I do agree that it is indeed a fact that the seasonal ladder is WAY more competitive with individuals and groups consistently pushing for the top rung. I also agree that if the NS ladder was as popular as the seasonal, theoretically the bar would be higher. You're right - 2 zdps at 5000 para and 2 dps sitting at 1500 wouldn't have the damage output for grifts at that level. Though it should go without saying that a group (like in my example) would probably not attempt any notable push with the aforementioned power imbalance. That being the case or not, I could have included the individuals paragon levels... all of which sitting around 3500.
Still, it is beside the point. I was simply providing evidence that you don't need 4k para to be pushing 115s and on the front page. You better believe it helps though .
And Autocthon, I consider it bad form to start posting random player's names but the group I was referring to has a 14:22 -116 clear and the first player of said group is listed at rank 20 4man NS.