I used no exploits. I do T6 on my Seasons character, and I don't play anywhere near as much as many. Also, all that you've really proven is not many people do public games in general. I know I don't. It's not really that big of a deal.
OP's proof is that pugs dont like to to grifts, which is of course ignoring how many people are doing regular rifts, but you know, OP is a melodramatic crybaby.
yeah because regualar rifts are the whole point of the game right? you tell me then, what was the point in this patch if regualar rifts are being played more then greater rifts by over 40 x times the ammount of people? hmm...it wouldnt have anything to do with greater rifts being a complete joke right? and terrible mob density, and impossible to make it on the leaderboards right? regualar rifts are all thats left sadly, and im the crybaby? id say your just upset because greater rifts were a complete bust, and i forget to mention pylons and shrines that should have never made in the game in greater rifts.
funny thing is i wouldnt be suprised if they completly killed the leaderboards and remove those as well as messing up trials. good thing i dont play anymore. guess ill just wait till season 3 when the games not a complete joke and nothing but running regualar t 6 rifts just like its been for the past year now.
but hey, at least you can upgrade your gems and use them on t6 rifts which you dont even need them fr. correct e if im wrong..feel free.or better yet go ahead and insult me more if you feel you need to, im sure discovering that t 6 rifts are now the whole point in the game hurts after putting hundreds if not thousands of hours into your charcter.
Listen I am sure there was a drop off. All those people exploiting the 4 player trial Grifts looking to hit the lottery with an easy level and a spot in the top 10/20 whatever probably left or took a break until they can find an exploit next season. Then there is a huge community of players that either do different in game activities, or were never interested in abusing such mechanics. There are many who didn't touch seasons(just look at all the threads started right before the patch hit on whether or not people wanted to play seasons). There are many who just look to improve step by step, getting better gear, tweaking skills, improving team play, etc. I actually enjoy the new Grift trials, they go by quicker and are a lot more fun. I have a shot at getting on a Solo board, but my friends are mostly casuals who play the game for fun and aren't interested in squeezing every exploit to flex their epeen.
What it comes down to is fun. It is a video game, and meant to be enjoyed. You have quit multiple times so I am guessing you do not find it that fun. I actually enjoy the game, enjoy playing the actual game as coop and ARPGs are my favorite game genres. So if you aren't having fun then play something else, thats not a sarcastic snotty reply. I sincerely mean for you to go find a game you enjoy. I have an example from another game I gave up on.
Payday 2 - Loved the game. I had a group of 8 or 9 that I rotated team members with. We pushed the hardest jobs trying to find the smartest way through them all. Overkill decided to add all these changes to the game that I did not like/approve of. Changes that changed the very core of the missions, changes that I did not sign on for when I spent a lot of money to buy the game for many people. What did I do? Uninstalled. Quit. And left a post to the developers so they knew where they went wrong. And I won't be buying Payday3. There doesnt need to be multiple whine threads posted on FANSITES that accomplish very little.
And like others have stated. If you want to start threads stating you have all kinds of proof a game is dieing(these sites have heard plenty of that with WoW) then you should really for your own sake bring some actual proof. Just helping you out for your future drama threads. People will pick apart any argument that does not deliver hard factual proof.
edit - One last question. This is your breaking point? The trial rift change? Not the exploits people took to race to 70. Or the exploits to get ridiculous paragon levels. You are mad they changed the trial rifts mid season 1? If they had changed pylons mid season would that have angered you as much? I mean it means you couldn't get lucky and grab a top spot ... And yet you use the complaint that they are still there. Mucho confused
If you think that every game out there is literally Bug free / Exploit free / or Problem free for that matter. You got another thing coming. For the people that thought the exp exploit that happen not to long ago, was hoping for a rollback on it. There were probably reasons why blizzard decided not to do anything whether you agree with them or not. Don't ask me what those reasons are because I don't know. I can only guess and hope that it doesn't happen again
Listen I am sure there was a drop off. All those people exploiting the 4 player trial Grifts looking to hit the lottery with an easy level and a spot in the top 10/20 whatever probably left or took a break until they can find an exploit next season. Then there is a huge community of players that either do different in game activities, or were never interested in abusing such mechanics. There are many who didn't touch seasons(just look at all the threads started right before the patch hit on whether or not people wanted to play seasons). There are many who just look to improve step by step, getting better gear, tweaking skills, improving team play, etc. I actually enjoy the new Grift trials, they go by quicker and are a lot more fun. I have a shot at getting on a Solo board, but my friends are mostly casuals who play the game for fun and aren't interested in squeezing every exploit to flex their epeen.
