think about it. who has pushed the hero to do everything that has progressed the story? Cain. So then, who is responsible for the Worldstone's destruction? Cain. So in essence, the hero, the prime evils, and Tyrael are pawns to Cain.
My ideal story would have Tyrael be a big baddie in D3, and then Cain turns out to be the primest of evils in the expansion.
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somewhere on the site says cain might have been corrupted someway or another from the events, not the same twist your saying but hey its all weird stuff to me
umm i gotta disagree on that plot twist ... cmon how many plot twists we have here?? tyrael cain and many more. I dont think they can pull it off and i would hate to have to kill that old man... since he identifies items for free
think about it. who has pushed the hero to do everything that has progressed the story? Cain. So then, who is responsible for the Worldstone's destruction? Cain. So in essence, the hero, the prime evils, and Tyrael are pawns to Cain.
My ideal story would have Tyrael be a big baddie in D3, and then Cain turns out to be the primest of evils in the expansion.
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Interesting theory, but I don't see it going that way.
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I don't have much lore background, just what I remember from watching my brother beat D1 when I was seven, and my experiences beating D2 and LOD several times by myself. No books. So I'm not really making this "theory" based off of lore. It's more of my ideal "oh, that was unexpected" plot twist.
However, after reading what Raven Master posted, he seemed to be making some found points. Cain is just always in the right place at the right time without getting hurt in the process while we die 20 times AND WE'RE THE ONES WITH ARMOR AND SOWRDS AND MAGIC. He's just a frail old man. Just saying...
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I don't have much lore background, just what I remember from watching my brother beat D1 when I was seven, and my experiences beating D2 and LOD several times by myself. No books. So I'm not really making this "theory" based off of lore. It's more of my ideal "oh, that was unexpected" plot twist.
However, after reading what Raven Master posted, he seemed to be making some found points. Cain is just always in the right place at the right time without getting hurt in the process while we die 20 times AND WE'RE THE ONES WITH ARMOR AND SOWRDS AND MAGIC. He's just a frail old man. Just saying...
maybe he uses some horadric magic and tricks up his sleeve
If you read Cain's lore on Diablo3.com, apparently he, at one point, was an adventurer/warrior much like the heroes are/were. But now he's old, and I see your point. I'd imagine the reason he wasn't killed in Tristram is because since he's a Horadrim, he would have an excellent amount of knowledge that the Three could use against the High Heavens. And the reason he seems to always be in "the right place" is because his quest and yours is to destroy the Prime Evils. He would logically, being the scholar he is, want to go to the places where the Prime Evils are, I.E. where he can find out the most about them. That's my take on it.
Also, if you take the biblical story of Cain and Abel (I literally just read it to throw something into the mix) we notice that Cain is often referred to as the father of evil for being the first human to murder. Not saying that this is concrete evidence, but the whole Diablo universe loosely relates to modern religion.
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If you read Cain's lore on Diablo3.com, apparently he, at one point, was an adventurer/warrior much like the heroes are/were. But now he's old, and I see your point. I'd imagine the reason he wasn't killed in Tristram is because since he's a Horadrim, he would have an excellent amount of knowledge that the Three could use against the High Heavens. And the reason he seems to always be in "the right place" is because his quest and yours is to destroy the Prime Evils. He would logically, being the scholar he is, want to go to the places where the Prime Evils are, I.E. where he can find out the most about them. That's my take on it.
true... AND he probably wasnt killed in tristram because he would've known something about Baal And Tal Rasha maybe
I read the lore on Cain, and I found it kind of strange how self-lothing Cain seems throughout the entire journal. Assuming that the journal was a personal one and not meant to be read by anyone, I would say it does not support my idea. But if it was meant to be read, then it could be a thought out piece of mis-information meant to conceal his demonic roots.
Again, I'm just playing the devil's advocate here because I think that a cinametic where Cain goes from a hunchbacked old man with a cane (no pun intended) to a badass demon would be intense!
