First of this is not a QQ thread, I'm just here for people's honest opinion before I put this on blizzards forums.
I've farmed around 20 machines on mp6 since release. I have 4 hellfire rings ATM.
I always use one and find 2 others to use 1. Makes it fair right? What about the 4th person who uses none. Free ride, except if he is carrying the group of course.
My proposal. Give an additional 10% bonus if you use the machine FOR THAT PORTAL only.
If run on MP 10, give 50% drop chance of a legendary.
dude, just chillax, ride free today, pay for a buddys ride tomorrow...
Oh and Btw, i did 2 runs solo in MP6... it is a bitch, dying to kulled on 10% HP and having to re-fight alone coz there no one is there to ress you up.
So yeah, even if you do farm up the machines and open all three portal you will probably be better off for it just inviting a couple of dudes to help you out...
All I'm saying is people who open the portal should have a better chance at the organ piece for that giving portal, unlike the people "along for the ride" even though they still have a good chance at the organ.
Then don't party up with people and farm by your self since it's such a burden. How about we introduce a new feature, 100% chance a everything, you get all the loot without the grind, let me know how much faster you'll get bored with the game. Children these days piss me off... but but but what about MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Opening up the portal does not mean you've contributed more to getting the organ.
When I have keys, I purposely look for people to help me kill the bosses so I have a chance at the drop. Solo-ing the uber bosses is not nearly as efficient as having people to help. You gain by the existence of being in a party.
Since you own the keys, you get the ability to choose the party in which you open the portal for. If you want to 'get something out of farming for the keys', then thats what your getting.
I disagree with your purposal anyway. I farm keys and organs with a specific group of friends. We all put in the same amount of time and effort since we do most things together. I've been unlucky in not getting act 3 keys for a while now. I have 6 act1 keys and 5 act2 keys but 0 act3. So I haven't contributed to a portal quite as much as the other 3. Since I've helped them get every key they possess right now, do you think I should get punished for not getting the bonus?
Opening up the portal does not mean you've contributed more to getting the organ.
When I have keys, I purposely look for people to help me kill the bosses so I have a chance at the drop. Solo-ing the uber bosses is not nearly as efficient as having people to help. You gain by the existence of being in a party.
Since you own the keys, you get the ability to choose the party in which you open the portal for. If you want to 'get something out of farming for the keys', then thats what your getting.
I disagree with your purposal anyway. I farm keys and organs with a specific group of friends. We all put in the same amount of time and effort since we do most things together. I've been unlucky in not getting act 3 keys for a while now. I have 6 act1 keys and 5 act2 keys but 0 act3. So I haven't contributed to a portal quite as much as the other 3. Since I've helped them get every key they possess right now, do you think I should get punished for not getting the bonus?
Yes that's if you run it with the same people over and over. Correct.
We do get it, it's you who doesn't. When you play MULTIPLAYER GAMES and INTERACT with other people you have the CHANCE to deal with people who don't contribute to groups and or are elitist dinks such as YOU. YOU don't have to play with people and can enjoy the sweat of your brow from all that hard-work you earned by summoning portals by yourself OR you bring in some random people who help you farm faster, the drawback is not everyone may have the pieces. Deal with it or play on MP10 FFS.
FYI if you can't find one person who agrees with you, your either vastly superior minded over all of us or just plain stupid and don't see the real issue at hand (this is the more likely cause).
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Playing Diablo since 97. I know nothing and having nothing good to say, I be a troll.
Opening up the portal does not mean you've contributed more to getting the organ.
When I have keys, I purposely look for people to help me kill the bosses so I have a chance at the drop. Solo-ing the uber bosses is not nearly as efficient as having people to help. You gain by the existence of being in a party.
Since you own the keys, you get the ability to choose the party in which you open the portal for. If you want to 'get something out of farming for the keys', then thats what your getting.
I disagree with your purposal anyway. I farm keys and organs with a specific group of friends. We all put in the same amount of time and effort since we do most things together. I've been unlucky in not getting act 3 keys for a while now. I have 6 act1 keys and 5 act2 keys but 0 act3. So I haven't contributed to a portal quite as much as the other 3. Since I've helped them get every key they possess right now, do you think I should get punished for not getting the bonus?
Yes that's if you run it with the same people over and over. Correct.
But you missed my point.
If you get a bonus for opening up the portal, then your screwing unlucky ppl like me.
But the way it currently is, everyone is gaining something. You are already gaining because others are helping you kill the bosses. In fact, you can have 100 machines but they would all be useless if you can't kill the bosses. So why would you need another bonus, when they are already helping you? More often than not, if you invite others to your group and open portals for them, when they have built their machines, I'm sure they'll invite you back. Assuming your not bad at this game.
Wouldnt make more sense, and be more fun to just add a 4th portal?
Maybe has a chance at dropping all parts? or even better drops an item that can be turned into any part?
