know this was only done for that trailer, but they said they want to add it into the game.)
Interesting, dynamic boss fights requiring strategy.
I am well aware that the things change in diablo 3 are in other games as well. However, they were not in the diablo series, and are in wow. So, between the two titles, it has moved toward wow.
Above is a claim that Diablo has been changed in accordance to WoW. And then, in the same post no less, you say...
I never argued diablo 3's developemt has been centered around WoW.
Heh.
I argued they've ajusted the visual style, and taken a few other various qualities, found in wow to create a more unified style in their titles; and thats its effect which could draw on their separate fanbases into a more unified fanbase and really cash in off of it. Some people think its good, some people think its bad.
And I was referring to the visual style you were speaking of. And I argued that Diablo wasn't changed to incorporate WoW's style, but in accordance with Blizzard in general. That much is obvious too as I have proof supporting the claim and you don't. You have only assumption. Blizzard makes their games look a certain way graphically to give them longevity. Because today's best graphics are tomorrow's outdated trash. So stylized, good looking graphics tend to give a title more longevity. It's not about copying WoW.
You are blinded by your fanaticism creepsville. It doesnt matter if people prove you wrong, it doesn't matter what people say. No one can be right but you. You only see what you want to see, regarding the game and peoples opinions.
Ad hominem attack of a guy with no argument. Call me a fanatic if you think it will help your cause. You're the one being proven wrong over and over to the point of personally attacking me. I'm sorry I won't sit back and let you make up BS about why Diablo looks the way it does. It's just my way. When I see people running wild with theories and BS I tend to call them out.
And I don't get why people who signed the petition like to call other people blind followers and fanatics. We are gamers too and we have a critical eye just like you do for every game we enjoy. We just aren't as petty and whinny about it as you guys are.
There is an intelligent way to discuss matters, and you are very far from it. Your conduct taints anything you state.
Personal. I laid into you in a mature and thoughtful manner. You can only respond with things like this? Too bad.
So lets say the graphics are good and everything else sucks. Youll be happy with it because theres something you like.
Orsomehow like our case (IMO): The gameplay is kickass but graphics suck hard, you wont care?
Someone will most probablt say "hyperbole" or something now, but i think the point should be obvious.
One good feature isnt really going to cover the bad components of the game.
And as always: Why "good"? ...
It can be "perfect".
Yes, yes i know what you think now. "Its already perfect and everything you say about it being imperfect is your opinion blah blah..."
Unfortunately some big amount of people share those opinions. More or less.
Listen, I'm not saying it will please everyone, and I'm also not saying that the game is perfect. There is no way to make a game perfect for everyone, it is impossible.
However I feel that what has been made know about the game will make D3 vastly superior to Diablo2 in pretty much every way. There are so many good ideas and features that are being developed for this title I find it hard to believe that Diablo3 is going to be a disappointment. People may be disappointed in the art direction now but when they get to the slaughtering of hellish legions I think this will quickly be alleviated.
I don't want this to turn into an art discussion, but I think arguing the art is a mute point at this time. Blizzard is not going to change to art style, so I'm trying to encourage people to look at other facets of the game that are truly great, and that will make the game all that much more enjoyable to play. Blizzard has also said that they want the game to show a visual progression to dark, and hellish as you play through the game. I believe when it's all said and done, all of the art critics are going to be silenced, and in awe.
Yes these are assumptions to some extent, but I'd like to think that my assumptions are dead on :).
well i have one thing to say... hes definatly qualified to look like a game designer lol but im glad they will add more blood and gore and grit... i mean its necessary... but still if they dont have like... poles with heads on them and like in the dungeons of d2 the remains of people being torn apart on tables and in act 4 the zombies tied to poles and w/e not just te gameplay... its the FEEL of the environment... i think that thats something that they just dont get... YET... but they will
and to mister yoshida (yummy sauce on chicken btw) either way... i loved the skill tree system in d2... i mean i just hotkeyed everything on my synchdin lol... nobody just clicked and looked for the skill they wanted... unlesss they were an idiot... (and i dont mean f keys... i maen like asdfzxcv etc etc etc)
I have confidence in Diablo III being much better than what they've shown thus far. The environments don't bother me one bit at this point. The action and the Havok physics keep me focused enough on the gameplay to not even point out problems with the artwork - and even when I do look at the environments, they don't bother me. Remember - the Worldstone was destroyed 20 years ago and the Prime Evils are gone - that gives Sanctuary a chance to regrow a bit.