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actually i really think this thoery has legs to stand on. it says in the diablo 3 website that cain can not forget what befell on tristram so long ago and it still huants him, after tristram fell the first time something began turning inside him as well. something that huants his dreams every nite. in the gameplay preview you see the barbarian meet cain, we do not know if it is for the first time but we know for sure he hasnt seen cain in a long time. And if its true that he is seeing him very early in the game, you know just like in the d2 he will be there throughout ALL of it.
I stick by the side of cain turning into someone big, badass, and deadly, even for an old man
Cain is really one of the two lesser evils (forgive me for not saying which one, I'm not super clear on which one has the better position in the civil way, but whichever one that is, it is Cain). Cain will tell the hero to go on a quest to kill the other lesser evil. After this is complete, Cain will vanish, and it will seem like the increasing invaders from Hell have taken him. Tyrael will take over as your quest giver, and will direct you to combat the invading forces at the front of the invasion point. As seen in the gameplay trailers, NPCs can be recruited to help. These will be mortals at first, but the further into Hell you go, they will be replaced by angels. There will be skirmishes with both demons and rogue angels, but the final boss battle will take place in t he depths of hell in some sort of throne room. Cain will be waiting there (think Phantom of the Oprah) in human form, and the hero will be ambushed by horadric magic. Battle ensues, and when Cain is almost dead he will do a transformation (much like Diablo's when you complete Act 3) and the second half will be against the lesser evil in demon form.
EDIT: Originally I had the wrong link,
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My ideal story would have Tyrael be a big baddie in D3, and then Cain turns out to be the primest of evils in the expansion.
Can I have whatever you've been smoking?
Interesting theory, but I don't see it going that way.
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I don't have much lore background, just what I remember from watching my brother beat D1 when I was seven, and my experiences beating D2 and LOD several times by myself. No books. So I'm not really making this "theory" based off of lore. It's more of my ideal "oh, that was unexpected" plot twist.
However, after reading what Raven Master posted, he seemed to be making some found points. Cain is just always in the right place at the right time without getting hurt in the process while we die 20 times AND WE'RE THE ONES WITH ARMOR AND SOWRDS AND MAGIC. He's just a frail old man. Just saying...
maybe he uses some horadric magic and tricks up his sleeve
true... AND he probably wasnt killed in tristram because he would've known something about Baal And Tal Rasha maybe
Again, I'm just playing the devil's advocate here because I think that a cinametic where Cain goes from a hunchbacked old man with a cane (no pun intended) to a badass demon would be intense!
I stick by the side of cain turning into someone big, badass, and deadly, even for an old man
This petition is to KEEP the current art direction
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But it has words across the top, anyone know what they are?
It appears to say "System" and some other things, it's all I can make out.
Maybe it's a diagram of the waypoints or something.
Link to second part- http://www.diablofans.com/forums/showthread.php?p=265661&posted=1#post265661
Cain is really one of the two lesser evils (forgive me for not saying which one, I'm not super clear on which one has the better position in the civil way, but whichever one that is, it is Cain). Cain will tell the hero to go on a quest to kill the other lesser evil. After this is complete, Cain will vanish, and it will seem like the increasing invaders from Hell have taken him. Tyrael will take over as your quest giver, and will direct you to combat the invading forces at the front of the invasion point. As seen in the gameplay trailers, NPCs can be recruited to help. These will be mortals at first, but the further into Hell you go, they will be replaced by angels. There will be skirmishes with both demons and rogue angels, but the final boss battle will take place in t he depths of hell in some sort of throne room. Cain will be waiting there (think Phantom of the Oprah) in human form, and the hero will be ambushed by horadric magic. Battle ensues, and when Cain is almost dead he will do a transformation (much like Diablo's when you complete Act 3) and the second half will be against the lesser evil in demon form.
EDIT: Originally I had the wrong link,