I took a conduit in a 65 and took not even 20% of the boss's life. What could have happened? As the Conduit works now? Did 60 and 63 using it and the boss was destroyed quickly. Playing with Barb simply impossible to achieve kill a boss in a 65. So, ALL depends on luck in this game now? Can not create a mechanical using at least some of the brain of the player, something creative, creative items, creative challenges to not get tired so quickly? I was playing, then i got a DC then i try to kill a boss at 65 using conduit (the only way that a barbarian can kill a gr, nice mechanichs grats blizz)
I took rank 50 barbarian with 3 hours of PTR. Now come the next patch, abusers will be paragon 2000 and will not have any competitive again. After all, what sense this game? Be doing speed (usually holding a button or using two skills at most) and get infinitely XP for +5 main stat?
What is the purpose of so much shit from Blizzard?
You act like the pylon meta is something new....If your going to rank high on leader boards the name of the game has always been rift phishing and pylon hunting at the high levels. Welcome to ranking in Diablo where time invested has a direct impact on power level, as a game should be. How much skill can be involved in a game where u have 6 buttons???? Diablo games have always been a gear/level grind...Since Diablo 1. Nothing has changed quit pouting.
There wasn`t infiinite levels on other Diablo games. You don`t know what are you saying. You don`t need power and stonesinger for some classes man, like barbarian need. Wizz can do a 63 nowadays without depending on so much RNG. Just need keys and you can do it.
Also, there was a decent PvP on other diablo games, This give infinite life time do the game.
This game is so messed up that`s almost impossible to do a decent PvP.
No, I don`t. I made around 5 nice builds today. No one compares to the traditional one, that look almost like season 3 build. I really like the game, I`m just disapointed.
I took a conduit in a 65 and took not even 20% of the boss's life. What could have happened? As the Conduit works now? Did 60 and 63 using it and the boss was destroyed quickly. Playing with Barb simply impossible to achieve kill a boss in a 65. So, ALL depends on luck in this game now? Can not create a mechanical using at least some of the brain of the player, something creative, creative items, creative challenges to not get tired so quickly? I was playing, then i got a DC then i try to kill a boss at 65 using conduit (the only way that a barbarian can kill a gr, nice mechanichs grats blizz)
I took rank 50 barbarian with 3 hours of PTR. Now come the next patch, abusers will be paragon 2000 and will not have any competitive again. After all, what sense this game? Be doing speed (usually holding a button or using two skills at most) and get infinitely XP for +5 main stat?
What is the purpose of so much shit from Blizzard?
do you read the patch note before you just jump into 2.3?
here's the patch note about the conduit
Nephalem Rifts
Conduit Pylon
Duration has been increased from 15 to 30 seconds in Greater Rifts
Conduit now deals damage based on your current difficulty level or Greater Rift tier
Conduit now deals reduced damage to bosses and Rift Guardians
Yes, I read it.
I made a 60 and a 63 using conduit on boss (WOW, THE ONLY WAY THAT A FUCKING BARBARIAN CAN KILL A BOSS, NICE GAME MECHANIC) and tyhe conduit just melted the boss.
Then, I got DCED because the game was not up to date by any reason.
So, when I logged again, I reached the boss of a 65 and the conduit simple didn`t made 20% damage on boss life.
That`s why I`m asking.
Don't worry. If barb (and not your barb) can't kill a rift guardian without conduit, and conduit only kills a GR65 rift guardian for 20%, nobody will kill it, and you can compete for GR64
EVERY class has some limitations, and on the solo leaderboard you compete against your own class. So, it will still be competitive, don't worry
And yes, you will probably have to "fish for conduit", just like every class will have to fish for something to compete for the top spot.
On top of all this, barb seems to be very good in group play, so you can still rank high on the 2-4 player leaderboards (compared to other classes/in the past).
Another problem is, people don't think out of the box (or can't due to PTR lag). All barbs just keep going for WW, while blizzard is pushing hota and ss. Sadly, those builds don't really work currently because of lag, but they really have potential, also for single target.
