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I dunno it sort of makes me sad to see people happy about this. A terrorist is dead, people applaud and cheer, but that's also what they did when they killed innocent people. It just seems like we're sort of lowering ourselves to a terrorists level when we applaud death.
CBS is reporting "Americans outside white house rejoice at news of Bin Laden death."
Sure it's over now, and justice has been done, I just don't feel like we should be this happy over death.
I don't think that as an entire nation we should be happy over someone's death. But, I do think that those who lost a family member or friend in the 9/11 attacks should feel two things: relief and a sense of joy that it's over as far as the search is concerned. But was justice really served? Sure they wanted him dead, and there may be a feeling of some justice served, but it's more out of revenge.
It's about time that piece of shit got what was coming. It's a damn shame it took 11 years though.
It does seem like it took way too long. But with shotty intel and noone really "helping" in the search. Then after a while he released a few tapes, but nothing of significance and then for the longest time we heard nothing about him or from him. This is where my conspiracy theory kicks in about the whole thing.
I think this is all part of a show. Its fake and its also real. But its bullshit.
I had a similar reaction. They didn't show a picture of the body. DNA testing will take longer than two days, not only that but how did we even get DNA from him to begin with to match it against? Muslims don't do burial at sea, which makes me think this is really a bunch of BS. I think the American people deserve some type of "proof of death". The chain of events around the whole thing are happening too fast. Maybe people just want to get passed it and move on with the feeling of being safer.
The way I see it, his death did only one thing, made him a martyr.
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Another one will rise to take his place.(if he really is dead, USA propaganda you know.)
Propaganda nothing. That's just the way it is. Look at the Mexican drug cartel. Eliminate one leader, another is right there to take his place right away. It's a never ending cycle.
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First off, the DNA analysis isn't obviously yet complete (some media incorrectly reported it as complete).
Secondly, it's as obvious Obama had his personal reasons to this as well, but it's not as super shady as you make it think. CIA simply found out where he was, and Obama took the present given to him. It *might* be plausible that he delayed the attack so it would be closer to the elections.
Thirdly, throwing his corpse into the sea is totally logical. Sea burial leaves no grave. No grave means no place for all his followers to pay their respects. And I think that's exactly how the US government wanted it.
Yeah sure! The past 10 years, Osama was living happily and undiscovered, in a village in pakistan, inhabited mostly by members of the pakistan police/military. This is the place, they claim where he was shot. HAHA yeah sure! I believe that too ... not.
And how can they not have analized the dna and shout out he's dead? For sure another pakistani taxi driver found his head shot because wearing a beard.
First off, the DNA analysis isn't obviously yet complete (some media incorrectly reported it as complete).
Secondly, it's as obvious Obama had his personal reasons to this as well, but it's not as super shady as you make it think. CIA simply found out where he was, and Obama took the present given to him. It *might* be plausible that he delayed the attack so it would be closer to the elections.
Thirdly, throwing his corpse into the sea is totally logical. Sea burial leaves no grave. No grave means no place for all his followers to pay their respects. And I think that's exactly how the US government wanted it.
Yeah sure! The past 10 years, Osama was living happily and undiscovered, in a village in pakistan, inhabited mostly by members of the pakistan police/military. This is the place, they claim where he was shot. HAHA yeah sure! I believe that too ... not.
It's not too hard to believe that even some of the "police" where supporters of him and where hiding him. Especially if their families where threatened.
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well, I'll elaborate a bit on what Fragdieb was saying. I only caught a few minutes of the coverage(because I don't really care), but according to the media "a small force of us soldiers" just went in there and killed him. And that was it. We just rolled in there. And it was done. His hold out was described as a fortress. Apparently that group of soldiers were Masterchief Snake and Samus. And no pics.....Fishy...Very fishy.
Pics or it didn't happen.
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Well it was a CIA covert operation. If it hadn't killed Osama we probably wouldn't ever have heard about it, so why would they take pictures? And their not going to air pictures of his dead body either.
Well it was a CIA covert operation. If it hadn't killed Osama we probably wouldn't ever have heard about it, so why would they take pictures? And their not going to air pictures of his dead body either.
They aired the haging of Sadam on national television didn't they? Well...it's on youtube at least. Why would they take pics? Documentation? Why wouldn't they take pics?
Well it was a CIA covert operation. If it hadn't killed Osama we probably wouldn't ever have heard about it, so why would they take pictures? And their not going to air pictures of his dead body either.
They aired the haging of Sadam on national television didn't they? Well...it's on youtube at least. Why would they take pics? Documentation? Why wouldn't they take pics?
Pics or it didn't happen.
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My time in the service taught me two things... 1 how to survive in adverse conditions...2 uncle sam will only divulge what he wants to. There are so many things that go on daily that only the very top officials are aware of. Part of the secrecy revolves around the fact that the majority of the citizens are unaware or don't care whats going on. It makes it easy to sensationalize things like an end to bin laden. I would take this whole affair with a grain of salt. I hope its true.
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well, I'll elaborate a bit on what Fragdieb was saying. I only caught a few minutes of the coverage(because I don't really care), but according to the media "a small force of us soldiers" just went in there and killed him. And that was it. We just rolled in there. And it was done. His hold out was described as a fortress. Apparently that group of soldiers were Masterchief Snake and Samus. And no pics.....Fishy...Very fishy.
Well it was a CIA covert operation. If it hadn't killed Osama we probably wouldn't ever have heard about it, so why would they take pictures? And their not going to air pictures of his dead body either.
Yes they would release pics of it. They released pics of the number one guy in Iraq who was killed. They would definitely release pics of this.