What it comes down to is fun. It is a video game, and meant to be enjoyed. You have quit multiple times so I am guessing you do not find it that fun. I actually enjoy the game, enjoy playing the actual game as coop and ARPGs are my favorite game genres. So if you aren't having fun then play something else, thats not a sarcastic snotty reply. I sincerely mean for you to go find a game you enjoy. I have an example from another game I gave up on.
Payday 2 - Loved the game. I had a group of 8 or 9 that I rotated team members with. We pushed the hardest jobs trying to find the smartest way through them all. Overkill decided to add all these changes to the game that I did not like/approve of. Changes that changed the very core of the missions, changes that I did not sign on for when I spent a lot of money to buy the game for many people. What did I do? Uninstalled. Quit. And left a post to the developers so they knew where they went wrong. And I won't be buying Payday3. There doesnt need to be multiple whine threads posted on FANSITES that accomplish very little.
And like others have stated. If you want to start threads stating you have all kinds of proof a game is dieing(these sites have heard plenty of that with WoW) then you should really for your own sake bring some actual proof. Just helping you out for your future drama threads. People will pick apart any argument that does not deliver hard factual proof.
edit - One last question. This is your breaking point? The trial rift change? Not the exploits people took to race to 70. Or the exploits to get ridiculous paragon levels. You are mad they changed the trial rifts mid season 1? If they had changed pylons mid season would that have angered you as much? I mean it means you couldn't get lucky and grab a top spot ... And yet you use the complaint that they are still there. Mucho confused
its impossible to get actual proof that defines the game is dead or dying. but seeing 36 people which is less then 10 groups doing greater rifts in public games says quite i bit i think. of course people are going to argue and say they dont play public but many people do. can i give an exact number. no, i think its up to you to decide if public games are a big part of this game. im just providing numbers that are actual real numbers as to how many people are doing greater rifts "which is supposed to be the biggest thing to do in this patch" even if public games dont mean a lot, i think it means a lot seeing as how there is over 40 times more players doing regualer rifts then greater rifts. "which once again, greater rifts is the whole point to this season".
and honestly i do like this game and it is for me, but i like competing, im a competitive player. and this making everyone do 5 extra waves of trials for the same keystone is a slap in the face to anyone who is competing. it seriously makes it near impossible to get top 10 now solo or multiplayer "and i will provide actual proof to that in a few weeks maybe a month or so"
1000 people playing a game that is over 2 years old at a single time is quite good. And that is only Public games.
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OP it does sound like you care about the game but at the same time it sounds like you need a break from the game.
If you are not having fun playing the game then do something else that gives you enjoyment and come back at some other point.
I only play the game when I am in the mood to play and that is usually only for a few hours in month and I honestly do not care that much about rifts or Greater rifts or seasons.
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I am all for bashing, trash talking, trolling, flaming, what have you. But D3 is far FAR from dying. who gives a fuck about seasons. the only thing seasons is good for is starting over fresh and reliving the excitement of gearing your toon and and finding items. The leader boards are 100% useless unless you are in Hardcore.
Diablo 3 will be a game that will never die. no matter how many exploits are in the game.
Some people in my clan have never touched a public game since the game released. As for dying...hardly but there will inevitably be a drop off. Every game goes through it. People come back to see the new, play for a bit, then leave. I'll give you Warcraft for example. Some the top players in the world only play for a few weeks then they quit and wait for more new stuff or at the least significantly pull back there time investment.