Funny connotations you make there, implying that because many people complain, especially on the internet, it "obviously" makes them not give an insight. I don't have to spell it out for you, do i? Nah, i think my analogy was dead-on.
I said it before and I'll say it again: I was referring to the posts where multiple people explained why the petition was not a good source for how many people are not in favor of the art direction. I never said that people complaining = they are wrong. If you could take the time to comprehend instead of trying to convince yourself you are right we could avoid this conversation. Put things in context like a big boy before you make such blatant personal attacks.
Ugh, i'm getting tired of rephrasing and restating peoples stances. It already got changed, people don't like it, obvious, YES?
So i ask you, what exactly was the basis for the change anyways? (and i hope to dear god you use "sales", like i expect someone as empty as you would)
Wilson explained why the changes were made and many, many people have explained it to you. If you don't get it by now then you aren't worth explaining it to - again.
For fucks sake, do i have to spell it out again? Are you again reasoning that just because it isn't a 100% accurate (hell, i even make it 75%) it doesn't have ANY basis for truth?
Go ahead and pull percentages out your butt. We'll see if an actual argument comes from it... oh lookie,...nothing. Again.
Your hysterical try at denial (and Blizzards for that matter) just makes the petition carry more weight and all the more valid. (otherwise there wouldn't be that need to deny it over and over and over and over again, in each and every interview, or discussion).
The only thing that was denied was you and other signers of the petition. Denyed your chance to change D3 into your personal vision.
I never said that those people do not give a fuck, i said that they "supposedly" don't give a fuck, as in "they act as if they don't give a fuck", probably because "they are fine with how it looks".
WAHHHHHH! Leave your angry arguments with other people from other threads out of this discussion. I don't care what you think about people who care more about gameplay than graphics.
I know its a exageration, but the analogy itself tells you that "sales" never EVER is a reason to argue "quality", especially not "quality in art".
You are also confusing "sales don't matter" when it comes to quality and how it seems quality DID seem to suffer, BECAUSE OF potential sales. But i suspect you are in a semantical denial stage because you basically argue like this: "i get told that "a" doesn't matter because of "b", but the "SAME" people tell me it does matter because of "c", PARADOX!". Nope, thats just extreme failure.
We're not arguing quality. We are arguing art direction. So your analogy is invalid. Again I ask: Does an inflated petition that people can sign as much as they want warrant changing the art direction of a game?
Redirect me to the petition or "poll" that made D3 change in the first place. Oh wait, right, they lost by "two thirds". *roll eyes*
No one gives a shit.
Then why is it so hard to accept "Diablo used to be different" too, and people don't like "how it is now" for obvious reasons?
It's not hard to accept. Who said they didn't except that Diablo has changed? Do you even plan things out before you type or are you just going to argue every single random thing you can make up into the ground like a troll without a purpose?
Thanks for taking a huge troll dump on this thread.
Even if there was 50k people who signed the online petition it was only because it was riding a hype train. I even signed the fucking thing. How many people jumped the gun and regretted it? How many people signed it for minor non art related issues such as light radius? I'll bet at least half, and when you factor in botters you end up with a very minuscule number of people that have a problem with the art direction. Maybe 300.
Diablo 3 has some WoW traits, I'll admit. Why is that a bad thing? Can Blizzard not use it's experience in game design to supplement their current projects without being shit on by some recovering WoW addicts? Please.
