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I am so glad to hear these guys when they speak up!

I would never have expected it to be released this year. I expect it would either be summer 2009 or Santa Clause would leave it in my stocking. He knows I want it!

I also never expected to see the Necromancer as a PC in D3. Not because of the Witch Doctor, but because at the beginning of the gameplay video, when the Barbarian first spoke, I could have sworn it was the Necro's voice from D2 - and still think so. Well, whether it is, or not, I'm not really all that disappointed since I still don't know what the other 3 PCs are going to be.

I can't wait to see what pops up at BlizzCon...

Quote from "shelledfade" »

Exactly, you dont CARE what the game looks like. The real fans DO. I rest my case.

I am a real fan. I've been playing since the release of the original Diablo game. I was mesmerized by each release - the original and all that followed. I'm guilty of infatuating other people with the games - including my two middle sons, a few of their friends, my late husband, and a few of my own friends. None of those people go to forums to pitch childish fits, they don't go to forums at all; but I would still consider that they were very big fans of Diablo and are looking forward to Diablo III.

I was a little unhappy with the graphics at first, though I wasn't frothing at the mouth like a rabid dog. The artwork seems to have grown on me over the last few weeks. That does not make me any less of a fan. Yes, I care what the game looks like. It would be horrid if I traveled all over Sanctuary and everything, everywhere was greyscaled and common in a world of magic and gothic fantasy.

So good of you to rest your case!

Quote from "shelledfade" »

Then go play WoW's expansion if you like it so much. The real fans want a different art style than WoW. Sorry if thats past your intellectual knowledge of reasoning and understanding.

You mean only the real fans that agree with you, don't you? You mean that only fans that feel the same way as you can possibly be real fans, don't you? That they keep the overall demonic feel of Diablo is my foremost concern, as I've said before. Things can get just as creepy when doled out in living color.

By the way, being past (or beyond) one's intellectual knowledge of reason and understanding is nowhere near the same as being past one's ability to see reason or feel understanding. I believe the latter would be referring to you.

Hi!

Well, congrats on the upcoming wee one. I hope all goes well for you.

Quote from "Dauroth" »

It says on Diablo Wiki that Sanctuary lies on the back of Trang-Oul, which happens to be a dragon who occupies the entire creation...

Screw Diablo Wiki! You would do yourself justice to open The Sin War books and read of Trag'Oul from the Diablo lore itself. This was certainly not the impression I got from the books.

I had not seen this url yet. Perhaps I just missed it because of the way the threads run, but I'm glad this was posted.

After looking at the developers' screenshots, and then the photoshopped ones, I came to the conclusion that I much prefer the way the dev team is doing the art direction. I didn't see any reason at all to believe that the photoshopped versions of the screenshots were equal or better in any way.

What the team is saying makes good sense to me and the more its members speak out on their reasons and justifications, the more I sympathize with their position.

May the Dragon protect them...

I'm hoping that they will at least offer premium servers for a low monthly fee, with premium services that the free servers don't get - especially in regard to the time restrictions on account and character logins. Other perks could be used as incentives as well.

Change is constantly happening.

Quote from name="Elfen Lied" »

I just really like these games.

God of War I

God of War II


I find it somewhat amusing how most comparisons regarding Diablo 3 are to WOW, and almost never God of War, despite multiple claims from Blizzard that they coped god of War. Of course the similarities are extremely noticable, I just find it amusing they appear so seldom.

I know this is pretty basic knowledge, but man am I tired of all the WOW comparisons. I need a break from them for a while.

I always wanted to play God of War, but never got around to it. I suppose I'll have to check it out now.

I'm getting tired of all the WoW comparisons, complaints, and tantrums too. Perhaps someone should post a poll to see how many other people are tired of it.

If D3 is as much better than D2 as D2 was better than D1, I will be totally infatuated with Blizzard Entertainment.

And all I can say to that is...

WoW!

No Guns!

I like the archaic (as in primitive) quality of Diablo. Guns, cannons or otherwise, would absolutely ruin it.

In our own history, battlefield/siege cannons weren't used until around the 10th century; and small arms, beginning with the flintlocks, weren't designed and used until the 17th century. This is not saying that there weren't any predecessors, but guns are hardly considered archaic. I think that repeating crossbows, which date back to around 400 years BC, and blowguns are about as far into guns as Diablo should ever get.

Quote from "shelledfade" »

Actually even the Blizzard art team admitted to it. Several times. The fuck are you, retarded?

They've also admitted to borrowing from D2 for WoW - as well as from other games for both - so your argument of guilt-by-admission is purely inane. I have no doubts that StarCraft has also had its share of giving to and getting from other games. So... who's retarded?

It makes a lot of sense to start with a brighter world and have it darken as the game progresses. I could really go for a sensation, from within the graphics, that things are becoming worse over time. I'm all for it.

