Read the entry from Diablo Wiki. It says it all. I can;t keep arguing in circles with you guys. The whole story is told in Diablos I and II. Angel Tyrael calls Cain the last of the Horadrim. It's all right there.
I guess Blizzard won't lose any money underestimating its audience.
Cain was SENT to TRISTRAM AS A HORADRIM to GUARD DIABLO. He was ALREADY a HORADRIM at THAT TIME. He didn't LEARN to be a HORADRIM in TRISTRAM. The MAGE CLANS, including the HORADRIM, are from the EAST. TRISTRAM is in the WEST. IT MAKES NO SENSE.
Just read some of the posts I must have missed before.
A couple of things. This is Cain's journal we're talking about. It's his point of view. He's one of the Horadrim (http://diablo.wikia.com/wiki/Deckard_Cain tells this story--I'm not making this up and neither are they). He's related to Jered Cain, whose involvement is pretty explicit (again look here to see if I'm making this up http://diablo.wikia.com/wiki/Jered_Cain). he fought in the mage wars, he has been sent to Tristram from the deserts near Lut Gholein to guard the spot where Diablo has been imprisoned, just as Tal Rasha guards Baal. All of this is in Diablo II, and HIS JOURNAL contains none of this information.
Apparently, Blizzard is making just the kind of lame story change I was worried they might--Diablo Wiki's entry on Deckard Cain continues:
"Cain's journal is published as lore. His journal reveals that while Cain dreamt of being the last of the Horadrim, he is in fact not. It tells the events of Diablo and Diablo II in an abbreviated form and suggests numerous times that Cain was an elder and lorekeeper from Tristram, without much prior knowledge of the outside world - a stark contrast to the well-versed and knowledgable "last of the Horadrim" loremaster of Diablo and Diablo II. It is also strongly implied that Cain had no previous knowledge of the Worldstone prior to the events of the Diablo II ending.
It is unknown whether Cain lied when he presented himself as "the last of the Horadrim", and his reasons for doing so, that he had given himself a self assuming title, instead of what would be his proper title 'Last of the Horadrim in Tristram' or suffers from (possibly age-induced) dementia or Alzheimer's. The fact that the Archangel Tyrael also refers to him as the "Last of the Horadrim" further clouds the issue"
Even these guys aren't really buying this change up. I think they did forget and then had their error pointed out to them and patched it up pathetically.
Yeah Snow, you're not getting it. Cain was a Horadrim BEFORE the events in Diablo I. He was specifically sent to Tristram to guard Diablo who had been imprisoned there BEFORE the events in Diablo I. Diablo's imprisonment in Tristram is the CAUSE of the events in Diablo I. I'm not trying to insult your intelligence, but I think this is pretty clear.
All of this is related in Diablos I & II, not in books.
Apparently Deckard and Tyrael both had to have had amnesia so that this change of story for Diablo III could make sense.
His longevity was supposed to have been because he was a Horadrim mage. It's like Ren says above--check your DII--Cain's a Horadrim, and so thinking that the Horadrim are only a legend makes absolutely zero sense regardless of when in the timeline this takes place, unless he's a teenager and it's before the mage wars and the capture of Diablo at Tristram, whcih still makes no sense.
So anyway you slice it somebody screwed up. It would be good if someone on the team understood the entire story and could advise on continuity.
As to this being a twist in the story--the only twist that could work is the cheesy soap-opera cliche amnesia. I'd rather they just got it wrong than that they pulled something as lame as that.
So I was checking out the new stuff at Blizzard.com, and was disappointed to see this entry:
…can the tales of the brave Horadrim and the Lords of the Burning Hells be more than legend…
Diablo II made clear that Deckard Cain was in fact the last of the Horadrim, sent to Tristram to guard over the place where Diablo had been imprisoned. Somehow Blizzard is unaware of their own game’s canon.
I loved the first two games in this series and would really like to like this one as well, but things like this are very telling of the fact that most of the Diablo team is gone.
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I guess Blizzard won't lose any money underestimating its audience.
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Cain was SENT to TRISTRAM AS A HORADRIM to GUARD DIABLO. He was ALREADY a HORADRIM at THAT TIME. He didn't LEARN to be a HORADRIM in TRISTRAM. The MAGE CLANS, including the HORADRIM, are from the EAST. TRISTRAM is in the WEST. IT MAKES NO SENSE.
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In CAIN's JOURNAL he questions whether the Horadrim or the Hells are real!
This is the problem.
And in fact, based on what I've read elsewhere Blizzard is changing the story and saying that Cain was simply a storyteller and not a Horadrim.
It's messed up.
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A couple of things. This is Cain's journal we're talking about. It's his point of view. He's one of the Horadrim (http://diablo.wikia.com/wiki/Deckard_Cain tells this story--I'm not making this up and neither are they). He's related to Jered Cain, whose involvement is pretty explicit (again look here to see if I'm making this up http://diablo.wikia.com/wiki/Jered_Cain). he fought in the mage wars, he has been sent to Tristram from the deserts near Lut Gholein to guard the spot where Diablo has been imprisoned, just as Tal Rasha guards Baal. All of this is in Diablo II, and HIS JOURNAL contains none of this information.
Apparently, Blizzard is making just the kind of lame story change I was worried they might--Diablo Wiki's entry on Deckard Cain continues:
"Cain's journal is published as lore. His journal reveals that while Cain dreamt of being the last of the Horadrim, he is in fact not. It tells the events of Diablo and Diablo II in an abbreviated form and suggests numerous times that Cain was an elder and lorekeeper from Tristram, without much prior knowledge of the outside world - a stark contrast to the well-versed and knowledgable "last of the Horadrim" loremaster of Diablo and Diablo II. It is also strongly implied that Cain had no previous knowledge of the Worldstone prior to the events of the Diablo II ending.
It is unknown whether Cain lied when he presented himself as "the last of the Horadrim", and his reasons for doing so, that he had given himself a self assuming title, instead of what would be his proper title 'Last of the Horadrim in Tristram' or suffers from (possibly age-induced) dementia or Alzheimer's. The fact that the Archangel Tyrael also refers to him as the "Last of the Horadrim" further clouds the issue"
Even these guys aren't really buying this change up. I think they did forget and then had their error pointed out to them and patched it up pathetically.
Yeah Snow, you're not getting it. Cain was a Horadrim BEFORE the events in Diablo I. He was specifically sent to Tristram to guard Diablo who had been imprisoned there BEFORE the events in Diablo I. Diablo's imprisonment in Tristram is the CAUSE of the events in Diablo I. I'm not trying to insult your intelligence, but I think this is pretty clear.
All of this is related in Diablos I & II, not in books.
Apparently Deckard and Tyrael both had to have had amnesia so that this change of story for Diablo III could make sense.
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So anyway you slice it somebody screwed up. It would be good if someone on the team understood the entire story and could advise on continuity.
As to this being a twist in the story--the only twist that could work is the cheesy soap-opera cliche amnesia. I'd rather they just got it wrong than that they pulled something as lame as that.
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…can the tales of the brave Horadrim and the Lords of the Burning Hells be more than legend…
Diablo II made clear that Deckard Cain was in fact the last of the Horadrim, sent to Tristram to guard over the place where Diablo had been imprisoned. Somehow Blizzard is unaware of their own game’s canon.
I loved the first two games in this series and would really like to like this one as well, but things like this are very telling of the fact that most of the Diablo team is gone.