The opinions I've seen on the health orbs are mostly positive, why should I take your opinion seriously when you always seem to have an attraction to protagonism? @doppel
Maybe so, but your reasoning to make that conclusion is as flawed as ever, wich i damn well made clear.
Hahaha, "explained", sure.
Right, except that you didn't have any argument to begin with, wich was the whole purpose of my reply. Good job at failing, again.
"Denied our chance to change D3?" Wtf are you on about?
Funny cause half the people agreeing with your dumb fuckery do. You're guilty by assosiation, its so unjust.
Wut? Art direction =/ quality? You fail.
If i say "yes", what you gonna do about it? Cry and deny some more?
No, YOU don't give a shit. Wich makes you stupid.
Wow, we're getting somewhere. My job is done here, i'm not interested in the rest of your ignorance.
Not a single argument above. Nothing. You do realize that stamping your foot and saying that I fail over and over again doesn't make it so, right? In fact, it makes it look like you don't have anything real to respond with. I'm reporting you and putting you on ignore. :thumbsup:
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Once again - you made that up. Just look at yourself rambling out why Diablo has the art style it does. It requires some major imagination. It couldn't possibly be that,...gasp! Blizzard has an art style because of their art department!!! No way! It's about WoW! Seriously, stop trying to convince yourself and admit that you don't know that D3 changed its style based on WoWs look.
Yup. Some people complained about SC2 not changing enough. That's a fact. I've talked with friends about it. They told me that they weren't too excited for the game now. So I showed you that your bullshit about liking SC2 because it's "truer" to SC1 can go both ways. Sometimes a game should change in order to better itself.
When I say something is your opinion, I'm showing that it is not a factual statement, but rather something that is based on your personal tastes. When you say something is my opinion, however, it seems like you are ether pointing out the obvious in some commentary that I added to the end of an argument or you have no real argument to bring yourself.
I feel like I've shown you that you don't know what you are talking about fairly well, so I think I'm done hearing you play make-believe and rationalize out how Blizzard designed D3 around WoW in order to win over people even though you yourself said that the BLIZZARD name could sell dog crap. If Blizz can sell crap based off their company name, then why do they have to change D3 to be WoWish in order to make a sale again? Kinda contradicting yourself I'd say.
That would be part of opinion wouldn't it? I look at SC and i see some brighter colors, yes, but for the most part, each race seems to retain its identity. The game seems to inhabit similar planets. The unit and building design seems pretty similar and very linear from SC.
Diablo 3, on the other hand, has taken the spell/ability bar, has taken the bag system, has taken the one slot inventory system, has introduced brighter and more saturated colors in greater amount, has gotten rid of light radius, has lightened the atmosphere and took on a more cartoonish style, and has arbitrary colored lighting.
For me, SC is truer to the original than diablo 3 is true to its predecessors.
Is this the problem? You think this is what im saying? Let me tell you, it isn't. Which I already strongly alluded to, by the way.
~not going to buy a wow-ish diablo 3~
~this is the petition you're looking for~
In the game industry, yes they did.
RPGs are pretty much dependent on skills. Need I point out mana, loot, inventory, stats, potions, crafting....?
Fuck you, I'm a dragon.
Personally, I feel rpg's are more dependent on plot and the world/lore they take place in
~not going to buy a wow-ish diablo 3~
~this is the petition you're looking for~
Alright. I've had enough of your theorycrafting. Actually, I've had enough of your theorycrafting and then telling yourself that you didn't make anything up. It's gone over the line into delusional territory now.
Drop the opinion game. I am clear when I state my opinion. I don't try to pass it off as fact as you do. That was the point I made.
Once again - those things are not WoW only in practice. There are a lot of other RPGS with these things. Once again you place WoW in the picture instead of seeing the big picture.
Again - I've already shown that is a subjective statement and that D3 is a different game that may require more changes than SC2 as a sequel.