Nice photo-shop job. The center doesn't even look like Bin Laden, and the far right one looks like the far left one. See how the mouth is open the same?
I was thinking that the reason for the so called burial at sea.
1) Osama was a 6'6" man who had kidney problems and needed dialysis. If he died of natural causes any wounds sustained post mortem would be apparent.
2) even if he did die during a raid, it was CIA run and they would only divulge info that was apparent, and yes that includes photos.
3) what a great way to boost a sluggish economy and get people to go out and spend money like the death of a terrorist. Historically, anything that has been proven to be an "upswing" on the war on terror boosts the economy for a short time.
4) Our government, more so the CIA, trained Bin Laden and the Taliban during the Russian/Afgan war. We even armed them. Bin Laden is the governments best kept thing.
Something for you all to think about.
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Yea, but Saddam was stumbled upon by a squad of Army guys, not CIA people who went in knowing it was a covert operation. Yes, the Army guys were looking for Saddam, but it wasn't supposed to be just forgotten about in case of failure.
still, Jack. Taking pictures to gloat in case of success is quite normal. As you said it was a covert op. If it was a failure, they simply wouldn't make it public.
still, Jack. Taking pictures to gloat in case of success is quite normal. As you said it was a covert op. If it was a failure, they simply wouldn't make it public.
I'm not saying that I don't wish there was pictures and I definitely think its weird that we haven't seen any yet. I'm only saying that it does at least make some sense that covert ops CIA guys wouldn't bring cameras.
I would like to point out the relation of the recent uprisings In the arab countries to Bin Laden's death. Basically, there is no need for the ideology of groups like Al Qaeda anymore. These last 10 years were the straw that broke the camel's back or whatever. A certain grim reality that lasted decades (mainly in the arab world), supported by the most modern and western countries (which Al Qaeda claims to stand against).
The US policy is responsible for things that we would define as "Terror" just as Al Qaeda is. Two sides of a coin to form the same thing eventually; the conflict which is actually being proccessed by the two "sides".
Not that i am justifying anything, but i do give relevance and legitimacy to everything, and the events that lead to 2011 including the announced death of Bin Laden were all ways of delivering expeirence of some sort, which causes people to learn lessons for an example, or come to certain conclusions. These thoughts are worked on by single persons and on the human conciousness collective aswel.
People are starting to understand that "things dont have to be the way they are". Its a change that is coming to the entire planet. Embrace it with love
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I don't think that as an entire nation we should be happy over someone's death. But, I do think that those who lost a family member or friend in the 9/11 attacks should feel two things: relief and a sense of joy that it's over as far as the search is concerned. But was justice really served? Sure they wanted him dead, and there may be a feeling of some justice served, but it's more out of revenge.
It does seem like it took way too long. But with shotty intel and noone really "helping" in the search. Then after a while he released a few tapes, but nothing of significance and then for the longest time we heard nothing about him or from him. This is where my conspiracy theory kicks in about the whole thing.
I had a similar reaction. They didn't show a picture of the body. DNA testing will take longer than two days, not only that but how did we even get DNA from him to begin with to match it against? Muslims don't do burial at sea, which makes me think this is really a bunch of BS. I think the American people deserve some type of "proof of death". The chain of events around the whole thing are happening too fast. Maybe people just want to get passed it and move on with the feeling of being safer.
The way I see it, his death did only one thing, made him a martyr.
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Yeah sure! The past 10 years, Osama was living happily and undiscovered, in a village in pakistan, inhabited mostly by members of the pakistan police/military. This is the place, they claim where he was shot. HAHA yeah sure! I believe that too ... not.
And how can they not have analized the dna and shout out he's dead? For sure another pakistani taxi driver found his head shot because wearing a beard.
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Pics or it didn't happen.
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They aired the haging of Sadam on national television didn't they? Well...it's on youtube at least. Why would they take pics? Documentation? Why wouldn't they take pics?
Pics or it didn't happen.
They aired the haging of Sadam on national television didn't they? Well...it's on youtube at least. Why would they take pics? Documentation? Why wouldn't they take pics?
Pics or it didn't happen.
-Equinox
"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
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Yes they would release pics of it. They released pics of the number one guy in Iraq who was killed. They would definitely release pics of this.
Nice photo-shop job. The center doesn't even look like Bin Laden, and the far right one looks like the far left one. See how the mouth is open the same?
I was thinking that the reason for the so called burial at sea.
1) Osama was a 6'6" man who had kidney problems and needed dialysis. If he died of natural causes any wounds sustained post mortem would be apparent.
2) even if he did die during a raid, it was CIA run and they would only divulge info that was apparent, and yes that includes photos.
3) what a great way to boost a sluggish economy and get people to go out and spend money like the death of a terrorist. Historically, anything that has been proven to be an "upswing" on the war on terror boosts the economy for a short time.
4) Our government, more so the CIA, trained Bin Laden and the Taliban during the Russian/Afgan war. We even armed them. Bin Laden is the governments best kept thing.
Something for you all to think about.
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The US policy is responsible for things that we would define as "Terror" just as Al Qaeda is. Two sides of a coin to form the same thing eventually; the conflict which is actually being proccessed by the two "sides".
Not that i am justifying anything, but i do give relevance and legitimacy to everything, and the events that lead to 2011 including the announced death of Bin Laden were all ways of delivering expeirence of some sort, which causes people to learn lessons for an example, or come to certain conclusions. These thoughts are worked on by single persons and on the human conciousness collective aswel.
People are starting to understand that "things dont have to be the way they are". Its a change that is coming to the entire planet. Embrace it with love