Of course, I didn't sit on bnet like a junkie for punishment while Blizzard focused its attention on WoW. I didn't allow myself to get caught up in the D2 crowd's growing jealousy of Blizzard's primary focus on WoW. I do believe that the SC crowd suffered almost as much inattention as D2. I, like most of the friends I had made, were finally displaced by the terminal unruliness and rudeness of a more-than-fair percentage of D2's unscrupulous, battle.net, hack'n'bot/PK crowd - not by Blizzard's inattentiveness. Therefore, I do not carry the WoW hatred that often rears its ugly little head around here. I've seen several cases on this forum where the WoW hatred has just been totally superfluous.

And what if the next gameplay video is just like what we saw in the first one? Why not address that issue when it actually becomes an issue? Why do you feel it necessary to consistently attempt to evoke paranoia?

I love vampires, werewolves, mummies, monsters, ghosts, ghouls, and demons!

Bram Stoker - Dracula

Stephen King - Salem's Lot

Anne Rice - Interview with the Vampire, The Vampire Lestat, Queen of the Damned, The Tale of the Body Thief

Edgar Allen Poe and H P Lovecraft in particular...

*Edit: Add Dean Koontz to this list!

Quote from "shelledfade" »

LOL. This guy is FUCKING CLUELESS. I liked the green fields of act 1. And ALLL of act 2. Because it looked fucking realistic~!!. This guy is a DICKWEED.

Seriously, did he even read the fucking petition. I DONT THINK HE DID. Diablo did not look like a fucking cartoon with rainbows. TELL ME WHERE THERE WAS 4 RAINBOWS in ONE place in act 1 or 2 with cartoony fucking style art? What a asshole. Like seriously buddy, get a FUCKING clue. Color is good, Just not when you go overboard into the land of fucking Barney with your cartoon-shit textures and paintings and insanely large blue/green TINT that eats your screen alive. If that guy was standing infront of me i'd fuckin deck him.

Diablo 2 looked realistic?

It's funny...

I've stood in front of a set of falls where there were 3 small rainbows caused by the way the light was striking the different sprays of mist from the heavy flow of water caused by the snowmelt. Yet a Grizzly, seeking to have me for lunch, trapping me between himself and the edge of the cliff, assuring me that I need to choose which way I would rather die, jerks my attention completely away from those mystical rainbows of beauty and color.

I saw a little in the graphics that I was unhappy with; but overall, I don't see that the colors are quite as detrimental to the game as some seem to think. I didn't see Barney or Rainbow Bright in the video or any of the artwork. Accusing the graphics of such a feat really seems to be stretching things.


What's not so funny is...

that you say you would deck this guy if he was standing in front of you.

Actually, Wilson said the team originally shot for a "very desaturated, very dark" gameworld. "We had all kinds of problems with identification of units... combat wasn't very good, and the worlds got homogeneous very quickly. As we played through it, we didn't like it, or think it was very much fun."

Diablo II, said Wilson, was actually "very saturated, very bright."

I remember having problems with D1 in the regard that identification was difficult - even with a good light radius, which could be disastrous to your character. I would rather have a colored world than a greyscale world any day. Quick identification depends on color variations. I want to be able to tell things apart without having to strain my eyes so much. Though some strain is good for the adrenalin flow.

Storms can grey the skies and cast shadows to alter effects, perhaps when tripped by a quest goal, task completion, or other trigger - like the darkness that was cast over Lut Gohlein after you were in the Far Oasis for a bit.

To reiterate myself, there is a lot that goes into the posture/feel of a game. Graphics are only a part of it. But D2 does have a lot of color in it that people are intentionally ignoring.

I will keep my faith that Blizzard will put out a D3 that makes it worthy of the long, long wait, and I think the graphics will fit the mood of the moment and the environment that they are supposed to portray.

Quote from "LUH-3417" »

I'd like Diablo as final boss. All the others can appear and be slaughtered too. I'm really curious as to what Blizzard makes of Belial and Azmodan.

I also agree with this. What would D3 be without Diablo? The Lord of Terror should be the last and most difficult battle of all, and Diablo should be a real MFR to get to.

I would like to battle all the lesser evils and major demons; Kabraxas even, The Warlord of Blood, and I'd like to battle Mephisto and Baal again. I'd also like to see Trag'Oul, Rathma, and Kalan (the legacy of the Balance) incorporated into the storyline of the upcoming game.

I believe that since Diablo, Mephisto and Baal bear the essence of immutable evil, then Tyrael, and at least one more equivalent angel, should bear the essence of immutable good. Though I would not go as far as to say all demons are evil, all angels are good, or that either species is totally immutable.

I've always believed it was Diablo. I couldn't begin to fathom what reason Blizzard might have for using a character other than The Lord of Terror himself, on whom this game revolves, and at that particular spot of the teaser.

Just because Diablo's personality seems to be rather subtle doesn't mean that he would never find reason to howl.

Quote from "Krow" »

Because you're basing everything on the Sin War trilogy.

If The Sin War books are considered canon lore for Diablo by Blizzard Entertainment, then the game will use that lore as its base - it would be almost ludicrous not to.

Even if you only used the games themselves, without the influence of external lore, there is still nowhere at all that says Diablo and Baal didn't have children; but I would assume that none of those children were Nephalem. Plus, there was nowhere in any of the games that gave any indication that Mephisto did have children.

I would say she was Baal's blood. IMO it is definitely not Lilith.