the game is not broken, it is working exactly how it was designed to. allowing chinese farmers to bot and forcing you guys to buy upgrades through RMAH. genius, if you ask me.
I have to agree with those that say the AH is NOT a problem. I enjoy the convenience of the AH rather than sitting in a chat channel all day or visiting a third party site that may be unsecure.
Now, as for the number of upgrades (or quality items in general) I find for the amount of time I put in....
the game is not broken, it is working exactly how it was designed to. allowing chinese farmers to bot and forcing you guys to buy upgrades through RMAH. genius, if you ask me.
I have not used the RMAH myself for upgrades. From the research I have done for upgrades on all my toons all the best items still can be found of the GAH. In my case all the gear on my toons is a such that I am not going to spend real money for something that is a very slight upgrade.
The story is completely correct about the AH being a problem, but it is far from the only problem. I played for the first time in over a month and couldn't even stay interested for 30 minutes. I don't think I will ever log in or visit this site again. Time to move on.
The thing is, you could always have a goal in D2. Like, get more MF for my MF sorc, or more DPS gear for my PVPbowzon, or increase that DPS on my Javazon so she could grind all the way to 99.
In D3, I got the MF cap, I got 90k dps with 800 AR. Thanks to AH, I got all the gear I needed in 3 months, instead of a year.
Err what now? Just farm gold to what? Farm gold? My gold is pushing 300 mil, and there's nothing to buy, why would I spent 200million on +10 int to a slot. I could buy more gear for my Barb, but what for? To do the same thing my wiz does, farm act3? Why?
And like the guy above said all the cool little things that kept farming from becoming a snorefest, like loot-pinata bosses, and horadic cube gambling, and leveling up all the way to 99.
The thing is, you could always have a goal in D2. Like, get more MF for my MF sorc, or more DPS gear for my PVPbowzon, or increase that DPS on my Javazon so she could grind all the way to 99.
In D3, I got the MF cap, I got 90k dps with 800 AR. Thanks to AH, I got all the gear I needed in 3 months, instead of a year.
Err what now? Just farm gold to what? Farm gold? My gold is pushing 300 mil, and there's nothing to buy, why would I spent 200million on +10 int to a slot. I could buy more gear for my Barb, but what for? To do the same thing my wiz does, farm act3? Why?
And like the guy above said all the cool little things that kept farming from becoming a snorefest, like loot-pinata bosses, and horadic cube gambling, and leveling up all the way to 99.
Read the whole thread it's been noted there is lacking end game (among many others). If you want something else to do play hardcore or start a new character that never uses the AH or just take a break and play something else.
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If you are complaining about nothing to do and you have only leveled one character to 60 then it's time to take a break from the game. There are four other classes you could be dinking around on and, if it's your cup of tea, hardcore mode.
Read the whole thread it's been noted there is lacking end game (among many others). If you want something else to do play hardcore or start a new character that never uses the AH or just take a break and play something else.
No, it's far more fun to troll forums constantly and whine about shit that Blizzard has already said they want to fix. THE FIXES ARE NOT HERE YESTERDAY THEREFORE BLIZZARD IS FAIL.
Also, the XFire statistic? XFire was causing the D3 client to crash. That's why D3 populations according to XFire dropped off. People couldn't play D3 while running XFire.
That alone makes the OpEd tenuous because it seems that his entire argument is based on the fact that there was a massive dropoff which he wrongly attributed to people disliking the game. The XFire dropoff was entirely due to a technical problem. It has very little to do with people liking or disliking the game. It has everything to do with overlays and D3 not playing together well.
This is a documented issue. Failure to include this in said article is rather telling of the editorial process at The Escapist. Apparently people can make any claims they want and publish an editorial there and there is no process that ensures that the most basic of facts are sourced properly. Anyone who did a quick Google search for "xfire d3 client crash" would be able to figure out exactly why there was such a severe dropoff in xfire numbers.
The information isn't hiding, it's just that people don't want to be objective.
