I don't want to be a grumbletrousers, but I just don't see the point of "Inferno is kicking my ass" posts that don't mention the relevant stats (DPS/vit/armor/RA).
If you've jumped into Inferno with 10k DPS, 20k HP, 2k armor and <100 RA... you're going to have a bad time.
/ski_instructor
I got base dps around 16k and 34k with SS. Armor is around 2200. Res are around 200. HP is 14k.
I usually get 1-2 hit lol.
Maybe I just using wrong skills and need to improve my game.
16k unbuffed seems incredibly low. No one is expecting you to walk into inferno with 50k+ dps unbuffed (unless this was your "alt") but I'm going to presume that either your weapon is sub 60 or your stats (dex, crit damage/chance, ias, etc.) is way low.
I would like to think items are much more accessible now, too than when I hit 60 (first week of launch). It might be a bit tough, I don't know how your gold (USD? if you use RMAH) situation is, but even getting it to 30k--which should not be hard or cost much, will help you tremendously.
it's so funny, reading ppl who think that diablo 3 should be played as glass cannon... it's already boring to farm act3 all over again ( since act 4 is bugged, stacks don't work on izual, not worth farming only diablo) plus you die from every single fireball, white goblin, lance or soul rippers/ frogs in icefall caverns.. how this should be funny? only to see 8467035 yellow crit, aka athene style?
I think you're getting the wrong impression of the posts. Think of it this way--if one could pump out the damage, while surviving a few hits, who wouldn't want to do it? The problem is the lucky few that actually get a perfectly itemized piece to drop is gouging prices for at least $50 USD minimum on the RMAH or 10m+ on the Gold AH. No one probably *wants* or *prefers* to do the glass cannon method, but it really is the cheapest way of acquiring gear to farm inferno at the moment.
If you think about it, a glass cannon build is in fact, essentially a perfectly itemized build, minus the vitality and resist stats (thus, saving the player millions or dollars). Once the patch hits and if blizzard is rightfully claiming that players *should* be able to farm their own gear at a better pace, I think you'll see many glass cannons switch to the ideal build--not to mention I'm sure we'd all be tired of losing 100,000 gold to repairs only to get a crappy blue from a rare pack .
If melee classes are capable of doing glass cannon, you bet their asses that many more barbs and monks would be going that route. It's not a matter of glass cannon being the 'superior' or 'right' way to play, it's the more realistic way for players who simply cannot drop several millions on a whim without flinching. I know for a fact that my income per week would be far lower if I could not farm act 3 and beyond for ilevel 63 gear, because let's be honest--no one wants to buy that 200dps level 52 yellow from act 1 anymore, nor the 800dps 2h you get in act II. It's a shame, but everyone would rather stomach their grind and get that 1000+ dps weapon to make their life easier, than to settle for anything less if they can help it.
So Blizzard intended for half of our defensive abilities to be useless? We should just use ss everything? Glass cannon was the way to go to beat the game fast, yes. In the long term stats such as all resist, armor, vitality, should not be ignored.
Well, people can complain about how broken or overpowered DH's are on the official forums, but we don't get a passive resist buff (monk's conversion of one to all, or barb's resist shout) nor do we get the mitigation that wizard's get. SS is basically our only absorption skill with vault and shadow power being our semi-oh-crap keys. We SS everything in the same way that just about every barb uses their buff shout, every monk uses that one conversion talent (not sure on this TBH). At the moment--yes most of our abilities are in fact 'useless'.
In order to use resist gear, you need REALLY good resist gear--I'm talking ideally 150+ dex on the piece along with vit, resist, and the random 4th beneficial stat. I tried using my monk's resist set and it was not cutting it. I lost at least 700-800 dex (I think I dropped down to 1200-1300) and I lost a crap ton of IAS, crit chance, and crit damage. Sure, I could take a few hits to the face in the later acts--but my dps was so crap that I couldn't survive long enough regardless.
It's also the most efficient way (as of this posting) to farm elite packs for the gear you need or want to sell. Unless you're are one of the very few who can spend several million on pieces that has an ample amount of dex, vit, resist, and crit chance/crit dmg/ias--it's far cheaper to gear a 1700~2000 dex build glass canon versus a 1700~2000 vitality/resist build. Do they exist out there? Sure--I've seen someone post on Reddit and other forums, but they claimed they spent an upwards of at least 30million, and this was before the inflation hit.
