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Pk is fun as hell
they can't take it out

Quote from "basanoviat" »

Since Blizzard is taking one of the darkest characters out of the game, they really have left a gap for an evil hero. The witch doctor is a bit on the dark side, but I dont think it can really fill the dark gap that the necro held. I would also love to see the knight's role flipped and to have a Shadow Knight. It would be a great evil character with many possibilities.

dark knight would be cool, but we need the paladin... i mean cmon bro, its the pally.

Quote from "Cocobuffs" »

We also need a rogue, maybe a hunter, and also a warlock would be cool.

youve got to be kidding me.

rogue = assasin already made in D2 could possibly be a class

hunter = Amazon already made in D2 (we dont want any stupid overpowered bullshit pets like WoW has for hunters)

Warlock = necromancer summons = golems


dont be a newbzz.

Quote from "Haeon" »

I wish that the Tetris-Inventory will be back again...

Tetris-Inventory is the shit.

im gonna miss it alot

i grew up on Diablo 1, it was my first real video game.

i have to say great job, everything is looking awesome.

been playing since the franchise started, Change is okay but for gods sake will you please bring back the THRILL of the Diablo franchise?

i am SOOOOO sick of all of the mmorpgs that turn into a giant void of endless and pointless XP grinding.


the option to go about killing whoever you wish or being voulnerable to everybody in the game implies much more thrill and challenge to the game. i dont even pk personaly and i appreciate the hostile button, but since there is not as much thrill in being invoulnerbal to other players without your consent could you find it in your heart to try and find something new and unique to add the RPG genre that will bring back the adrenallin pumping excitement of Diablo II?it seems like an impossible task to bring back the excitement of Diablo II PVP with the new player consent to hostile rule, but i hope you guys at blizzard have something new in store for us, and not just a MMORPG/RPG thats exactly like every other

i wish for Diablo III to be the same combat style as DII, you at least try and throw something like battlegrounds in there? it might partialy make it up to some of your most loyal heartbroken fans that you broke the hostile button after making us wait 10 years for a sequel.

Quote from "Equinox" »

What Hack&Slash is faster? Alien Shooter. Much faster, much dumber. What PvP is faster? Nox's is. Much faster and more skill dependant.

Randomization means areas become bland. Look at Diablo II. Take the catacombs. All 3 levels are fucking exactly the same. Repetative. Wall placements do not make an area unique, you know. Take Diablo I. It has tons of levels of dungeons, then catacombs, then whatever. Yes, you get to go in a different direction every time. Doesn't change the fact that they are still the same and posses nothing unique. But at least DI had things like the butcher and leoric to spice things up.

Because Dialbo IS a boring as hell endless void of XP grinding and THAT's what the developers fucking need to fix - they need to make hte game fun, not a grind, not an XP chase, which DII eventually became. If DII is the same as WoW except PK, it is WORTHLESS. But I belive DII is a bit more than that. Or could be a bit more.

I didn't realy find WoW all that different. I tried it, got bored after a few days. DII lasts longer, but not online. Online it's just as bad. in SP you can at least do /players 8 and make the game harder. In MP you are stuck playing alone for hours because you can't join public games since you're going to be PKed. Greeaaaaaaat.

i dont feel as if i need to argue with you anymore, because were arguing over an opinionated subject and its going to go no where.

i do feel the need to say this though

diablo isnt an endless void of xp grinding, you can hit 80 in 2 days and get to the end game PVP wich is what the online play is basicly meant for at this point.

wow on the other hand takes months of xp grinding to get to the end game pvp, wich with the options you have is incredibly repeditive considering your going to be doing the same exact battle grounds and arenas facing the same odds every time.

Quote from "Equinox" »

How about you understand there is something like an OPINION and some people do not like your style of play. It doesn't at all mean they want to play WoW or anything.

when i say wow i mean every single MMORPG created in the last 4 years or so.
if you don't want to play them, than don't.

diablo III will be just like every other MMORPG created if there is no real pvp without player to play consent.

it will be nothing special at this point, its been done a thousand times

im just aggrivated by how scared people are of getting your charachter killed in a game, because that means that i cant have the thrill i seek.

you gave your opinion, i expanded upon mine in response.

theres some more opinion for you.

Quote from "Mr.Yoshida" »

Well I thought I should just add this: I am a huge fan of the Diablo series and I think change is good and needed for this series to thrive and stay successful over the years to come. That being said, I can't wait to find out more about the PvP system they plan to implement, and as far as PKing is concerned.. meh, makes little difference to me weather its in the game or not. I will admit though that I am not a fan of griefing and generally PKing someone takes no real skill. However we know very little about how PvP will work in Diablo3 so its probably a good idea not to start getting enraged until we have a good reason to.

