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While I will give the OP props for making an effort to teach him/herself some pricing ballparks, the spreadsheet should stay a personal tool. If it helps someone to understand certain breakpoints in value for affixes, then great. But for the community, it's teaching a fundamental lesson in a very destructive way.

Yes, people will learn a little bit about valuation. Current valuation. Filtered through one person's subjective filtering of the AH and one person's toons, skill builds and items they've researched. Others will NOT learn how to do it themselves as a repeatable skill. Basically, it gives them a single fish, but doesn't teach them how to fish for themselves.

By learning guidelines and theories and not specific minimums, people will be prepared to price items on their own, in perpetuity.

I do pricing videos on Youtube and it's all about teaching methodologies through many, many examples. It's not about a snapshot of an economy and deducing rules from an all-too-small sample size. When you understand the 'why' of something, you'll be better off.

As the game changes (patch changes, skill changes, content changes, itemization changes, proc introductions, pvp implementation, etc) there will be big swings in gear valuation. A spreadsheet won't help you at all in these situations. But if you understand the audience, the buyer, then you'll understand their needs as a gearset (not a single piece, but overall needs and how to strategically arrange them). Then you can identify areas to exploit and increase your profit.

Just because it's a game doesn't mean it doesn't take work.

I'm not the best or the richest, but I do have a top tier character (according to diabloprogress) and well over 2 billion in gear and gold and a steady cash-out through the RMAH with never a $ put in. And I average three hours a day. It's not because I was lucky with drops. It's from understanding economies. This isn't fun for everyone, nor should it be.

But if you love the game, any game with an economy/AH, then you owe it to yourself to learn more. You only have to learn it once. That knowledge will crossover to any other game economy. A spreadsheet will only teach you a sliver of information about one game. Completely insulated information.

Gameplay and net worth in-game are not mutually exclusive activities

(sorry for the long post, bored on my lunch break)

Quote from PsyBomb

Manticore: up to 100% native crit damage, plus 200% more if you get a 2-socket. Plus 50% for Archery passive
100% on amulet
50% on gloves
50% on each ring (total 100%)
50% native.
650% bonus crit damage possible.

Sorry but you're wrong. Amulets cap at 65% and rings at 35%. AND you aren't even factoring in Witching Hour legendary belt that can give you another 50%.

They said feedback has changed since Beta.... there's an obvious reason for this. In beta, you have a more intelligent population, aware of game mechanics and balancing for long-term playability. In the current population, let's just say the bar is lowered.

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The price of gaming at PC Bang is irrelevant unless you live there, gaming prices local to you are.

Actually the price of a PC Room is relevant, since Korea is the only place offering the xp bonus. I was replying to the poster who asked if it was worth it to pay for the bonus... No one was talking about other public gaming venues. Maybe read the whole thread? It's only a dozen :).

would you actually pay to play at a LAN café for 25% mf/xp?


Do you realize that a PC Bang is about $0.60 / hour? They all have very nice 24" IPS monitors and fast machines with gaming keyboards and mice. It's a very popular and cultural aspect here in Korea, since it's cheaper than having a gaming PC at home.

I'm an American living in Korea. I'd love to take advantage of the 25% exp bonus, but PC Bangs are definitely not worth it. Public smoking laws aren't enforced (like ever) and computer rooms reek of smoke. I don't think the bonus in D3 is worth the loss in reality.

I am interested to know how long this 'limited time event' is though. It'd be curious if a Korean player started to pull ahead in the Paragon race when you factor in 75% NV + 31% Ruby + 30% Leoric's Signet + 6% Follower's Leoric's Signet + 25% PC Bang = 167% exp.

If he doesn't, I'd be interested.

Found the Chantodo's Force! Now just looking for a Mempo of Twilight with Int. and Crit Chance.

Also possibly in the market for a nice Zunimassa's Pox with Crit Chance.

US server, normal difficulty. Very willing to negotiate. I know without crit it isn't desirable to everyone, but the raw numbers are crazy. Currently the highest dps LoH weapon on the AH.

Glory Bane
Mighty Weapon
1.30 Attacks/second
1171 wpds
176 Dex
935 Life on Hit

I'm looking for:

Chantodo's Force with Arcane Power on Crit

Mempo Twilight with Intelligence and Crit Chance

I'm very aware of the going rates and have plenty of profit sitting in both gold and RM auctions houses, ready to be spent :).

Get in touch! Thanks
Aarondf#1632

Paragon 16 and nothing yet. Before the patch, I got 2-4 legendaries by the time I'd fill my stash with items - consistently. So just a horrible run of probability so far.

Many of you have stated that there needs to be more to the game than just the item hunt, and we agree completely.

Sales mean nothing if the game doesn’t live on in all of our hearts, and standing by our games is what Blizzard does. Patch 1.0.4 is a step in the right direction, but we have no illusions that our work is done.

'players 8' command -- ... to allow players to make up their own minds about how hard or how easy is right for them.

^^

Everything we want to hear is being said. I really, really hope this follows through to actual implementation. It's been said before.

On a side note, the structure of this statement makes it incredibly clear how the PR liason helped craft this mission statement. It's pretty textbook. (Acknowledge mistake, supply defense, supply personal emotional background shifting the aggressor into a defender, address a desire to solve issues without locking into real answers, and finally, come full circle and repeat the apology and thematic statement) There's nothing wrong with this, everyone in a corporate or political setting does it. It's just funny that we've socially come far enough to see through the process :).

All in all, a needed communication. It wouldn't have sat right to let 1.0.4 sweep the incident under the rug. Thanks for talking to us and keep it going!

Quote from Richtko

How do you check exp and how long is it takin you guys to lvl up? I'm at about 95% to lvl 1 on 3 vault runs or about an hour.

Look at your experience bar? lol Write the number down when you start and when you finish. Subtract.

I think everyone could benefit from some data here. If people would like to reply with their findings, please include:

• Which Act
• 31% Ruby Yes/No
• Time / run
• Exp / run

I only had time for 2 runs before work today, but here are my first results. My times include going back to town and ID'ing items.

Act I (almost all zones)
Ruby: Yes (106% exp including NV stacks)
Run #1: 70 minutes, 14,323,000 exp
Run #2: 75 minutes, 14,070,000 exp

My hope is to get a clearer picture of how much Exp vs Time difference there is between Inferno Acts.

Good luck grinding all!

Quote from pernunz

[What? No. it's the exact opposite. Once you hit, say, level 75 Paragon, you have 225 base MF. You can get 31MF by putting a Topaz in your helmet, bringing your base MF up to 256, ignoring any other MF stats you have on other gear.

MF Gear is still valuable in the early levels of Paragon, but once you hit 100, MF (and GF) is a stat you don't want on your gear, because the additional slot can be used for another buff.

You missed the point entirely. Please try reading it again lol.

As the Paragon levels increase, the time spent grinding each successive level gets significantly longer. Mob exp stays the same. At best you're killing the same Act III/Act IV mobs over and over for higher required Paragon level dings. As the leveling process gets longer, you're seeing a higher return on your investment in the form of TIME from the 31% exp gem than you did at earlier Paragon levels. This, like I said, is completely separate from your motivation to choose MF.