Last but not least, most "top builds" only show up like a month after the patch goes live, or even the last day, to keep them hidden and have an advantage. So be prepared to see some really strong builds coming out
Don't worry. If barb (and not your barb) can't kill a rift guardian without conduit, and conduit only kills a GR65 rift guardian for 20%, nobody will kill it, and you can compete for GR64
EVERY class has some limitations, and on the solo leaderboard you compete against your own class. So, it will still be competitive, don't worry
And yes, you will probably have to "fish for conduit", just like every class will have to fish for something to compete for the top spot.
On top of all this, barb seems to be very good in group play, so you can still rank high on the 2-4 player leaderboards (compared to other classes/in the past).
Another problem is, people don't think out of the box (or can't due to PTR lag). All barbs just keep going for WW, while blizzard is pushing hota and ss. Sadly, those builds don't really work currently because of lag, but they really have potential, also for single target.
Last but not least, most "top builds" only show up like a month after the patch goes live, or even the last day, to keep them hidden and have an advantage. So be prepared to see some really strong builds coming out
I don`t really believe. I made top 10 NS barb and it`s fucking fucking boring fish for decent GR. Non sense man. There some things that don`t make sense. This game looks like an "frankestein", the "fixes" without any sense.
I like Chainer as streamer, and look the video that he made : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNoQ_no603A
Whats the point of that? This is a serious way to TEST THE GAME BEFORE THE NEW PATCH COMES ? Look at the GR and the Lag. Very reliable tests... LOL
You need to compare barbs to barbs, dh to dh, etc......
There is never going to be perfect balance, ever.
I would suggest not concerning yourself with top of leader-board, or top 100, but instead just make the leader-board, then have fun. This is a game, games are played to have FUN, it is a 3 letter word so many people have seemingly forgotten.
If you find yourself bitching about fun in video games, I suggest you take a break, you clearly are playing to much and need to try new and other interesting ventures in life.
Play decent videogames is my hobbie. You are just a bunch of fanboys that dont admit that the game SUCKS right now.
Cya !
I will not admit the game sucks, because it is not the truth. I will admit that once I get this sense of staleness in the game, usually around paragon 300 in the current meta, I tend to venture toward other games, and I am perfectly fine with that. Getting to paragon 300 and trying several classes usually means I get several legendary gems and 2-3 classes up to 70, playing around 55-70 hours, which really is a lot in a 3-4 month period for a busy individual.
I will also admit there is flaws, one of which is in fact phishing for pylons. But the thing is, the crew is working on a several step process to make pylons non essential in rift clearing, and as more of a fun or unique aspect of the game as they were intended to be. Rather than just up-heave the entire system however, they are doing it very wisely in several incremental steps.
That being said, 2.3 offers Kanai's cube, which sure, like everything else, D1 and D2 included is going to have a "cookie cutter" mentality that offers the "best" use of the resource. However, if you simply play for "cookie cutter" instead of "fun" you are always going to find yourself having your stale and otherwise uneventful approach toward D3, leading to you not liking the game for what it should be, and instead putting so much weight on some of the smallest aspects of the game. Like I said, do not get caught up in comparing Barb to Monk, or Barb to DH. Instead, compare several barbs and what they do to get the highest in solo play, and what they do to offer different mechanics to group play.
In 2.3 there is 4-5 worthy builds that get you right around GR60, which is exactly 3-4 more then were present in 2.2. This means that the Dev Crew understands they need to add build diversity and balance to each class. This has me extremely excited to play 2,3 and also likely means that my burnout period is going to last far longer than the typical para 300 or so in season, which I simply cannot wait for.
Play decent videogames is my hobbie. You are just a bunch of fanboys that dont admit that the game SUCKS right now.
Cya !
BNET Forum is that way >>>>>>>>
Go take a shit in their toilet of a forum. Your "style" is far more fitting there. You'll find plenty of criticism here, but we tend to do so without getting drool on our shirts.
PS: This is a FAN site. What the hell did you expect?
When i was playing d2 yea pvp was good but when the bot's started to infest it it was a joke with all this one shot hacked spells you had to cheat just to stay alive so thats why i gave up on d2 pvp ......