BTW Blizzard already stated that Pk is not going to be in Diablo3

im not even a pker myself, and i agree it takes next to nothing to do.


but i like being able to hostile every single person in a dueling game run out into the action and annihalte every person out there instead of having people decline my duel requests or decline my hostility or however you would want to put it.

however i love having the hostile option there when i myself am leveling a HC chare or SC even. it brings more thrill to the competetion and even just pve of the game, and without it diablo would be the same endless boring as hell xp grind that most other RPG's are nowadays.

if your scared of a challenge stick to WoW, if your up for something that requires skill and talent then play a real game.

Quote from "Equinox" »

PK is not what made me or my friends like Diablo. PK is what made us hate it. Please understand there are people with different opinions other than yours.

If a game is popular doesn't mean it's good. Or else you have to agree that Sims is the best game in the world. It sold as much as DIII never will. So lets worship Sims now.

Sales do not make a game. Game quality is a subjective value. You love everything about it, I only like parts.

No, that's an expansion. A game where nothing was changed, just added on.

A game is legend because it sells well and is popular. Doom was legend, so was DIablo, so is WoW, so is SC. Because they sold well. Doesn't mean they can't be good games, but just explains why they were "legendary". I don't see anything legendary about Diablo. Just another game. With a lot of hype. Nothing more, nothing less. I want to play it, and I want the sequel to it to be better, and I will buy that sequel.

I do not believe those things make it a great game. Randomization makes it repetative. Fast pace is severly slowed down by certain factors. Game enjoyment is diminished by internet assholes being allowed to be such... Maybe you just need to think more.

or maybe you need to think more, you make absolutley no sense at all. show me a faster paced RPG, randomization is the exact oposite of repeditveness because your doing something different every single time. without the internet assholes being allowed to do theyr role diablo would be a boring as hell endless void of xp grinding just like wow.

i play wow, or did for a long while. now THAT is fucking repeditive to an entirely new level and if you dont agree with me your insane 0.o

i think the definition of a sequel is something along the lines of a new storyline, the diablo III i wish to play is exactly this.

sequel.

Quote from "Equinox" »

Which only makes it worse. It is not all that good... it's just popular. Popular means it applies to the masses. Masses are stupid. Do the math.

There are still fans out there of games like Nox and heXen which will NEVER EVER have a sequel. I don't grasp your point.

I don't remember there being a game like Diablo I / II that doesn't have open PvP. In fact, that's virtually impossible because that game would have to be a better game than Diablo and resemble it in every way... which is... what Diablo III is going to be.

Because of PK? Fuck, I hope not. If a game was unique just due to PK, not to fast-paced action, randomization, and storyline, I am really sorry for you Diablo II fans, you are worshiping God knows what... I always thought Diablo had more in it than a bully simulator.

Fan = fanatic = person who cannot think because they are blinded by their fanatism. Which you seem to be.

Sequel? Or expansion? Copy of DII with a few new items and monsters? I want a sequel. You want an expansion.

I don't think I can ruin anything. I am not a fan, I am a severe minority in 90% of my opinions and wishes. I don't think you should worry about that. You should worry about the guys who signed a petition...

diablo was a great game not only for its pk, but the way it developed along with the pk ability made it 10x better than you could ever fathom any other game comparing to at its time.

i want DII with new items skills monsters 3d engine and enviorments, its called a godddamn sequel.

google online RPG and i garuntee if you arent blind you will find hundreds of games that are more suited for your weak-of-heart kind that cant handle pking

diablo is an amazing game, popular or not it is an amazing game.
not because of the masses or the popularity was it a legend, it was a legend because of the masterminds that created such a great game.

you say diablo wasnt even that good of a game then you talk about it in such high regards about it being fast paced, full of action, randomized, and having a good storyline as if you got hit on the head so hard in the middle of typing that you completley forgot the first thing you typed in your post.

Quote from "Timaah" »

I agree with you Ston3r... when Equinox was talking about changing it I couldnt even fathom why he was saying that.. Why change the game I know and love? It was my favorite game back then for a reason.. i dont WANT to change it now.. I want to improve on it.. but not change it.

i feel like a loser when i say it but i connect on a whole new level with diablo.

it was my first real video game, ever. Diablo introduced me to the internet pretty much. nothing compares to the satisfaction of running outside of town and brawling it out in a free for all with 5 different people and killing every single one of them 1 after another.