I'm not going to say that D3 doesn't have problems. Of course it does. But it's journalistically irresponsible to not properly investigate your claims. I realize that editorials are not necessarily journalistically-sound documents, and that's probably yet another reason that everything you read on the internet should be taken with a grain of salt.
I don't keep up with all the forum posts and blue talk. I've been paying more attention lately because of 1.0.4. This caught my eye because...
I've had the exact same experience as the writer of this article and agree with his 'problem' analysis. I'm not sure what the fix is though. It's kinda nice to know others have this issue.
In addition to his experience, I've struggled to grow my gold and finally hit a point where farming to buy the next upgrade on the AH was just too much... work. My gold was depleted from buying items on the AH and dying trying to make progress. I'm sure dying is mostly my fault. It's hard to shake the Blue posts from the past that say, "...You're gonna die a lot in inferno..."
I'm a fan and would like to play more, but I've quit playing my WD (ActIII Inferno). Maybe once a week I play a HC Barb.
And for the final personal vent...
Pre release, Blizzard touted the fact that the game had been in development for so long (10y?). The story, graphics, and general game play are great; but don't make me wait that long and then turn me away in 170+ hours. Hindsight 20/20, right...?
I don't keep up with all the forum posts and blue talk. I've been paying more attention lately because of 1.0.4. This caught my eye because...
I've had the exact same experience as the writer of this article and agree with his 'problem' analysis. I'm not sure what the fix is though. It's kinda nice to know others have this issue.
In addition to his experience, I've struggled to grow my gold and finally hit a point where farming to buy the next upgrade on the AH was just too much... work. My gold was depleted from buying items on the AH and dying trying to make progress. I'm sure dying is mostly my fault. It's hard to shake the Blue posts from the past that say, "...You're gonna die a lot in inferno..."
I'm a fan and would like to play more, but I've quit playing my WD (ActIII Inferno). Maybe once a week I play a HC Barb.
And for the final personal vent...
Pre release, Blizzard touted the fact that the game had been in development for so long (10y?). The story, graphics, and general game play are great; but don't make me wait that long and then turn me away in 170+ hours. Hindsight 20/20, right...?
5 years and how many hours did you put on the D2 release before getting fed up? I bet less than 170.
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Xfire numbers may have an explanation, but the other links? Really?
It doesn't matter to me. I want objective reporting and the way he used the XFire numbers as the backbone of his argument calls into question any degree of objectiveness he might have had.
It's like a reporter claiming that the Yankees are the best baseball team ever but not disclosing that they're sleeping with Derek Jeter. Even small inaccuracies call into question the veracity of the rest of the statements.
Do I think everyone who purchased D3 is still playing it? No. I'm not a lunatic.
Do I think that 80% gave up on it? No. In fact there was some proof on the b.net forums that several people who were very adamant that they quit the game because Blizzard/D3 sucks, etc., etc., etc. were proven to be liars when the D3 armory went live. I think most people who are playing D3 are playing fewer hours per week and probably fewer days per week, but that's the status quo for Diablo titles and any other similar game.
I think there are a very vocal group of people, maybe 250-500k strong who would lead us to believe they are the majority. Bear in mind that Blizzard has publically stated numerous times throughout the lifespan of WoW that a small minority of players who play the game are actually posting on the forums. It stands to reason that people who are not posting on the forums have either silently quit or are still playing. Either way it's a very different picture from the people who are ranting and raving and making skewed OpEd pieces like this guy.
Furthermore, his OpEd was posted on August 8th.... after Blizzard had been working on this 1.0.4 presumably for about a month. His article would have been much more relevant mid-June. Posting that 6 weeks later, though, is just rehashing a bunch of shit we have been through before and much of which Blizzard has committed to fixing.
Instead of looking to the past to whine he could have looked to the future and been constructive.
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I mean as a bit of anecdotal brain exercises.