Let's presume with the inflation that you need to spend at least 30million minimum (previous value) and you need to spend an upwards of 50million for the best pieces (total). You have to ask yourself--how much farming will you need to do in order to obtain that amount, and then how much farming would you need to do in order to cut your losses, AND profit as well? I've been able to consistently farm Act 3, some of Act 4, and Whimseyshire and it's not like I'm getting 1200+ dps weapons and perfectly itemized armor pieces dropping left and right.
I'll be interested to see how drop rates are changed post patch, as well as how badly mobs are nerfed. It's true with the increased amount of repair bills that glass canon builds will be less desirable, so I have in fact been keeping any perfectly itemized dex/vit/resist pieces I find to myself as of late.
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16k unbuffed seems incredibly low. No one is expecting you to walk into inferno with 50k+ dps unbuffed (unless this was your "alt") but I'm going to presume that either your weapon is sub 60 or your stats (dex, crit damage/chance, ias, etc.) is way low.
I would like to think items are much more accessible now, too than when I hit 60 (first week of launch). It might be a bit tough, I don't know how your gold (USD? if you use RMAH) situation is, but even getting it to 30k--which should not be hard or cost much, will help you tremendously.
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I think you're getting the wrong impression of the posts. Think of it this way--if one could pump out the damage, while surviving a few hits, who wouldn't want to do it? The problem is the lucky few that actually get a perfectly itemized piece to drop is gouging prices for at least $50 USD minimum on the RMAH or 10m+ on the Gold AH. No one probably *wants* or *prefers* to do the glass cannon method, but it really is the cheapest way of acquiring gear to farm inferno at the moment.
If you think about it, a glass cannon build is in fact, essentially a perfectly itemized build, minus the vitality and resist stats (thus, saving the player millions or dollars). Once the patch hits and if blizzard is rightfully claiming that players *should* be able to farm their own gear at a better pace, I think you'll see many glass cannons switch to the ideal build--not to mention I'm sure we'd all be tired of losing 100,000 gold to repairs only to get a crappy blue from a rare pack .
If melee classes are capable of doing glass cannon, you bet their asses that many more barbs and monks would be going that route. It's not a matter of glass cannon being the 'superior' or 'right' way to play, it's the more realistic way for players who simply cannot drop several millions on a whim without flinching. I know for a fact that my income per week would be far lower if I could not farm act 3 and beyond for ilevel 63 gear, because let's be honest--no one wants to buy that 200dps level 52 yellow from act 1 anymore, nor the 800dps 2h you get in act II. It's a shame, but everyone would rather stomach their grind and get that 1000+ dps weapon to make their life easier, than to settle for anything less if they can help it.
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Well, people can complain about how broken or overpowered DH's are on the official forums, but we don't get a passive resist buff (monk's conversion of one to all, or barb's resist shout) nor do we get the mitigation that wizard's get. SS is basically our only absorption skill with vault and shadow power being our semi-oh-crap keys. We SS everything in the same way that just about every barb uses their buff shout, every monk uses that one conversion talent (not sure on this TBH). At the moment--yes most of our abilities are in fact 'useless'.
In order to use resist gear, you need REALLY good resist gear--I'm talking ideally 150+ dex on the piece along with vit, resist, and the random 4th beneficial stat. I tried using my monk's resist set and it was not cutting it. I lost at least 700-800 dex (I think I dropped down to 1200-1300) and I lost a crap ton of IAS, crit chance, and crit damage. Sure, I could take a few hits to the face in the later acts--but my dps was so crap that I couldn't survive long enough regardless.
It's also the most efficient way (as of this posting) to farm elite packs for the gear you need or want to sell. Unless you're are one of the very few who can spend several million on pieces that has an ample amount of dex, vit, resist, and crit chance/crit dmg/ias--it's far cheaper to gear a 1700~2000 dex build glass canon versus a 1700~2000 vitality/resist build. Do they exist out there? Sure--I've seen someone post on Reddit and other forums, but they claimed they spent an upwards of at least 30million, and this was before the inflation hit.
Let's presume with the inflation that you need to spend at least 30million minimum (previous value) and you need to spend an upwards of 50million for the best pieces (total). You have to ask yourself--how much farming will you need to do in order to obtain that amount, and then how much farming would you need to do in order to cut your losses, AND profit as well? I've been able to consistently farm Act 3, some of Act 4, and Whimseyshire and it's not like I'm getting 1200+ dps weapons and perfectly itemized armor pieces dropping left and right.
I'll be interested to see how drop rates are changed post patch, as well as how badly mobs are nerfed. It's true with the increased amount of repair bills that glass canon builds will be less desirable, so I have in fact been keeping any perfectly itemized dex/vit/resist pieces I find to myself as of late.