PS: I have never touched seasons and may never touch seasons. Its not really my thing and i know im not the only one. An even if i did i probably wouldn't stick with it for to long...might not even reach cap.
I am all for bashing, trash talking, trolling, flaming, what have you. But D3 is far FAR from dying. who gives a fuck about seasons. the only thing seasons is good for is starting over fresh and reliving the excitement of gearing your toon and and finding items. The leader boards are 100% useless unless you are in Hardcore.
Diablo 3 will be a game that will never die. no matter how many exploits are in the game.
even if it doesnt die, they are definitly losing a lot of their players from all of this crap. and less players means less revenue for fututre expansions and this one for new players and that leads to even poorer patches this this one. my who guild left to play archeage which i thoguht was funny. nobody wants exploits and to have no chance at making top 10 leaderboards, or top 25 or top 50. people still want to compete even if its not everyone, theres a big number of people that play solely to try to make it on the leaderboards. and thats gone now. so you cant even deny they didnt lose people to that, and im sure a lot of people quit after the exp eploit as well, the trial keys were just icing on the cake for a lot of people. and i doubt many people are gonna want to come back right after that meaning season 2 wont have as many players either, and if season 2 fails as bad as season 1 personally i think the leaderboards will just be something people laugh at and not even try to compete for. and that means less revenue for future patches which means worse patches.
I am all for bashing, trash talking, trolling, flaming, what have you. But D3 is far FAR from dying. who gives a fuck about seasons. the only thing seasons is good for is starting over fresh and reliving the excitement of gearing your toon and and finding items. The leader boards are 100% useless unless you are in Hardcore.
Diablo 3 will be a game that will never die. no matter how many exploits are in the game.
even if it doesnt die, they are definitly losing a lot of their players from all of this crap. and less players means less revenue for fututre expansions and this one for new players and that leads to even poorer patches this this one. my who guild left to play archeage which i thoguht was funny. nobody wants exploits and to have no chance at making top 10 leaderboards, or top 25 or top 50. people still want to compete even if its not everyone, theres a big number of people that play solely to try to make it on the leaderboards. and thats gone now. so you cant even deny they didnt lose people to that, and im sure a lot of people quit after the exp eploit as well, the trial keys were just icing on the cake for a lot of people. and i doubt many people are gonna want to come back right after that meaning season 2 wont have as many players either, and if season 2 fails as bad as season 1 personally i think the leaderboards will just be something people laugh at and not even try to compete for. and that means less revenue for future patches which means worse patches.
IMO i think there is not that many people playing seasons. there is 17 people on my Flist online at this moment. and only 3 of them are doing seasons.
I'm rather sure that 270 people is not the sum total playing but rather those are your server. lack of critical thinking on the OP it seems. Oh, and seasons are awesome and I don't even compete on the leaderboards. It's nice to start fresh, get the new drops, and enjoy the grind again. Don't like it? Cool. Subjective reality is never objective truth however, be careful.
Seriously, the amount of times I've opened my game to public and someone who is barely geared enough for T1 joins me on a T6 run is retarded. What is the point of having random people join you when there is NO way to filter people from being able to join. Just because your sheet dps is 1m and your toughness is 10m does not mean you're good.
I would claim majority of players who play torment are doing so solo or with friends/clan members because having NO control over who joins your game (let's be real, the kick system sucks) just makes it harder than necessary.
As long as there is a small chance that I can be put into a group with people like the OP, there is no fucking way I go anywhere near pub games. Op and his kind brought this upon themselves. Let them rot and die without discussion, he thinks he knows shit and won't budge even if there is evidence that he is wrong.
Don't you just love these tin foil hat idiots that will see something and want to make a headline of it immediately? I bet the op has also seen aliens numerous times and he has proofs!
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Maybe you live in other planet cause last time i search for public games was 986 total :/ lol
Search for public gamse with the criterias: T6, Greater Rift tag, 3:32AM, on Friday 13th but only with a full moon. I bet you won't find that many games then! Point prooven!