There were two people on my friends list who quit D3 within two weeks because it didn't have Recount/WoL and they couldn't brag about their in-game performance. Now, I know people like that are NOT the majority of people who have quit the game, but can we at least agree that some people are quitting for completely ridiculous reasons that true Diablo fans are better off if Blizzard doesn't address?
I mean at some point the complaints become entirely irrational. People who want to lord their leet in-game (ie: not character sheet) DEEPS over people are never going to be pleased with D3. We can at least agree that those two players lost are better off forgotten, right?
Why is ppl comparing D3 with D2 and at the result of that comparison make conclusions?, its absurd.
I never played D2 online, I only played singleplayer, why?, dont know, in that kind of games I like to play alone, and I had LOTS of fun, I even could make some nice runewords on my javazon (after a long time of playing, of course).
I really do want to play D3, Im actually going to play it once 1.04 is alive, there are a lots of new stuff im interested in testing out, but I think, that after some days or weeks, Ill stop playing it. That didnt hapen in D2, why?, is what Im trying to understand.
The thing is, you could always have a goal in D2. Like, get more MF for my MF sorc, or more DPS gear for my PVPbowzon, or increase that DPS on my Javazon so she could grind all the way to 99.
In D3, I got the MF cap, I got 90k dps with 800 AR. Thanks to AH, I got all the gear I needed in 3 months, instead of a year.
Err what now? Just farm gold to what? Farm gold? My gold is pushing 300 mil, and there's nothing to buy, why would I spent 200million on +10 int to a slot. I could buy more gear for my Barb, but what for? To do the same thing my wiz does, farm act3? Why?
And like the guy above said all the cool little things that kept farming from becoming a snorefest, like loot-pinata bosses, and horadic cube gambling, and leveling up all the way to 99.
If you are sitting on 300million gold (bullshit) then why not hook paypal to your Battle.net account and sell it on RMAH and make some $$ off a video game? I have sold nearly 100mil gold on RMAH so far, I love making money playing a video game.
Why is ppl comparing D3 with D2 and at the result of that comparison make conclusions?, its absurd.
I never played D2 online, I only played singleplayer, why?, dont know, in that kind of games I like to play alone, and I had LOTS of fun, I even could make some nice runewords on my javazon (after a long time of playing, of course).
I really do want to play D3, Im actually going to play it once 1.04 is alive, there are a lots of new stuff im interested in testing out, but I think, that after some days or weeks, Ill stop playing it. That didnt hapen in D2, why?, is what Im trying to understand.
Absurd? The endgame of both games is the exact same -pvp. You farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger.
What is so absurb about this comparison? You think D2 had more of this than D3? Are you going to claim the differences is runes? Because that would be absurd since runes and charms only appeared post expansion, as they likely will with D3. Rose tinted nostalgia glasses FTL IMO.
"In my nearly 100 hours playing Inferno (which have been almost exclusively in Acts I & II)" "Sure, I also gathered about 15 million gold during the same stretch - enough to upgrade perhaps three of the thirteen items that just one of my characters uses via the Auction House"
Spending 5 million on a single piece of gear is completely unnecessary, unless he was just that bad of a player, was very inexperienced with the ah, or is simply exaggerating.
"In my nearly 100 hours playing Inferno (which have been almost exclusively in Acts I & II)" "Sure, I also gathered about 15 million gold during the same stretch - enough to upgrade perhaps three of the thirteen items that just one of my characters uses via the Auction House"
Spending 5 million on a single piece of gear is completely unnecessary, unless he was just that bad of a player, was very inexperienced with the ah, or is simply exaggerating.
"In my nearly 100 hours playing Inferno (which have been almost exclusively in Acts I & II)" "Sure, I also gathered about 15 million gold during the same stretch - enough to upgrade perhaps three of the thirteen items that just one of my characters uses via the Auction House"
Spending 5 million on a single piece of gear is completely unnecessary, unless he was just that bad of a player, was very inexperienced with the ah, or is simply exaggerating.
You must be a wizard or demon hunter.
