Earlier today the government decided to raid Rawesome Foods and Healthy Family Farms and charge THREE people with "conspiracy to sell unpasteurized raw milk products". They arrived in full swat gear and made off with pounds of cheese and gallons of milk along with vegetables and fruits for some reason. They made their way into Rawesome's and immediately snatched up the cash before destroying the store's entire inventory.
Now call me crazy but I remember not even 50 years ago the milkman used to come and drop off the fresh milk that would keep for a week if cold. Why is it now a crime to sell fresh milk? This seems like another way for the government to flex it's police state mentality.
In all fairness to the government though, terrorists could have been hiding in those blocks of cheese and containers of milk.
My view on the FDA is that their role should only be to inform the public of any hazards, but they shouldn't have any power to say... keep things off the market. With the exception of something that is contagious or could cause harm to others.. But if people want to drink unpasteurized milk it should be their right to do so, but on the same note, they should have to deal with the consequences of using something that they know can be dangerous (I guess basically how cigarettes are... you know the hazards of using them, if you choose to accept the risks, then you'll deal with the outcome later in life). Now that brings up the issue of should others share in the burden of someone's poor decisions (ie, insurance companies/tax payers), but that's a separate issue.
Lastly, I never get why people feel the need to harass the cops, it's not like the one they talked to had a devilish grin on his face like he was thoroughly enjoying what he was doing. Sure they don't agree with them, but the cops are just doing their job, they were given a warrant and ordered to serve it. Granted they should really have better things to do, but that's also a different issue.
Maybe the stuff I drank was pasteurised, but it was pretty much direct from the dairy and tasted a lot different to stuff you'd buy. There was definitely a few processes to go before it went into a carton.
Look at all those damn hippies and their filthy milk.
I would like to know more about this story though. The links just go to those company websites. I want to know how they were found out or what the rules were there against selling untreated milk.
By not pasteurizing the milk, they were facilitating a public health hazard. Like Don_G said, raw milk has harmful bacteria that pasteurization helps eliminate.
And I watched the video. I wasn't pissed off at the predicament, but more on the response of the woman filming:
"Welcome to America; where it's a crime to eat organic food."
Obviously, she doesn't know the definition of "organic." Organic means that it was produced without any artificial means (pesticides, for example). Boiling milk to remove bacteria does not make milk any less organic. If anything, what the cows eat would make it more or less "organic." Mass produced milk is often harvested from cows that are corn fed as opposed to cows that graze naturally. Corn is cheap, so it's easy to keep on stock to feed a large number of cows.
I would never, ever drink raw milk. You couldn't pay me.
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I hate the way you cling to ignorance and pass it off as innocence
But yeah I was under the impression even the local dairy pasteurized milk.
Camel Milk, Goat Milk/Chease, Alpaca milk/cheese is often unpasteurized, they never do anything to those people.
I think the company was mislabeling or doing something else wrong, as I doubt they would have did this rade unless they had some significant reason or violations.
Siaynoq the articles are at the bottom where I provided links. Under the video.
The part that bothers me most about this is that it should be the individuals choice if they want to consume raw foods. You don't see them kicking down the door at a sushi restaurant, thats raw and can POTENTIALLY be dangerous right? When I was born I was allergic to soy and cow milk so that pretty much limited what I could consume so I spent a lot of my younger years drinking fresh non-pasteurized goat's milk. I never got sick, I never died, I never had the government knocking at my door telling me what I could and could not drink.
In the case of raw milk there are benefits as well has bad parts, raw milk contains a lot of natural antibodies that are killed during pasteurization. These places that provide raw milk take precautions and if there is any feces or blood or urine that gets into the milk the dump the whole batch. It's not fool proof but I think it should be your right to decide what you can drink. The point when this became mandated is when I have a problem. What's next you can't consume raw vegetables and fruits because they haven't been drenched in pesticides? What happened to the days you could just pick an apple off of a tree, wipe it on your shirt and eat it? I basically grew up on a farm, we had raw eggs, raw cow and goats milk, fresh vegetables and fruit and none of us died from it, or even became ill.
Now we're entering an era where everything has to be disinfected, boiled, and bleached and I just can't understand why. To make it law just seems like the government wants to force their hand into it.
But yeah I was under the impression even the local dairy pasteurized milk.