More like you edited your post. Either way it's still wrong to assume that Blizzard chose thier art style for D3 around the success of a previous title. If they were that strong minded about capitalizing on the success of a previous title we'd have World of Sanctuary.
I'm doing a cliffs notes response as you clearly didn't understand more than half of what I said and opted to rehash the same tired arguments that you use in every thread:
- Your statements about the black cat and people who complain being wrong have nothing to do with my reasoning. They were made up by you so that you can straw man.
- After people brought up that the petition stats could have been artificially inflated I asked if that was good enough basis for change in a high production value game. After many people explained in previous posts in this thread how the petition probably isn't accurate it's beyond me that you still stand by it as some sort of document of truth. It is dirty. To change a game based on dirty stats of an online petition is ridiculous.
- Your comment about how people who don't like the petition don't care for the art style and only about gameplay does not apply to me. I care about the art style. I feel they did fine with the art. Moving on.
- The mattel toys analogy is silly as it becomes a tirade about RIGHT and WRONG! Heh. It doesn't apply to what I said. Does a dirty petition mean that game sales will be effected? I'm confused because I keep getting told that sales don't matter and then I get told by the same people that sales do matter to the point to where they make their game look like another successful game they've made...
- More like "better" is relative and subjective. Does Diablo 3 need to change based on the stats of an inflated online petition? Would you change your game if a petition like this popped up?
- I know that Blizzard used to be different in the past. I'm talking about how they are now.
- You took my response to avanent out of context. I stand by what I said as you didn't make any real comprehensible point. To say that Blizzard changed the Diablo art style to make it look like WoW is ignoring Blizzard's other games and art styles as a company and is therefore ignorant.
I always edit my posts to try to get rid of any typos, or if I see confusing grammer. I did not change my points. If you look at your quotes, it shows it right there too. I never argued diablo 3's developemt has been centered around WoW. I argued they've ajusted the visual style, and taken a few other various qualities, found in wow to create a more unified style in their titles; and thats its effect which could draw on their separate fanbases into a more unified fanbase and really cash in off of it. Some people think its good, some people think its bad.
You are blinded by your fanaticism creepsville. It doesnt matter if people prove you wrong, it doesn't matter what people say. No one can be right but you. You only see what you want to see, regarding the game and peoples opinions.
There is an intelligent way to discuss matters, and you are very far from it. Your conduct taints anything you state.
~not going to buy a wow-ish diablo 3~
~this is the petition you're looking for~
Fuck you, I'm a dragon.
Corpses staying longer
More detail added to the textures
Fully realized PvP system thats not just tacked on
Shared inventory/trading system
Random and unique scripted events/quests
Rag-doll physics
actually being able to see detailed, unique looking equipment on your character in game.
blood spray
Skill bar instead of potion bar. (come on did you really like D2's skill system?)
No potion spamming (again did you really like potion spamming as an element of gameplay?)
Dismemberment of your character at death. (I know this was only done for that trailer, but they said they want to add it into the game.)
Interesting, dynamic boss fights requiring strategy.
~not going to buy a wow-ish diablo 3~
~this is the petition you're looking for~
Above is a claim that Diablo has been changed in accordance to WoW. And then, in the same post no less, you say...
Heh.
And I was referring to the visual style you were speaking of. And I argued that Diablo wasn't changed to incorporate WoW's style, but in accordance with Blizzard in general. That much is obvious too as I have proof supporting the claim and you don't. You have only assumption. Blizzard makes their games look a certain way graphically to give them longevity. Because today's best graphics are tomorrow's outdated trash. So stylized, good looking graphics tend to give a title more longevity. It's not about copying WoW.
Ad hominem attack of a guy with no argument. Call me a fanatic if you think it will help your cause. You're the one being proven wrong over and over to the point of personally attacking me. I'm sorry I won't sit back and let you make up BS about why Diablo looks the way it does. It's just my way. When I see people running wild with theories and BS I tend to call them out.
