A woman is recognized and begins to talk and when the councilmen decide they don't like where her conversation they have the gestapo, I mean town police, arrest her with the Mayor telling them they have no right to do so. You can't legally pass a motion to shut someone up while they are talking. No motions can be passed while someone holds the floor. This is just a prime example of how the police can be hired as jackbooted thugs.
You can keep posting these forever, it'll never prove anything. People got in fistfights and beat eachother with chairs on the senate floor a hundred years ago. People were hanged for speaking against the king 200 years ago.
It's a pointless pursuit, you're still going to be wrong no matter how many incidents you post.
You can keep posting these forever, it'll never prove anything. People got in fistfights and beat eachother with chairs on the senate floor a hundred years ago. People were hanged for speaking against the king 200 years ago.
It's a pointless pursuit, you're still going to be wrong no matter how many incidents you post.
With that attitude, we would still be part of Britain.
You can keep posting these forever, it'll never prove anything. People got in fistfights and beat eachother with chairs on the senate floor a hundred years ago. People were hanged for speaking against the king 200 years ago.
It's a pointless pursuit, you're still going to be wrong no matter how many incidents you post.
With that attitude, we would still be part of Britain.
It's one thing to combat social injustice. It's another to pretend the apocalypse is happening
The lady was talking calmly and had the floor, they had no right to silence her. She hadn't made a scene yet, and there's no real proof she was going to. It's proactive thinking like that which becomes a slippery slope. Innocent until proven guilty. Freedom of speech.
I'm happy more people lately have realized it's okay to film injustice, it's not illegal, it's their right.
The lady was talking calmly and had the floor, they had no right to silence her. She hadn't made a scene yet, and there's no real proof she was going to. It's proactive thinking like that which becomes a slippery slope. Innocent until proven guilty. Freedom of speech.
I'm happy more people lately have realized it's okay to film injustice, it's not illegal, it's their right.
Well you were the one supporting that ridiculous anon video about starting a revolution, clearly you think things are much worse than they are
As always, I agree with how wrong it is, but also as always, the situation is ever improving, and our current situation as a society is far better than any other time in history.
If you go back and read that thread I said I thought it was interesting but I only really agreed with a few points. Knowing how to grow your own food, investing in precious metals, educate yourself on injustice. I didn't condone anything else they'd done nor so I think that they're going to overthrow the world or something.
Whether our situation as a society is better I'm not sold on yet. I'm not going to just ignore everything because they pat me on the butt and tell me how pretty I am and how good things are. I have my own eyes, ears, and mind.
The council had no authority to tell them to do anything at all.
The council are in just as much wrong as the police. That being said, the council did not lay their hands on the woman, the police did. In my opinion, while the council shouldn't be put in jail like the police should, the council should at least be fined.
Since when do people get to tell policemen what to do. I thought that was only when they wanted someone off their property or like someones threatening them. I am all for policemen having power but that was absurd by any standard. I feel if anything those police men and women should be beaten within an inch of their lives then left alone to recuperate only to be beaten again.
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Police follows orders, that's good. When Police stops following orders then we need to worry. In the meantime the problem isn't really with law enforcement, it is with the ones that control it. Those officers didn't decide on their own that they need to "silence" someone up, they were ordered to do so. I don't get it, why do you blame them and not the idiot that gave the order?
The problem is you have a group of volunteers who make up the council basically, then you have a publicly elected voted in Mayor telling them to stop. Why in the world when legally they had no right to do so, and the only person holding a legal office in the place is saying not to, would they still do it? They have friends on the city council probably. I can't think of any rational explanation.
That would make perfect sense, aside from the Mayor, the publicly elected Mayor, yelling that they have no right to arrest her and that she still has the floor.
It's one thing to combat social injustice. It's another to pretend the apocalypse is happening
Apocalypse? Not so much.
However, things are still going to shit in America.
And things are not improving.
My thoughts exactly.
Yes, we don't behead people or pull out their intestines, but that doesn't necessarily mean we're better than our predecessors. We're still the same human race with the same fears, and, by extension of fears, motivations. Just because something isn't graphic doesn't mean it's not wrong.