Any way op how can you really judge it , its not even out yet so chill out & enjoy the game, lol
So wait, I'mma take a stab at this, you cleared a GR 60 with a conduit, and then updated your PTR build, and then couldn't do more than 20% with a conduit... first, if this happened, the way you say it did, kudos for breaking the PTR long enough to abuse a conduit pylon. second, the update would have reverted the conduit to it's new state, wherein the previous was not, making the first super powered against the RG, and the second a floppy sock.
Also, the hate mongering, not needed, the game doesn't suck, you do. "To rank I have to go fishing, abusers!, LAG ON PTR NOT VALID TESTING STUFF' ... shut it. It's PTR, and it's been that way since Vanilla WoW.
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Disappointed with 2.3 atm
I took a conduit in a 65 and took not even 20% of the boss's life. What could have happened? As the Conduit works now? Did 60 and 63 using it and the boss was destroyed quickly. Playing with Barb simply impossible to achieve kill a boss in a 65. So, ALL depends on luck in this game now? Can not create a mechanical using at least some of the brain of the player, something creative, creative items, creative challenges to not get tired so quickly? I was playing, then i got a DC then i try to kill a boss at 65 using conduit (the only way that a barbarian can kill a gr, nice mechanichs grats blizz)
I took rank 50 barbarian with 3 hours of PTR. Now come the next patch, abusers will be paragon 2000 and will not have any competitive again. After all, what sense this game? Be doing speed (usually holding a button or using two skills at most) and get infinitely XP for +5 main stat?
What is the purpose of so much shit from Blizzard?
The game is really fun.
Relax. Chill out. Play.
I'm incredibly excited for 2.3, and the pulse of the players seems to reflect that.
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YOu can`t even test the fucking PTR using barb man. You lag 100% of the good rifts. This is the PTR test realm ?
You have 1000 legs, and 99% os the players will only use FURNACE, HEXING PANTS AND OBSIDIAN. The rest will be joke builds for "fun"
You lack vision.
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You act like the pylon meta is something new....If your going to rank high on leader boards the name of the game has always been rift phishing and pylon hunting at the high levels. Welcome to ranking in Diablo where time invested has a direct impact on power level, as a game should be. How much skill can be involved in a game where u have 6 buttons???? Diablo games have always been a gear/level grind...Since Diablo 1. Nothing has changed quit pouting.
There wasn`t infiinite levels on other Diablo games. You don`t know what are you saying. You don`t need power and stonesinger for some classes man, like barbarian need. Wizz can do a 63 nowadays without depending on so much RNG. Just need keys and you can do it.
Also, there was a decent PvP on other diablo games, This give infinite life time do the game.
This game is so messed up that`s almost impossible to do a decent PvP.
No, I don`t. I made around 5 nice builds today. No one compares to the traditional one, that look almost like season 3 build. I really like the game, I`m just disapointed.
do you read the patch note before you just jump into 2.3?
here's the patch note about the conduit
Nephalem Rifts
have a nice day
Yes, I read it.
I made a 60 and a 63 using conduit on boss (WOW, THE ONLY WAY THAT A FUCKING BARBARIAN CAN KILL A BOSS, NICE GAME MECHANIC) and tyhe conduit just melted the boss.
Then, I got DCED because the game was not up to date by any reason.
So, when I logged again, I reached the boss of a 65 and the conduit simple didn`t made 20% damage on boss life.
That`s why I`m asking.
Don't worry. If barb (and not your barb) can't kill a rift guardian without conduit, and conduit only kills a GR65 rift guardian for 20%, nobody will kill it, and you can compete for GR64
EVERY class has some limitations, and on the solo leaderboard you compete against your own class. So, it will still be competitive, don't worry
And yes, you will probably have to "fish for conduit", just like every class will have to fish for something to compete for the top spot.
On top of all this, barb seems to be very good in group play, so you can still rank high on the 2-4 player leaderboards (compared to other classes/in the past).
Another problem is, people don't think out of the box (or can't due to PTR lag). All barbs just keep going for WW, while blizzard is pushing hota and ss. Sadly, those builds don't really work currently because of lag, but they really have potential, also for single target.