My barb started act3 (s/b revenge, not tornado build), completed it, and moved into act4 without spending more than 6mil. He speaks the truth. The only way 15mil would only buy three items is if you were aiming for an act3 farming set. I dare say that was intended to be a very high benchmark and something that appears to be coming down with the next patch's nerfs to affixes and elite pack hp.
"In my nearly 100 hours playing Inferno (which have been almost exclusively in Acts I & II)" "Sure, I also gathered about 15 million gold during the same stretch - enough to upgrade perhaps three of the thirteen items that just one of my characters uses via the Auction House"
Spending 5 million on a single piece of gear is completely unnecessary, unless he was just that bad of a player, was very inexperienced with the ah, or is simply exaggerating.
You must be a wizard or demon hunter.
or a monk, or Barbarian, (im to sleepy to find the WD one) but you don't need to spend lots of money on gear. you can even spend no money, it just takes a rather...... long.. time, but by all means it can be done (and people have).
It's just all about how fast you want to get done.
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Now, as for the number of upgrades (or quality items in general) I find for the amount of time I put in....
I have not used the RMAH myself for upgrades. From the research I have done for upgrades on all my toons all the best items still can be found of the GAH. In my case all the gear on my toons is a such that I am not going to spend real money for something that is a very slight upgrade.
In D3, I got the MF cap, I got 90k dps with 800 AR. Thanks to AH, I got all the gear I needed in 3 months, instead of a year.
Err what now? Just farm gold to what? Farm gold? My gold is pushing 300 mil, and there's nothing to buy, why would I spent 200million on +10 int to a slot. I could buy more gear for my Barb, but what for? To do the same thing my wiz does, farm act3? Why?
And like the guy above said all the cool little things that kept farming from becoming a snorefest, like loot-pinata bosses, and horadic cube gambling, and leveling up all the way to 99.
Read the whole thread it's been noted there is lacking end game (among many others). If you want something else to do play hardcore or start a new character that never uses the AH or just take a break and play something else.
No, it's far more fun to troll forums constantly and whine about shit that Blizzard has already said they want to fix. THE FIXES ARE NOT HERE YESTERDAY THEREFORE BLIZZARD IS FAIL.
Also, the XFire statistic? XFire was causing the D3 client to crash. That's why D3 populations according to XFire dropped off. People couldn't play D3 while running XFire.
http://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Diablo_III#Overlays
That alone makes the OpEd tenuous because it seems that his entire argument is based on the fact that there was a massive dropoff which he wrongly attributed to people disliking the game. The XFire dropoff was entirely due to a technical problem. It has very little to do with people liking or disliking the game. It has everything to do with overlays and D3 not playing together well.
This is a documented issue. Failure to include this in said article is rather telling of the editorial process at The Escapist. Apparently people can make any claims they want and publish an editorial there and there is no process that ensures that the most basic of facts are sourced properly. Anyone who did a quick Google search for "xfire d3 client crash" would be able to figure out exactly why there was such a severe dropoff in xfire numbers.
The information isn't hiding, it's just that people don't want to be objective.
I'm not going to say that D3 doesn't have problems. Of course it does. But it's journalistically irresponsible to not properly investigate your claims. I realize that editorials are not necessarily journalistically-sound documents, and that's probably yet another reason that everything you read on the internet should be taken with a grain of salt.
I've had the exact same experience as the writer of this article and agree with his 'problem' analysis. I'm not sure what the fix is though. It's kinda nice to know others have this issue.
In addition to his experience, I've struggled to grow my gold and finally hit a point where farming to buy the next upgrade on the AH was just too much... work. My gold was depleted from buying items on the AH and dying trying to make progress. I'm sure dying is mostly my fault. It's hard to shake the Blue posts from the past that say, "...You're gonna die a lot in inferno..."
I'm a fan and would like to play more, but I've quit playing my WD (ActIII Inferno). Maybe once a week I play a HC Barb.
And for the final personal vent...
Pre release, Blizzard touted the fact that the game had been in development for so long (10y?). The story, graphics, and general game play are great; but don't make me wait that long and then turn me away in 170+ hours. Hindsight 20/20, right...?