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funny thing is i wouldnt be suprised if they completly killed the leaderboards and remove those as well as messing up trials. good thing i dont play anymore. guess ill just wait till season 3 when the games not a complete joke and nothing but running regualar t 6 rifts just like its been for the past year now.
but hey, at least you can upgrade your gems and use them on t6 rifts which you dont even need them fr. correct e if im wrong..feel free.or better yet go ahead and insult me more if you feel you need to, im sure discovering that t 6 rifts are now the whole point in the game hurts after putting hundreds if not thousands of hours into your charcter.
What it comes down to is fun. It is a video game, and meant to be enjoyed. You have quit multiple times so I am guessing you do not find it that fun. I actually enjoy the game, enjoy playing the actual game as coop and ARPGs are my favorite game genres. So if you aren't having fun then play something else, thats not a sarcastic snotty reply. I sincerely mean for you to go find a game you enjoy. I have an example from another game I gave up on.
Payday 2 - Loved the game. I had a group of 8 or 9 that I rotated team members with. We pushed the hardest jobs trying to find the smartest way through them all. Overkill decided to add all these changes to the game that I did not like/approve of. Changes that changed the very core of the missions, changes that I did not sign on for when I spent a lot of money to buy the game for many people. What did I do? Uninstalled. Quit. And left a post to the developers so they knew where they went wrong. And I won't be buying Payday3. There doesnt need to be multiple whine threads posted on FANSITES that accomplish very little.
And like others have stated. If you want to start threads stating you have all kinds of proof a game is dieing(these sites have heard plenty of that with WoW) then you should really for your own sake bring some actual proof. Just helping you out for your future drama threads. People will pick apart any argument that does not deliver hard factual proof.
edit - One last question. This is your breaking point? The trial rift change? Not the exploits people took to race to 70. Or the exploits to get ridiculous paragon levels. You are mad they changed the trial rifts mid season 1? If they had changed pylons mid season would that have angered you as much? I mean it means you couldn't get lucky and grab a top spot ... And yet you use the complaint that they are still there. Mucho confused
and honestly i do like this game and it is for me, but i like competing, im a competitive player. and this making everyone do 5 extra waves of trials for the same keystone is a slap in the face to anyone who is competing. it seriously makes it near impossible to get top 10 now solo or multiplayer "and i will provide actual proof to that in a few weeks maybe a month or so"
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OP it does sound like you care about the game but at the same time it sounds like you need a break from the game.
If you are not having fun playing the game then do something else that gives you enjoyment and come back at some other point.
I only play the game when I am in the mood to play and that is usually only for a few hours in month and I honestly do not care that much about rifts or Greater rifts or seasons.
The vast, overwhelming majority of players play in non public games, whether it's solo or group. Your numbers mean nothing.
u do it with friend, clan member and communities members
Diablo 3 will be a game that will never die. no matter how many exploits are in the game.
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Time2Kill-1230/hero/23330792
PS: I have never touched seasons and may never touch seasons. Its not really my thing and i know im not the only one. An even if i did i probably wouldn't stick with it for to long...might not even reach cap.
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Time2Kill-1230/hero/23330792
I'm rather sure that 270 people is not the sum total playing but rather those are your server. lack of critical thinking on the OP it seems. Oh, and seasons are awesome and I don't even compete on the leaderboards. It's nice to start fresh, get the new drops, and enjoy the grind again. Don't like it? Cool. Subjective reality is never objective truth however, be careful.
Seriously, the amount of times I've opened my game to public and someone who is barely geared enough for T1 joins me on a T6 run is retarded. What is the point of having random people join you when there is NO way to filter people from being able to join. Just because your sheet dps is 1m and your toughness is 10m does not mean you're good.
I would claim majority of players who play torment are doing so solo or with friends/clan members because having NO control over who joins your game (let's be real, the kick system sucks) just makes it harder than necessary.