This would also help with the problem of getting too many of 1 kind of part.
Most here agree there really isnt a problem, but there are probably better or simpler ways to solve it.
Dude, i got prolly 7 machines ready in my stash, for every time you give a free ride to someone, i will give you a free ride.
That cool?
Seriously, here is simply no reason at all why I should be getting any props just because the machines are mine if we play together.
Look at it this way. You farm machines because you want the ring. You ask people to play with you because that will help achieve your goal easier.
People help you because that way they can get a ring form themselves too.
The system is all round good just as it is right now...
All I'm saying is people who open the portal should have a better chance at the organ piece for that giving portal, unlike the people "along for the ride" even though they still have a good chance at the organ.
The fundamental flaw here is that people will be fighting over who gets to use the machine. In a 4 man group, somebody is the odd man out.
I got 7 machines right now. Looking for some people that can handle MP 4-6 Ubers to join me tonight. Hit me up @ American server. I'm buyin....
I've farmed around 20 machines on mp6 since release. I have 4 hellfire rings ATM.
I always use one and find 2 others to use 1. Makes it fair right? What about the 4th person who uses none. Free ride, except if he is carrying the group of course.
My proposal. Give an additional 10% bonus if you use the machine FOR THAT PORTAL only.
If run on MP 10, give 50% drop chance of a legendary.
I think this is fair, agree or disagree?
Did you even read the post?
i do not like the bonus ideas.
I would like a reward if I open say 2 portals, or even 3.
I think there should be an added bonus if you actually farm the machines.
I see what you guys are getting at, that's not at all what I meant.
Farming these things is pointless seeing how I can just find people who suck an use there machines while I carry them.
Oh and Btw, i did 2 runs solo in MP6... it is a bitch, dying to kulled on 10% HP and having to re-fight alone coz there no one is there to ress you up.
So yeah, even if you do farm up the machines and open all three portal you will probably be better off for it just inviting a couple of dudes to help you out...
Not going to try and explain myself to monkeys.
You know, I ran ubers with a full party and I was the one not contributing machines. No one had a problem.
In another case, I contributed 2/3 machines, which means 2/4 people in the party were there to just hang out and right click. No one had a problem.
Is there a problem?
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I never stated there was a problem. I want the people who open the portals to have a better chance at getting organs pieces.
They worked for it, and should be rewarded.
This way it gives some more motive to farm keys.
I'm in no way stating the system is broken, I'm just trying to make it better.
Player 1 brings 1 machine 70% chance base +10% for opening portal
Player 2 brings 2 machines 70% chance base +10% for next 2 portals
Player 3 brings 0 - 70% chance
Player 4 brings 0 - 70% chance
I see nothing wrong with this.
When I have keys, I purposely look for people to help me kill the bosses so I have a chance at the drop. Solo-ing the uber bosses is not nearly as efficient as having people to help. You gain by the existence of being in a party.
Since you own the keys, you get the ability to choose the party in which you open the portal for. If you want to 'get something out of farming for the keys', then thats what your getting.
I disagree with your purposal anyway. I farm keys and organs with a specific group of friends. We all put in the same amount of time and effort since we do most things together. I've been unlucky in not getting act 3 keys for a while now. I have 6 act1 keys and 5 act2 keys but 0 act3. So I haven't contributed to a portal quite as much as the other 3. Since I've helped them get every key they possess right now, do you think I should get punished for not getting the bonus?
Yes that's if you run it with the same people over and over. Correct.
FYI if you can't find one person who agrees with you, your either vastly superior minded over all of us or just plain stupid and don't see the real issue at hand (this is the more likely cause).
But you missed my point.
If you get a bonus for opening up the portal, then your screwing unlucky ppl like me.
But the way it currently is, everyone is gaining something. You are already gaining because others are helping you kill the bosses. In fact, you can have 100 machines but they would all be useless if you can't kill the bosses. So why would you need another bonus, when they are already helping you? More often than not, if you invite others to your group and open portals for them, when they have built their machines, I'm sure they'll invite you back. Assuming your not bad at this game.
We get your point. It's just that it looks like nobody agrees with it.
Maybe has a chance at dropping all parts? or even better drops an item that can be turned into any part?
This would also help with the problem of getting too many of 1 kind of part.
Most here agree there really isnt a problem, but there are probably better or simpler ways to solve it.
That cool?
Seriously, here is simply no reason at all why I should be getting any props just because the machines are mine if we play together.
Look at it this way. You farm machines because you want the ring. You ask people to play with you because that will help achieve your goal easier.
People help you because that way they can get a ring form themselves too.
The system is all round good just as it is right now...
The fundamental flaw here is that people will be fighting over who gets to use the machine. In a 4 man group, somebody is the odd man out.
I got 7 machines right now. Looking for some people that can handle MP 4-6 Ubers to join me tonight. Hit me up @ American server. I'm buyin....
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