5 years and how many hours did you put on the D2 release before getting fed up? I bet less than 170.
It doesn't matter to me. I want objective reporting and the way he used the XFire numbers as the backbone of his argument calls into question any degree of objectiveness he might have had.
It's like a reporter claiming that the Yankees are the best baseball team ever but not disclosing that they're sleeping with Derek Jeter. Even small inaccuracies call into question the veracity of the rest of the statements.
Do I think everyone who purchased D3 is still playing it? No. I'm not a lunatic.
Do I think that 80% gave up on it? No. In fact there was some proof on the b.net forums that several people who were very adamant that they quit the game because Blizzard/D3 sucks, etc., etc., etc. were proven to be liars when the D3 armory went live. I think most people who are playing D3 are playing fewer hours per week and probably fewer days per week, but that's the status quo for Diablo titles and any other similar game.
I think there are a very vocal group of people, maybe 250-500k strong who would lead us to believe they are the majority. Bear in mind that Blizzard has publically stated numerous times throughout the lifespan of WoW that a small minority of players who play the game are actually posting on the forums. It stands to reason that people who are not posting on the forums have either silently quit or are still playing. Either way it's a very different picture from the people who are ranting and raving and making skewed OpEd pieces like this guy.
Furthermore, his OpEd was posted on August 8th.... after Blizzard had been working on this 1.0.4 presumably for about a month. His article would have been much more relevant mid-June. Posting that 6 weeks later, though, is just rehashing a bunch of shit we have been through before and much of which Blizzard has committed to fixing.
Instead of looking to the past to whine he could have looked to the future and been constructive.
EDIT
I mean as a bit of anecdotal brain exercises.
There were two people on my friends list who quit D3 within two weeks because it didn't have Recount/WoL and they couldn't brag about their in-game performance. Now, I know people like that are NOT the majority of people who have quit the game, but can we at least agree that some people are quitting for completely ridiculous reasons that true Diablo fans are better off if Blizzard doesn't address?
I mean at some point the complaints become entirely irrational. People who want to lord their leet in-game (ie: not character sheet) DEEPS over people are never going to be pleased with D3. We can at least agree that those two players lost are better off forgotten, right?
I never played D2 online, I only played singleplayer, why?, dont know, in that kind of games I like to play alone, and I had LOTS of fun, I even could make some nice runewords on my javazon (after a long time of playing, of course).
I really do want to play D3, Im actually going to play it once 1.04 is alive, there are a lots of new stuff im interested in testing out, but I think, that after some days or weeks, Ill stop playing it. That didnt hapen in D2, why?, is what Im trying to understand.
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If you are sitting on 300million gold (bullshit) then why not hook paypal to your Battle.net account and sell it on RMAH and make some $$ off a video game? I have sold nearly 100mil gold on RMAH so far, I love making money playing a video game.
Absurd? The endgame of both games is the exact same -pvp. You farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger to farm for more gear to get stronger.
What is so absurb about this comparison? You think D2 had more of this than D3? Are you going to claim the differences is runes? Because that would be absurd since runes and charms only appeared post expansion, as they likely will with D3. Rose tinted nostalgia glasses FTL IMO.
Spending 5 million on a single piece of gear is completely unnecessary, unless he was just that bad of a player, was very inexperienced with the ah, or is simply exaggerating.
You must be a wizard or demon hunter.
My barb started act3 (s/b revenge, not tornado build), completed it, and moved into act4 without spending more than 6mil. He speaks the truth. The only way 15mil would only buy three items is if you were aiming for an act3 farming set. I dare say that was intended to be a very high benchmark and something that appears to be coming down with the next patch's nerfs to affixes and elite pack hp.
or a monk, or Barbarian, (im to sleepy to find the WD one) but you don't need to spend lots of money on gear. you can even spend no money, it just takes a rather...... long.. time, but by all means it can be done (and people have).
It's just all about how fast you want to get done.