Camel Milk, Goat Milk/Chease, Alpaca milk/cheese is often unpasteurized, they never do anything to those people.
I think the company was mislabeling or doing something else wrong, as I doubt they would have did this rade unless they had some significant reason or violations.
That's the thing though, they're all raw food stores and the milk came from different farms as well as the cheese.
Since when does " take various samples" on a search warrant, mean "take the whole store"?
Not just dairy products. Grass fed beef, vegetables, fruits, everything.
Earlier today the government decided to raid Rawesome Foods and Healthy Family Farms and charge THREE people with "conspiracy to sell unpasteurized raw milk products". They arrived in full swat gear and made off with pounds of cheese and gallons of milk along with vegetables and fruits for some reason. They made their way into Rawesome's and immediately snatched up the cash before destroying the store's entire inventory.
Now call me crazy but I remember not even 50 years ago the milkman used to come and drop off the fresh milk that would keep for a week if cold. Why is it now a crime to sell fresh milk? This seems like another way for the government to flex it's police state mentality.
In all fairness to the government though, terrorists could have been hiding in those blocks of cheese and containers of milk.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI1gvPmA_c8
You can read more about it here:
http://www.infowars.com/raw-food-raid-armed-agents-bust-raw-milk-cheese-sellers/
or here:
http://www.naturalnews.com/033220_Rawesome_Foods_armed_raids.html
Lastly, I never get why people feel the need to harass the cops, it's not like the one they talked to had a devilish grin on his face like he was thoroughly enjoying what he was doing. Sure they don't agree with them, but the cops are just doing their job, they were given a warrant and ordered to serve it. Granted they should really have better things to do, but that's also a different issue.
Just my two cents
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I remember having it on my cereal at my nan's when I was younger. Tasted pretty gross.
But yeah I was under the impression even the local dairy pasteurized milk.
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I would like to know more about this story though. The links just go to those company websites. I want to know how they were found out or what the rules were there against selling untreated milk.
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And I watched the video. I wasn't pissed off at the predicament, but more on the response of the woman filming:
"Welcome to America; where it's a crime to eat organic food."
Obviously, she doesn't know the definition of "organic." Organic means that it was produced without any artificial means (pesticides, for example). Boiling milk to remove bacteria does not make milk any less organic. If anything, what the cows eat would make it more or less "organic." Mass produced milk is often harvested from cows that are corn fed as opposed to cows that graze naturally. Corn is cheap, so it's easy to keep on stock to feed a large number of cows.
I would never, ever drink raw milk. You couldn't pay me.
I hate the way you cling to ignorance and pass it off as innocence
Camel Milk, Goat Milk/Chease, Alpaca milk/cheese is often unpasteurized, they never do anything to those people.
I think the company was mislabeling or doing something else wrong, as I doubt they would have did this rade unless they had some significant reason or violations.
The part that bothers me most about this is that it should be the individuals choice if they want to consume raw foods. You don't see them kicking down the door at a sushi restaurant, thats raw and can POTENTIALLY be dangerous right? When I was born I was allergic to soy and cow milk so that pretty much limited what I could consume so I spent a lot of my younger years drinking fresh non-pasteurized goat's milk. I never got sick, I never died, I never had the government knocking at my door telling me what I could and could not drink.
In the case of raw milk there are benefits as well has bad parts, raw milk contains a lot of natural antibodies that are killed during pasteurization. These places that provide raw milk take precautions and if there is any feces or blood or urine that gets into the milk the dump the whole batch. It's not fool proof but I think it should be your right to decide what you can drink. The point when this became mandated is when I have a problem. What's next you can't consume raw vegetables and fruits because they haven't been drenched in pesticides? What happened to the days you could just pick an apple off of a tree, wipe it on your shirt and eat it? I basically grew up on a farm, we had raw eggs, raw cow and goats milk, fresh vegetables and fruit and none of us died from it, or even became ill.
Now we're entering an era where everything has to be disinfected, boiled, and bleached and I just can't understand why. To make it law just seems like the government wants to force their hand into it.
That's the thing though, they're all raw food stores and the milk came from different farms as well as the cheese.
Since when does " take various samples" on a search warrant, mean "take the whole store"?
Not just dairy products. Grass fed beef, vegetables, fruits, everything.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/photos-from-rawesome-foods-raid-prove-government-agents-illegally-stole-entire-inventory-of-buyers-club.html