Last but not least, most "top builds" only show up like a month after the patch goes live, or even the last day, to keep them hidden and have an advantage. So be prepared to see some really strong builds coming out
I don`t really believe. I made top 10 NS barb and it`s fucking fucking boring fish for decent GR. Non sense man. There some things that don`t make sense. This game looks like an "frankestein", the "fixes" without any sense.
I like Chainer as streamer, and look the video that he made :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNoQ_no603A
Whats the point of that? This is a serious way to TEST THE GAME BEFORE THE NEW PATCH COMES ? Look at the GR and the Lag. Very reliable tests... LOL
You need to compare barbs to barbs, dh to dh, etc......
There is never going to be perfect balance, ever.
I would suggest not concerning yourself with top of leader-board, or top 100, but instead just make the leader-board, then have fun. This is a game, games are played to have FUN, it is a 3 letter word so many people have seemingly forgotten.
If you find yourself bitching about fun in video games, I suggest you take a break, you clearly are playing to much and need to try new and other interesting ventures in life.
Good Luck moving forward!
I feel like you should've added 'my child' to the end of that =D
I will not admit the game sucks, because it is not the truth. I will admit that once I get this sense of staleness in the game, usually around paragon 300 in the current meta, I tend to venture toward other games, and I am perfectly fine with that. Getting to paragon 300 and trying several classes usually means I get several legendary gems and 2-3 classes up to 70, playing around 55-70 hours, which really is a lot in a 3-4 month period for a busy individual.
I will also admit there is flaws, one of which is in fact phishing for pylons. But the thing is, the crew is working on a several step process to make pylons non essential in rift clearing, and as more of a fun or unique aspect of the game as they were intended to be. Rather than just up-heave the entire system however, they are doing it very wisely in several incremental steps.
That being said, 2.3 offers Kanai's cube, which sure, like everything else, D1 and D2 included is going to have a "cookie cutter" mentality that offers the "best" use of the resource. However, if you simply play for "cookie cutter" instead of "fun" you are always going to find yourself having your stale and otherwise uneventful approach toward D3, leading to you not liking the game for what it should be, and instead putting so much weight on some of the smallest aspects of the game. Like I said, do not get caught up in comparing Barb to Monk, or Barb to DH. Instead, compare several barbs and what they do to get the highest in solo play, and what they do to offer different mechanics to group play.
In 2.3 there is 4-5 worthy builds that get you right around GR60, which is exactly 3-4 more then were present in 2.2. This means that the Dev Crew understands they need to add build diversity and balance to each class. This has me extremely excited to play 2,3 and also likely means that my burnout period is going to last far longer than the typical para 300 or so in season, which I simply cannot wait for.
BNET Forum is that way >>>>>>>>
Go take a shit in their toilet of a forum. Your "style" is far more fitting there. You'll find plenty of criticism here, but we tend to do so without getting drool on our shirts.
PS: This is a FAN site. What the hell did you expect?
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When i was playing d2 yea pvp was good but when the bot's started to infest it it was a joke with all this one shot hacked spells you had to cheat just to stay alive so thats why i gave up on d2 pvp ......
Any way op how can you really judge it , its not even out yet so chill out & enjoy the game, lol
One mind cannot contain all wisdom...
That one thing dont make this patch bad, look all these other cool stuff they added. I just use Conduit when i find one.
So just because you can't kill a boss with a Conduit pylon you are disappointed in patch 2.3? - Wow, such a fan of the game...
All whining that Barbarian can't kill riftboss and such, but Wizard can. Then why don't you just roll a Wizard twat..?
Geez, stop whining and get your shit together...
So wait, I'mma take a stab at this, you cleared a GR 60 with a conduit, and then updated your PTR build, and then couldn't do more than 20% with a conduit... first, if this happened, the way you say it did, kudos for breaking the PTR long enough to abuse a conduit pylon. second, the update would have reverted the conduit to it's new state, wherein the previous was not, making the first super powered against the RG, and the second a floppy sock.
Also, the hate mongering, not needed, the game doesn't suck, you do. "To rank I have to go fishing, abusers!, LAG ON PTR NOT VALID TESTING STUFF' ... shut it. It's PTR, and it's been that way since Vanilla WoW.