Unfortunately, this thread is just another thread where 'bad design' or 'poorly implemented' isn't actually true. It's just code for "They didn't do it the exact way I wanted!"
Welcome to the Diablo series. If it doesn't have what you want, play something else.
This above comment is just another comment where 'its fine' or 'qq play another game' isn't actually true. It's just code for "I am a blizzard fanboy and cannot stand to hear legitimate criticism of a blizzard game!'"
If you don't have smoke screen cuz you don't know its awesome, then get it.
If you don't have smoke screen cuz you don't like it, then just reroll another class.
There are TONS and TONS of usless spells in game, and that fact will become quite apparent when people start playing. Some of us, just have the ability to better visualize such things.
I'm assuming you didn't get a chance to try Twister in the beta because that's not how the skill works at all. You only get the tooltip damage if the twister is on top of a mob for the ENTIRE duration. Mobs are always heading towards you and twisters are always moving away, couple that with the random movement and the skill is horrible. If you are lucky enough that the twister actually makes contact with the mob it passes over it only dealing 1-2 ticks of damage, so you get a small fraction of the actual damage.
In your scenario I'd rather blow through my AP with something like Arcane Orb which will deal SIGNIFICANTLY more damage than Energy Twister before falling back on a signature skill. I'm not trying to be an ass, and I'm not trying to say I'm better/smarter than you. I love the idea of Energy Twister and the skill looks absolutely amazing. I really wanted it to be good and tried using it in multiple scenarios to see if I could find a situation where it would be effective. Every single time it failed. It just sucks man, sorry.
All my text-wall aside - I agree that currently Energy Twiser suxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx!!
It's only really good in a very very densly packed room with a greater area of population than something like Arcane Orb can reach .. which doesn't happen very often... YET >
And meteor would be far far better in that situation...so yah, it still sux, and it will always suck.
"Previously, Inferno difficulty was mlvl 61 across all of Inferno, and now it starts at mlvl 61 and ramps up quickly in Act I and ends somewhere around 65 (?) in Act IV. We've only increased the difficulty."
Just because the mobs are still level 61 means absolutely NOTHING!!! A swing and a miss champ.
There are level 60 mobs in Hell, so obviously they have to increase the level for inferno. However, that doesn't mean entry into inferno wasn't nerfed, not even in the slightest.
I have to hand it to blizzard. A lot of people criticize their PR ability, but the truth is they are damn near geniuses at it. Look at this most recent statement for example. There is a lot of turmoil within the population about inferno being nerfed, which is the truth, but that statement slyly makes one think otherwise. End result, less QQ nerfed inferno rage and the best part is its not even a real lie. They told you the truth, but in a way to give you the wrong idea. Of course when the game comes out, no one is going to care about a little white lie. It is brilliant!
"There’s a wide variety of players out there and we wanted to make sure everybody had something to sink their teeth into. We expect that anybody with enough time and dedication will reach level 60. But the jump in difficulty to Inferno needed to be different amounts for different people. For the crazy people they need a HUGE ramp in difficulty, for a more “casual but still hardcore” audience you want an obvious but milder increase in difficulty. So for the crazy people who play non-stop they’ll hit Act I and get a challenge, but 1 month later they’ll still have something to work on (Acts II, III and IV). For the “hardcore-casual” they will reach level 60 later and not get brick walled when they reach Inferno. They can experience some “small victories” working on Act I with the dream of maybe someday reaching the later acts.
Longevity. We know people really want goals to work towards and challenges to overcome. We made Act III and Act IV really, really brutally hard, for the most elite players only. It felt wrong to make ALL of Inferno that brutally hard."
It was nerfed to allow access and progression to more players.
That wording is crystal clear, and there is ZERO room for interpretation.
The only real way to make money in D3 will be at the very beginning.
I'm confused as to why you believe that statement to be true. Could you elaborate?
Its simple really.
#1 Gear doesn't bind or disappear, unless salvaged in which case it wasn't worth anything anyways. Good gear will always exist.
#2 Character space is very limited, and most people won't even bother making a 2nd of each class. So the number of characters needing gear is completely based on the number of accounts.
#3 The population will peak and then decline. When these people quit they will likely cash out, and sell their gear. This not only removes ~5 characters needing gear, but puts ~5 gears characters worth of items back on the market. Sort of a double whammy.
As time passes gear becomes more and more abundant, thus worth less.
It's just simple inflation.
If you think about it, our economic system used to work the same way. Lets say you sell people a $25 mop that last a decade or more, than after people buy said mop, you won't really sell any more of them. Not exactly the best way to make money, so we steered away from that model.
