I said I was going to create this thread awhile back, but I postponed it. But now I am making.
I get people telling I'm immature - and yes I'm immature sometimes but they also say it at the wrong times. So, here goes my thoughts and morals on this matter.
First of all, there are 3 things in this subject, two being listed in the title. First is Maturity, second is Immaturity, and lastly there is normal. Normal is neither you being immature or real mature.
Maturity - the maturity aspect is needed rarely; if someone is having a hard time, you're trying to comfort them and talk to them about what they're going through; being serious and helpful when need to be at other times (such as someones in real pain (physically I guess) and they're almost about to die and you need to do something fast - of course this is more of an extreme situation and I hope everyone (with exceptions of mentally challenged people) would act proper in this situation...; handling your responsibilites; controlling obsessions; finishing work; there will be other things added here I'm sure... Normal - this is what we normally are at - this is best :); I don't consider porn being mature or immature, so I add this to normal; making fun of your friends but they know your joking; watching things (not doing) that might be immature if you do do them, I consider this normal (in other words I made a thread awhile back about a video and some people though it was immature and stuff but why? really, its just something I thought was funny, but I didn't do anything like it, I just watched it? is watching immaturity?); swearing (I don't consider it that bad though I still don't do it much); there will be other things added here I'm sure... there is a huge list for this one
Immaturity- we're all guilty of it; basically contradicting the maturity part; making jokes about people or other when someone is going through a hard time (this also depends on the person though, so you have to know first, if you don't know don't make jokes at all or anything), farting or belching around other people, drugs (cigarretes count as drugs where I live), getting drunk, not helping someone who is in danger - about to die (in Grade 5 this really annoying kid was eating cherries or something during class and then he started choking heavily on a cherry while the teacher was talking then the teacher was just stunned and didn't do anything and just stood there wide-eyed - I can understand being stunned but he should of done some - this I count as immature); flaming people (as though some people might diserve it, if you do it, it's still being immature); not handling responsibilites; making fun of people and meaning it (this kid named Wesley at my school make fun of a mentally challenged kid... A MENTALLY CHALLENGED KID... if he wasn't stronger then me and didn't take judo or w/e he did I'd kick his f*cking ass!; not finishing work that needs to be done; being a f*cking lazy ass; plain contradiction, no points or anything; racism; there will be other things added here I'm sure...
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*there are still things to be added for all 3 sections*
*this is based mainly on my opinions and morals, though I do hope most people share the same morals as me*
*there are others I can think of involing relationship stuff but I'm going to leave any relationship things out*
*feel free to post your thoughts on any 3 sections and I might add what you say to the list*
*please really limit flaming, as I would like this thread to stay up*
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"Cards and flowers on your window, your friends all plead for you to stay,
sometimes beginnings aren't so simple, sometimes goodbye's the only way."
I think by "Normal", you meant "Middle". There is no such thing as normal.
The problem of immaturity comes from people who have too much fun and who don't know the truth of everything yet. The problem of maturity comes from people who know too much about how horrible this world really is. Personally I am annoyed by extremely mature people a lot more than by the extremely immature ones...
There is a normal... normally people are in the middle I think because maturity isn't a thing needed much, though it is needed... and immature... well its used quite a lot more then maturity, but normal is still the most used one (or middle w/e) so I just call middle normal because it's what the typical (normal) person is like most of the time.
I am extremely annoyed by extremely mature people, and I am not extremel but still annoyed by extremely immature people. But it also depends what immaturity. I'm extremely annoyed by this extreme immaturity: making fun of mentally challenged people.
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"Cards and flowers on your window, your friends all plead for you to stay,
sometimes beginnings aren't so simple, sometimes goodbye's the only way."
Normal is conformist. Conformists are often not in moderation. I would say that the average person is immature, and since majority is normal, normal = immature, and that was not your point there, your point was middle, but I guess we can use normal instead of middle for the sake of this discussion.
Anyway, I would rather have some kid laugh at mentally disabled people than have some war guy talk about how everyone is nothing and they wouldn't be worth anything if a war broke out and how everyone gotta be a wolf and grind for their lives and other crap like that.
I think by "Normal", you meant "Middle". There is no such thing as normal.
The problem of immaturity comes from people who have too much fun and who don't know the truth of everything yet. The problem of maturity comes from people who know too much about how horrible this world really is. Personally I am annoyed by extremely mature people a lot more than by the extremely immature ones...
Well I'm 13, my father is dead, my grandmother who was like a steparent is dead, and my uncle who came by like every other day is dead. Maybe this is why I'm mature?
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It's the decisions you make when you have no time to make them that define who you are.