With facets of the world as we know it crumbling down around us, we need to adjust to the new. Fear of the redistribution of power and wealth affects us at the macro (national and international) and micro (neighborhood and family) levels. Stringent budgets, rising crime rates, and so on are all excellent fuels for making people do horrible things.
Uncertainty with what the future holds is sometimes even more unnerving.
Yeah crime rates for the most part have gone down. Of course that doesn't count the massive amount of lesser crimes they let go now that our prisons are basically overflowing. People also tend to commit less crime when they're afraid of being shot by the police or cracked in the head with a nightstick. This is a radical comparison but I wonder what the crime rate in nazi Germany was. I'm guessing it was pretty low. We're still the leading country in crime. Even over India whose population vastly outnumbers us.
I'm not saying our police are nazi's Im just saying if you feel intimidated by the police you're a lot less likely to do ANYTHING considered breaking the law.
So if a cop tells you you're breaking the law, no matter if you are or not, you're more inclined to just take it, rather than oppose it and possibly get beaten.
United States 11,877,218
United Kingdom 6,523,706
Germany 6,507,394
France 3,771,850
Russia 2,952,370
Japan 2,853,739
South Africa 2,683,849
Canada 2,516,918
Italy 2,231,550
India 1,764,630
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ihl1yMWKkE
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/780/267/Rogue_Cops_Seize_Control_Of_AZ_Town.html
It's a pointless pursuit, you're still going to be wrong no matter how many incidents you post.
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With that attitude, we would still be part of Britain.
It's one thing to combat social injustice. It's another to pretend the apocalypse is happening
The lady was talking calmly and had the floor, they had no right to silence her. She hadn't made a scene yet, and there's no real proof she was going to. It's proactive thinking like that which becomes a slippery slope. Innocent until proven guilty. Freedom of speech.
I'm happy more people lately have realized it's okay to film injustice, it's not illegal, it's their right.
Well you were the one supporting that ridiculous anon video about starting a revolution, clearly you think things are much worse than they are
As always, I agree with how wrong it is, but also as always, the situation is ever improving, and our current situation as a society is far better than any other time in history.
Whether our situation as a society is better I'm not sold on yet. I'm not going to just ignore everything because they pat me on the butt and tell me how pretty I am and how good things are. I have my own eyes, ears, and mind.
Apocalypse? Not so much.
However, things are still going to shit in America.
And things are not improving.
The council had no authority to tell them to do anything at all.
The council are in just as much wrong as the police. That being said, the council did not lay their hands on the woman, the police did. In my opinion, while the council shouldn't be put in jail like the police should, the council should at least be fined.
All of these incidents are wake up calls for the American people.
The problem is you have a group of volunteers who make up the council basically, then you have a publicly elected voted in Mayor telling them to stop. Why in the world when legally they had no right to do so, and the only person holding a legal office in the place is saying not to, would they still do it? They have friends on the city council probably. I can't think of any rational explanation.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zejD0UkMGGY
If you actually take the time to watch this it's a very good documentary about activists in Canada who's rights are completely violated.
My thoughts exactly.
Yes, we don't behead people or pull out their intestines, but that doesn't necessarily mean we're better than our predecessors. We're still the same human race with the same fears, and, by extension of fears, motivations. Just because something isn't graphic doesn't mean it's not wrong.
With facets of the world as we know it crumbling down around us, we need to adjust to the new. Fear of the redistribution of power and wealth affects us at the macro (national and international) and micro (neighborhood and family) levels. Stringent budgets, rising crime rates, and so on are all excellent fuels for making people do horrible things.
Uncertainty with what the future holds is sometimes even more unnerving.
I'm not saying our police are nazi's Im just saying if you feel intimidated by the police you're a lot less likely to do ANYTHING considered breaking the law.
So if a cop tells you you're breaking the law, no matter if you are or not, you're more inclined to just take it, rather than oppose it and possibly get beaten.
United States 11,877,218
United Kingdom 6,523,706
Germany 6,507,394
France 3,771,850
Russia 2,952,370
Japan 2,853,739
South Africa 2,683,849
Canada 2,516,918
Italy 2,231,550
India 1,764,630
http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top-ten/countries-with-highest-reported-crime-rates.html