Capitalism, driven by competition, was supposed to drive us to make superior products. However, in the end what it really ended up doing was making inferior cheap products that break easily, thus keeping demand high. Competition drives capitalism, which drives the innovation of developing better ways to make money. Better products are not necessarily an end result of the process, usually just wasted resources.
For example, if you make some cheap gimmick product like a $1 mop that breaks in a week, well you will sell shitloads of them . Or better yet make a swiffer jet mop that uses disposable pads,and the consumer will be forced to buy those pads forever. You keep demand high by selling them this junk, and maintain that consumer in the marketplace.
However, this isn't an option in Diablo3 as we are selling unbreakable mops to a population that is actually decreasing. Also when someone dies, they put their mops back up for sale just before they pass on, thus escalating the oversupply issue further.
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People like you should be banned, before we become as bad as the official forums.
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This above comment is just another comment where 'its fine' or 'qq play another game' isn't actually true. It's just code for "I am a blizzard fanboy and cannot stand to hear legitimate criticism of a blizzard game!'"
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If you don't have smoke screen cuz you don't like it, then just reroll another class.
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Thats right 10k hp....Thats how I roll.
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And meteor would be far far better in that situation...so yah, it still sux, and it will always suck.
Bah, kinmaul beat me to it.
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Celestial Orb
Arcane Orb
Temporal Flux
http://us.battle.net.../wizard#.c!U!.c
Same shit!
PS: Yes I know you have to use more than one skill, but given the fact that diablo2 focused on using 2 skills I think its more than a fair substitute.
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They mutilated my penis when I was born to please jesus.
He is a pretty sick bastard if you ask me!
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Just because the mobs are still level 61 means absolutely NOTHING!!! A swing and a miss champ.
There are level 60 mobs in Hell, so obviously they have to increase the level for inferno. However, that doesn't mean entry into inferno wasn't nerfed, not even in the slightest.
I have to hand it to blizzard. A lot of people criticize their PR ability, but the truth is they are damn near geniuses at it. Look at this most recent statement for example. There is a lot of turmoil within the population about inferno being nerfed, which is the truth, but that statement slyly makes one think otherwise. End result, less QQ nerfed inferno rage and the best part is its not even a real lie. They told you the truth, but in a way to give you the wrong idea. Of course when the game comes out, no one is going to care about a little white lie. It is brilliant!
"There’s a wide variety of players out there and we wanted to make sure everybody had something to sink their teeth into. We expect that anybody with enough time and dedication will reach level 60. But the jump in difficulty to Inferno needed to be different amounts for different people. For the crazy people they need a HUGE ramp in difficulty, for a more “casual but still hardcore” audience you want an obvious but milder increase in difficulty. So for the crazy people who play non-stop they’ll hit Act I and get a challenge, but 1 month later they’ll still have something to work on (Acts II, III and IV). For the “hardcore-casual” they will reach level 60 later and not get brick walled when they reach Inferno. They can experience some “small victories” working on Act I with the dream of maybe someday reaching the later acts.
Longevity. We know people really want goals to work towards and challenges to overcome. We made Act III and Act IV really, really brutally hard, for the most elite players only. It felt wrong to make ALL of Inferno that brutally hard."
It was nerfed to allow access and progression to more players.
That wording is crystal clear, and there is ZERO room for interpretation.
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Its simple really.
#1 Gear doesn't bind or disappear, unless salvaged in which case it wasn't worth anything anyways. Good gear will always exist.
#2 Character space is very limited, and most people won't even bother making a 2nd of each class. So the number of characters needing gear is completely based on the number of accounts.
#3 The population will peak and then decline. When these people quit they will likely cash out, and sell their gear. This not only removes ~5 characters needing gear, but puts ~5 gears characters worth of items back on the market. Sort of a double whammy.
As time passes gear becomes more and more abundant, thus worth less.
It's just simple inflation.
If you think about it, our economic system used to work the same way. Lets say you sell people a $25 mop that last a decade or more, than after people buy said mop, you won't really sell any more of them. Not exactly the best way to make money, so we steered away from that model.
Capitalism, driven by competition, was supposed to drive us to make superior products. However, in the end what it really ended up doing was making inferior cheap products that break easily, thus keeping demand high. Competition drives capitalism, which drives the innovation of developing better ways to make money. Better products are not necessarily an end result of the process, usually just wasted resources.
For example, if you make some cheap gimmick product like a $1 mop that breaks in a week, well you will sell shitloads of them . Or better yet make a swiffer jet mop that uses disposable pads,and the consumer will be forced to buy those pads forever. You keep demand high by selling them this junk, and maintain that consumer in the marketplace.
However, this isn't an option in Diablo3 as we are selling unbreakable mops to a population that is actually decreasing. Also when someone dies, they put their mops back up for sale just before they pass on, thus escalating the oversupply issue further.