No, you're in the middle here at diablo3.com, not mature. I have yet to see you in a mature case. But I can believe you are mature. I believe anyone is mature. Partly mature anyways.
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Anyway, I would rather have some kid laugh at mentally disabled people than have some war guy talk about how everyone is nothing and they wouldn't be worth anything if a war broke out and how everyone gotta be a wolf and grind for their lives and other crap like that.
The war thing would be more annoying yes. But making fun of a mentally challenged kid... I dunno... just no. I'd want to hit him around with a hammer in the face and then stab him a couple of times.
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"Cards and flowers on your window, your friends all plead for you to stay,
sometimes beginnings aren't so simple, sometimes goodbye's the only way."
No, you're in the middle here at diablo3.com, not mature. I have yet to see you in a mature case. But I can believe you are mature. I believe anyone is mature. Partly mature anyways.
Well, Visucius is my brother, you say he's real serious.
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It's the decisions you make when you have no time to make them that define who you are.
The problem of maturity comes from people who know too much about how horrible this world really is.
Mature and pessimistic are not the same thing...
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Many of those I disagree upon. Swearing is not necessary all the time and to be "normal". It should only be used to express emotions. I would put porn as immature... I mean looking a naked women you don't know... That's immature to me.
As well, I would like to point out that you're saying you can only be immature or mature in certain situations. You can be immature or mature in every situation, depending on how you take it.
Overall though, good attempt to sort out the difference, I just think that they're too general terms to put such specific definitions.
Pretty much. For the most part, people who grew up normally are immature. I had experienced a divorce and some other events so that broke me personally. I wasn't like this 7 years ago.
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Mature and pessimistic are not the same thing...
Pessimists are mature, but mature are not necessarily pessimists, I would put it that way.
It may come from being too depressed. For instance, you make a joke which is usually funny, but the person had some incident related to that joke, so instead of getting the joke they just get all sad and say it's not funny.
What does pessimistic mean again?
Doing @Name - is so much easier then quoting...
@Equniox - that's a downfall of jokes I've had that happen to me a few times...
@Winston - Yeh come to think of it I do kinda think porn is a little more immature then normal. I'd put it in between. Mainly because you aren't doing anything directly to someone. But I'm too lazy to move stuff around and make an inbetween one. It'd be too much work and it'd make it more confusing.
Also, I do hate swearing CONSTANTLY but I was looking more towards a rarely or sometimes.
You can be immature anytime you want really I guess, almost anytime, I mean if you're sleeping you can't be or logging on your computer just sitting there doing nothing... but when it comes to maturity how can you be mature anytime? If there is any possible way to be mature at anytime I'd just convert maturity into stupidity.
@AlphaX - I call that serious stupidity
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"Cards and flowers on your window, your friends all plead for you to stay,
sometimes beginnings aren't so simple, sometimes goodbye's the only way."
Anyway, well I mean you should be able to be mature in every situation because in every situation there is the most mature you can possibly be. If you take this most mature route then you're being mature. That's why I think you can't specify maturity like you did.
I get people telling I'm immature - and yes I'm immature sometimes but they also say it at the wrong times. So, here goes my thoughts and morals on this matter.
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First of all, there are 3 things in this subject, two being listed in the title. First is Maturity, second is Immaturity, and lastly there is normal. Normal is neither you being immature or real mature.
Maturity - the maturity aspect is needed rarely; if someone is having a hard time, you're trying to comfort them and talk to them about what they're going through; being serious and helpful when need to be at other times (such as someones in real pain (physically I guess) and they're almost about to die and you need to do something fast - of course this is more of an extreme situation and I hope everyone (with exceptions of mentally challenged people) would act proper in this situation...; handling your responsibilites; controlling obsessions; finishing work; there will be other things added here I'm sure...
Normal - this is what we normally are at - this is best :); I don't consider porn being mature or immature, so I add this to normal; making fun of your friends but they know your joking; watching things (not doing) that might be immature if you do do them, I consider this normal (in other words I made a thread awhile back about a video and some people though it was immature and stuff but why? really, its just something I thought was funny, but I didn't do anything like it, I just watched it? is watching immaturity?); swearing (I don't consider it that bad though I still don't do it much); there will be other things added here I'm sure... there is a huge list for this one
Immaturity- we're all guilty of it; basically contradicting the maturity part; making jokes about people or other when someone is going through a hard time (this also depends on the person though, so you have to know first, if you don't know don't make jokes at all or anything), farting or belching around other people, drugs (cigarretes count as drugs where I live), getting drunk, not helping someone who is in danger - about to die (in Grade 5 this really annoying kid was eating cherries or something during class and then he started choking heavily on a cherry while the teacher was talking then the teacher was just stunned and didn't do anything and just stood there wide-eyed - I can understand being stunned but he should of done some - this I count as immature); flaming people (as though some people might diserve it, if you do it, it's still being immature); not handling responsibilites; making fun of people and meaning it (this kid named Wesley at my school make fun of a mentally challenged kid... A MENTALLY CHALLENGED KID... if he wasn't stronger then me and didn't take judo or w/e he did I'd kick his f*cking ass!; not finishing work that needs to be done; being a f*cking lazy ass; plain contradiction, no points or anything; racism; there will be other things added here I'm sure...
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*there are still things to be added for all 3 sections*
*this is based mainly on my opinions and morals, though I do hope most people share the same morals as me*
*there are others I can think of involing relationship stuff but I'm going to leave any relationship things out*
*feel free to post your thoughts on any 3 sections and I might add what you say to the list*
*please really limit flaming, as I would like this thread to stay up*
"Cards and flowers on your window, your friends all plead for you to stay,
sometimes beginnings aren't so simple, sometimes goodbye's the only way."
The problem of immaturity comes from people who have too much fun and who don't know the truth of everything yet. The problem of maturity comes from people who know too much about how horrible this world really is. Personally I am annoyed by extremely mature people a lot more than by the extremely immature ones...
I am extremely annoyed by extremely mature people, and I am not extremel but still annoyed by extremely immature people. But it also depends what immaturity. I'm extremely annoyed by this extreme immaturity: making fun of mentally challenged people.
"Cards and flowers on your window, your friends all plead for you to stay,
sometimes beginnings aren't so simple, sometimes goodbye's the only way."
Anyway, I would rather have some kid laugh at mentally disabled people than have some war guy talk about how everyone is nothing and they wouldn't be worth anything if a war broke out and how everyone gotta be a wolf and grind for their lives and other crap like that.
Well I'm 13, my father is dead, my grandmother who was like a steparent is dead, and my uncle who came by like every other day is dead. Maybe this is why I'm mature?
It's the decisions you make when you have no time to make them that define who you are.
The war thing would be more annoying yes. But making fun of a mentally challenged kid... I dunno... just no. I'd want to hit him around with a hammer in the face and then stab him a couple of times.
"Cards and flowers on your window, your friends all plead for you to stay,
sometimes beginnings aren't so simple, sometimes goodbye's the only way."
Well, Visucius is my brother, you say he's real serious.
It's the decisions you make when you have no time to make them that define who you are.
Mature and pessimistic are not the same thing...
In response to chaosdragon's post:
Many of those I disagree upon. Swearing is not necessary all the time and to be "normal". It should only be used to express emotions. I would put porn as immature... I mean looking a naked women you don't know... That's immature to me.
As well, I would like to point out that you're saying you can only be immature or mature in certain situations. You can be immature or mature in every situation, depending on how you take it.
Overall though, good attempt to sort out the difference, I just think that they're too general terms to put such specific definitions.
*****This is my opinion.
Pessimists are mature, but mature are not necessarily pessimists, I would put it that way.
In other words, you don't get jokes and you take jokes seriously and stuff, that's not being mature though. Not in my books anyways.
"Cards and flowers on your window, your friends all plead for you to stay,
sometimes beginnings aren't so simple, sometimes goodbye's the only way."
I call that stupidity or in some cases counter-sarcasm.
It's the decisions you make when you have no time to make them that define who you are.
Well you're confining mature people to the pessimist category.
Doing @Name - is so much easier then quoting...
@Equniox - that's a downfall of jokes I've had that happen to me a few times...
@Winston - Yeh come to think of it I do kinda think porn is a little more immature then normal. I'd put it in between. Mainly because you aren't doing anything directly to someone. But I'm too lazy to move stuff around and make an inbetween one. It'd be too much work and it'd make it more confusing.
Also, I do hate swearing CONSTANTLY but I was looking more towards a rarely or sometimes.
You can be immature anytime you want really I guess, almost anytime, I mean if you're sleeping you can't be or logging on your computer just sitting there doing nothing... but when it comes to maturity how can you be mature anytime? If there is any possible way to be mature at anytime I'd just convert maturity into stupidity.
@AlphaX - I call that serious stupidity
"Cards and flowers on your window, your friends all plead for you to stay,
sometimes beginnings aren't so simple, sometimes goodbye's the only way."
Anyway, well I mean you should be able to be mature in every situation because in every situation there is the most mature you can possibly be. If you take this most mature route then you're being mature. That's why I think you can't specify maturity like you did.
@Winston - give me an example of the most mature you can be in a situation then, even if you don't need to be mature at all.
"Cards and flowers on your window, your friends all plead for you to stay,
sometimes beginnings aren't so simple, sometimes goodbye's the only way."
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