And I don't get why people who signed the petition like to call other people blind followers and fanatics. We are gamers too and we have a critical eye just like you do for every game we enjoy. We just aren't as petty and whinny about it as you guys are.
Personal. I laid into you in a mature and thoughtful manner. You can only respond with things like this? Too bad.
That's good. They don't run the show, but they could add a lot of ideas.
I just realized that not too long ago. Shouldn't have signed the petition.
That's nice actually.
I actually don't prefer this.
Not sure how you can get an even deeper story than Diablo II. Maybe they mean gameplay wise?
O Goody!
It's the decisions you make when you have no time to make them that define who you are.
~not going to buy a wow-ish diablo 3~
~this is the petition you're looking for~
Listen, I'm not saying it will please everyone, and I'm also not saying that the game is perfect. There is no way to make a game perfect for everyone, it is impossible.
However I feel that what has been made know about the game will make D3 vastly superior to Diablo2 in pretty much every way. There are so many good ideas and features that are being developed for this title I find it hard to believe that Diablo3 is going to be a disappointment. People may be disappointed in the art direction now but when they get to the slaughtering of hellish legions I think this will quickly be alleviated.
I don't want this to turn into an art discussion, but I think arguing the art is a mute point at this time. Blizzard is not going to change to art style, so I'm trying to encourage people to look at other facets of the game that are truly great, and that will make the game all that much more enjoyable to play. Blizzard has also said that they want the game to show a visual progression to dark, and hellish as you play through the game. I believe when it's all said and done, all of the art critics are going to be silenced, and in awe.
Yes these are assumptions to some extent, but I'd like to think that my assumptions are dead on :).
hahah you should send this suggestion to blizzard right now.
and to mister yoshida (yummy sauce on chicken btw) either way... i loved the skill tree system in d2... i mean i just hotkeyed everything on my synchdin lol... nobody just clicked and looked for the skill they wanted... unlesss they were an idiot... (and i dont mean f keys... i maen like asdfzxcv etc etc etc)
gamma11 > east
I said it before and I'll say it again: I was referring to the posts where multiple people explained why the petition was not a good source for how many people are not in favor of the art direction. I never said that people complaining = they are wrong. If you could take the time to comprehend instead of trying to convince yourself you are right we could avoid this conversation. Put things in context like a big boy before you make such blatant personal attacks.
Wilson explained why the changes were made and many, many people have explained it to you. If you don't get it by now then you aren't worth explaining it to - again.
Go ahead and pull percentages out your butt. We'll see if an actual argument comes from it... oh lookie,...nothing. Again.
The only thing that was denied was you and other signers of the petition. Denyed your chance to change D3 into your personal vision.
WAHHHHHH! Leave your angry arguments with other people from other threads out of this discussion. I don't care what you think about people who care more about gameplay than graphics.
We're not arguing quality. We are arguing art direction. So your analogy is invalid. Again I ask: Does an inflated petition that people can sign as much as they want warrant changing the art direction of a game?
No one gives a shit.
It's not hard to accept. Who said they didn't except that Diablo has changed? Do you even plan things out before you type or are you just going to argue every single random thing you can make up into the ground like a troll without a purpose?
Thanks for taking a huge troll dump on this thread.
I was under the impression that this would cause the world to gradually merge with hell, and further darken and corrupt things, not regrow
~not going to buy a wow-ish diablo 3~
~this is the petition you're looking for~
Diablo 3 has some WoW traits, I'll admit. Why is that a bad thing? Can Blizzard not use it's experience in game design to supplement their current projects without being shit on by some recovering WoW addicts? Please.
The opinions I've seen on the health orbs are mostly positive, why should I take your opinion seriously when you always seem to have an attraction to protagonism? @doppel
Fuck you, I'm a dragon.
Not a single argument above. Nothing. You do realize that stamping your foot and saying that I fail over and over again doesn't make it so, right? In fact, it makes it look like you don't have anything real to respond with. I'm reporting you and putting you on ignore. :thumbsup: