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What will you do if you don't like Diablo 3 after you buy it? An interview recently came out (MD has yet to post it) that states Blizzards art department won't change the art style. This has ruined my day. Even though they wont change it to my liking, I will still buy it.

However, in all seriousness, if I feel let down by SC2 and D3, I will never buy a Blizzard game again.

I would probably (respectfully) create a thread or reply to a thread to address the issues that concerned me. That way I can get a feel of how other players are responding to the same concerns. Isn't that a primary reason for forums?

I'm not going into the D3 game with the attitude that it just might suck. I take that risk with every game I buy, even if I've played the demo version where one is available.

I have enjoyed playing all the games I own that carry the Blizzard TM. I have no honest reason to believe that Blizzard is going to drop a turd in my hands. I can't answer for the WoW game since I've never played it; but I am aware that a lot of the utter distaste for anything WoW to be used for D3 is that pitiful emotion we call jealousy. D2, and apparantly D3 as well, were placed on back burners which many seemed to believe was because they only had time for WoW. Perhaps that is true, but it seems that they have also had a lot of administrative and personnel changes and reorganizations during all this time, which tends to also take a toll on product upgrades and project advancements. Also, how much did technology (hardware and software) advance between the making of D2:LOD and now?

And, for all you really paranoid and narrow-minded individuals who like to pretend that you won't buy it if...

I don't think D3 will be a bust. I also don't think that, even if it was, it would deter me from ever buying another Blizzard game. If you don't like the possibility of being disappointed by a game then don't buy it; but, do stop using "I won't buy it if..." as a threat - that's just childish.

I would like to see one that is green in the face, red in the cheeks, and sweating while its tongue hangs out and it is puking...

I love watching Baal puke!

Oh, goody! Now we can bitch about the "feel" of Diablo? The "feel" of Diablo is far less discernible in the gameplay video than any other aspect we encountered there. To begin with, in order to know how something feels, one must experience it firsthand. Another thing is that other aspects can alter the way the mind perceives the world around it - like music or other sounds. I'm not fretting much over this because it is a team effort, not just one person's idea of the way things should be. I also don't see where the graphics are ruining DIII, but that is my opinion. Whether the OVERALL demonic posture/feel of Diablo is still intact when they are done, and whether they have produced a game with few glitches and strong, differentiated characters are my foremost concerns. I think Blizzard realizes the necessity of maintaining a demonic posture and I think they will deliver a game that maintains it - whatever they may change.

Act II of DII was rather colorful in some areas. Does anyone remember the maggot lair - just to mention one?
http://newd2event.net/img/maps/act2/RockyWaste.jpg

By the way, Unicorns are not Rainbow Bright exclusives. Anyone who really knows Unicorn lore knows that Unicorns are most often depicted as innately vicious creatures in early lore and a person had to be truly unique in some way in order to be able to approach one. The horn on the Unicorn's forehead is a weapon, not a decoration.

Of course I still play LOD! Though I quit playing on bnet near the end of 2003, I continued to play in SP. I had to have my Diablo fix or I couldn't function. I currently have new characters on the east: a BowZon(nl), a BowZon(l), and a JavaZon(nl),and one new Necro(nl) on the west. If one server is down, I can still play online. I love LOD! I like to adventure through the Diablo world with my characters rather than "rush" them.

I love the idea of an achievement system in D3! I agree with radiant_knight on the idea that the achievement system should say something about the particular character. That someone killed Diablo in less than three minutes after log-on only tells me that the person either has friends that drop loot on the character; has a higher level character that can farm higher level items, or has otherwise surpassed Diablo's capabilities before ever going to battle with him. Besides that, what fun is it, or what big deal is it, to have Diablo dead three minutes after log-on? It doesn't really say anything at all about the individual character.

I also like the idea that they are looking toward a future account-based system that will encompass all Blizzard games. That opens some great possibilities, including a system where you could have an "all-access" account for one reasonable fee.

I still think there should be a premium D3 account where there is a small fee for the servers, and where premium accounts have amenities that free accounts won't recieve. To wit: no deletion of law abiding characters because of time spans between playing a particular character; no time restrictions regarding logging onto an account in order to keep it active; random additions of content and other important upgrades, services, and amenities that Blizzard's free servers will not be entitled to. There have been more favorable opinions for paid servers than I would have guessed among the fans here.

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Cognac .

Asbach! I love Asbach!

I also love a good Tawny Port...

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this thread is about "Diablo" character!

And your point is???

I truly did enjoy the light that was shed on Diablo's persona in The Sin War books. It really would be a treat if they'd incorporate that persona into the game somehow. A bit of the personas of the rest of the demons as well. Perhaps an angel or two, too...

I don't care about the wait. I want the game yesterday, so any length of time is going to be long. They'll leave us their breadcrumbs along the way and we can devour another taste of what's to come and we'll be all psyched out again. That will keep most fans going until it's actually released. Creativity tends to be sporadic, so I would expect that same inconsistency in any new information that Blizzard releases. I'll wait however long it takes until they are sure that Diablo III is ready to market. I want a good game, not a rushed release.

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-no booting abilities -if a PK came or a high lvl player was messing up my world there was no way to stop them besides closing off your world to everyone or hoping you have a char to PK them. A boot button would have been nice.
* A boot option should ONLY be allowed in PRIVATE games, even then I would dislike it. The kids on Diablo would abuse that power so much its retarded. Only in Private games for the small selection of people who wouldnt abuse it. They should go back to Diablo 1 style online where you can only see games near your level but make it like 10-15 level difference if that.

The person who made the room, password or no, should have the right to dismiss a hostile, unreasonable, or belligerent player. The people who drop into the games should do so with some semblance of self-respect, dignity, general respect, and common courtesy, and should NOT expect to get to go into a game made by someone else and just do as they please - otherwise they are just being an asshole. How unique! Hailing the maker is a considerate entry.

The kids on Diablo would abuse that power so much its retarded.

Woah! I'd like to see you define the word kids. Some of the adults I encountered online were way worse than the majority of the kids. I went to look for your age on your profile; but, of course, there's nothing there.

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I am definitely going to resist the 'encouragement' to play Battle.net on first go. The storyline is completely lost when playing with other people, no matter what.

First off... I stand behind everything EQUINOX has said in this thread. I agree 100%!

I played D1, D2, and LOD on SP before I went online - mostly so I would know much of what was going on in the game. I intend to do the same with D3. I'm another lover of the lore, and it does get lost to you on bnet. I had to use a lot of ingenuity to kill Diablo in D1 and D2 the first time, but it was so cool preparing for and then having an actual battle where I had to plan out the whole ordeal and battle with my wits. There is much to be said for the SP version. I did the majority of my online playing between 2000 and 2003. I wasn't happy at all with bnet for several reasons - none of which I can actually fault Blizzard or bnet for.

Being forced to password protect my games because arrogant and obnoxious gamers, who get a kick and a rush out of fucking other people over, and who refuse to stoop themselves so low as to use common courtesy while "playing" online, is one of the biggest put-offs to multi-player online gaming that there is. There is alot to be said for the fun of having someone drop into your game and possibly finding a fun and compatible new gaming companion. Protecting games against the seemingly endless stream of jerk-offs takes a terrible toll on the community at large by severely restricting the interactive ability of the community as a whole.

I am sick of hearing people retort that if we don't like the online abuse from other players we can just password protect our games. I have a better idea. Why don't we not be FORCED to password protect our games because of jerk-offs who think an unsecured game is a free-for-all for them; and why don't you people who have hostile personality disorders try to not be a fucking jerk online? Then we can all live somewhat happily ever after. PKers should only be able to PK another PKer - restricted by the game or the server rather than being left to a gamer's own self-control, or lack thereof.

LAG on bnet was server-side and it was horrible - particularly with LOD. ISP can contribute to latency, but with high-speed internet it shouldn't be a problem. Settings in a computer's OS can be altered for performance, as can the settings on most video cards, and even in the game's video settings. However, I had a state-of-the-art computer with everything set for best performance and I still suffered from severe lag on bnet - compared to next-to-none on the EverQuest servers (an MMORPG). Why? Because of the unfathomable number of bots, hacks, dupes, and other forms of cheating - and I'm not speaking at all of open bnet. I hope so much that bnet 2.0 is well innoculated against these things. When I was playing, I felt sorry for whomever it was that had to devote all that time to cleansing the servers of the never-ending rain of cheats. The players were the ones that were making the servers unstable and causing the major lag problems. I've been on it a few times recently and it is nowhere near as bad as it was back then.

Ever since the first time I heard someone shriek over whether or not Diablo III was going to be an MMO, I've been thinking on it. I own, and have read, all the Diablo books. The Diablo universe is rich and ripe with storyline expansion potential; so much so that a Diablo world could be filled with tons of content. I want my D3 with SP and bnet; but I also would love to see them build a World of Sanctuary or World of Diablo. I could deal with a Diablo MMO where you could actually get on a ship and sail across the Twin-Seas - fishing off the side of the ship during the entire trip, and perhaps catching a sea demon on your rod one day... Or, perhaps, a tentacle reaches out of the water for you...

I loved the LOD expansion! To reiterate a point, D1 and WC did not have expansions. Hellfire came from Sierra - not Blizzard.

We have been given no indication at all as to whether or not they plan on basing the game on a series of acts the way they did in D2. We do not yet know how they intend to link the quests or the world of Sanctuary together. That itself seems to make this a moot thread - i.e. nothing to base a debate on.

As far as an expansion goes, can we get Diablo III finished and in the marketplace first?

Dagger class, axe class, javelin class - non-class specifiic but containing replenishing quantity and prevent monster heal. There were times that I found pmh to be invaluable. Damage didn't matter as I could always swap back to my primary weapon at any time.

Quote from "Ivaron" »

The font has existed long before Diablo, true, but they have filled it up with the exact same color. And combine it with the show being named "Sanctuary", I think it should be obvious it's not a coinsidence.

It is also not a copyright violation even in that respect. Names and words cannot be copyrighted. I can write and copyright a song called "Last September" and Equinox can do the same - as long as the lyrics are different and the music notation does not exceed the prescribed measures of exact notation.

Though fonts can be copyrighted, you have to look at the copyright stipulations of each individual font, if there are any. Many of the currently used fonts are either in the public domain or their artists have granted free or fair use - with or without credit.

I really liked Equinox's response to this...