NNNOOOTTHHING

NO not even the dropping of your bullshit legendary weapons on wow, its nothing to compare to the feeling that you tested your wits against 5 other people and still came out ontop.

the RPG category needs a new champion of pvp games and Diablo III is the perfect game for the job.


i hope blizzard doesnt fuck up and Diablo III is still apart of the Diablo series, because if i buy Diablo 3 and theres no hostile button on my party screen i am personaly never considering Diablo III apart of the real Diablo franchise that the brutaly genious game designers conjured many years ago.

Quote from "Equinox" »

I agree. As far as DII goes. It was made in a certain way and PK crawled out. Fine.

But this is DIII. I want change. You don't want change. Difference of opinions... but nobody has the right to say that one or the other will ruin the game.

That is nothing more than your opinion. Why is it better than mine? I enjoyed many parts of DII, but I hated other parts, and I want those parts change, just as any other person that enjoyed DII - that's why they make sequels, to change, to improve upon the previous game to their own view. And to their view, PK is not a good thing, as we heard in the interviews.

I don't see a difference. I am level 50 someone is level 55 but they have a build that is great against my build and my build is against monsters. It's the same sort of PK. What's the difference? I don't understand why weaklings should be advocated. You want to PvP go beat me in Nox or something, where skill, not leveling or build, matter.

So? The game is 10 years old. Back then PvP was a new area and people (devs) were not familiar how to deal with it. Just like games used to be 2D now they are 3D. PK mechanics is the same thing. Considering how uneven Diablo II's PvP has always been, it cannot be its main point. Maybe a part of it. But not its main point, too unbalanced. It was made for PvE.

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Diablo was a legend. there are still fans out there that crave the sequel and have been waiting 10 years to finally even hear anything about it, and your trying to change it when there are literaly HUNDREDS of great games out there with everything you have described that you want in a game?

Diablo was unique, and i was hoping it would stay that way. i guess instead it could possibly just blend into the hundreds of other games that are the exact same thing as what the WoW blizzard fans want Diablo III to be.


us hardcore diablo fans have been craving this sequel for long enough, don't try to go and ruin it when there are nearly no other games that are comparable in style and pvp quality to Diablo 1-2 LoD

were on the same level.
been playing since Diablo 1 and i don't plan on stopping.

pk created Diablo.

Pk created Diablo's several gaming awards.

pk created blizzards place and name in RPG games and any sub-category that branches off of it.

taking pk away makes the game a pointless void of endless grinding and a virtual world with an M rating that was created for the 9 year olds that hate the Hostile button.

if blizzard plans on ending PK they are ending the very soul of the Diablo game.

if you want to play a consent-only game where curse words can be reported even though theres a filter then go have fun on WoW.

Diablo should stay true to its name, the devil shows no mercy. why should a game named after him?

Quote from "pobresmeagol" »

I think the 5 classes will look like this :

Melee Fighter (Barbarian, duh)
Ranged Fighter
Mage
Healer/buffer
Summoner/debuffer (Witch Doctor)

It looks like alot of people want to see the palidin return, but I'd much rather see a wholly different type of healer. Maybe something more along the line of a holy spell caster.

I think all of us agree that we want to see sorceress 2.0

But as far as the ranged fighter type goes, I would love to see a druid/hunter class. It would have lycanthropy and bow abilities, but it woul also have a permenent pet that it can teach fighting styles.

Imagine being able to have a VERY powerful pet that can draw the attintion of crowds from you while you pick them off from long range, or fight alongside as a wearsomething.

were talking about Diablo III not World of Diablo, are you sure your in the right forum?

paladin, anndddd paladin.

and some more paladin, and the sorceress

ide like for a few of the old classes to still be available like barbarian but if theres anything that needs to come back its the paladin.

maybe an assasin with good melee abilitys that are actualy usefull, and not so focused on traps?

i love the trap sin and all but ide like to see a strong melee sin aswell

Quote from "TheHuHu" »

I'm guessing you didn't read my post, either. I even said there would still be obvious items that would become a part of a trade, but if you want this to become another Diablo 2 economy, then I guess that's your right to say so, but it doesn't mean it's a bad idea if you want a major flaw in the game. You don't want gold to have value, do you?

actualy i dont want gold to have value. Diablo players are smart enough to set their own currencies wether its hex's or soj's

boe and bop items would ruin the game. Diablo and WoW are different types of games and i dont know how many people will have to tell you that for you to believe it.

maybe something sort of like an AH would be usefull where you could post up items that you wish to trade and suggest offers and such instead of joining as many trade games as possible or using jsp.