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Above is from the play.com website I think thats actually a realistic date, but im guessing it will be pushed forward atleast another 6 months
Im guessing at around october 2009
Yes but on-line retailers have been making up release dates for everything from games to CDs to books for years and years. There is some marketing rule that says Release: TBD is unsexy or something and people will not pre-order a TBD item. Make up a false release date and presto! You get thousands of pre-orders. The only flaw in that plan is if the item never makes it to market for whatever reason and you have to deal with cancelling the orders and losing face with your customers.
I will not believe any dates unless they come from Blizzard.
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Yes but on-line retailers have been making up release dates for everything from games to CDs to books for years and years. There is some marketing rule that says Release: TBD is unsexy or something and people will not pre-order a TBD item. Make up a false release date and presto! You get thousands of pre-orders. The only flaw in that plan is if the item never makes it to market for whatever reason and you have to deal with cancelling the orders and losing face with your customers.
I will not believe any dates unless they come from Blizzard.
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Hellfire is easily available on the more shifty peer to peer sites, but I would not recommened torrenting this title for the following reasons:
1. Blizzard is a cool enough company that makes cool games and deserve our support.
2. Blizzard watches torrent sites and unless you know how to hide they complain to your ISP that you have pirated a title of theirs. A buddy I know got a warning from Comcast that he had torrented Starcraft. He was a dumb*$$ and should have just bought the thing as it was in a bin for like $9 at We-Will-Destroy-You-Puny-Indy-Retailer-Mart.
3. Hellfire sucks and is not worth stealing much less buying.
The moral of all this is that torrenting should only be used to rip of Metallica songs even if you don't like Metallica as Lars Ulrich is a fool who is pissed that he is going bald so he takes out his frustration of having a small package out on his fans. Oh and never outsource Diablo work, even something as small as a little add-on pack. Although the guy in the cow constume was funny.
But Blizzard is a sweet company who has yet to let us down and deserve all our support! :thumbsup:
Can you even buy a legit copy of Hellfire anymore? I had borrowed a friends CD back in the day and that's why I know what it was like, but I have not seen the thing for sale in years.
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Yes after the announcement I also went back and checked on mine. I discovered that I had the DVD, soundtrack CD and the Game CDs scattered abount various locations in my house. I reunited all of the items back into the original box. Mine is numbered 69,000 something. I remember it was in the high 69,000 range out of a possible 70,000.
Looks like I got lucky and got one of the last few thousand boxes.
Also since I do not paper game the AD&D stuff is 100% intact with none of the paper elements punched out of the sheets. I have little or no idea what the thing is worth, but unless someone wants to give me $1000 for it the thing is not for sale
And a few months ago I wanted to go back to D2X and could not find my D2X CD. I went to a local "Super" supermarket and at that time they had about 5 copies of D2X in the smallish box with the flap for $19.99.
I was there yesterday and all copies are gone and no battle chest either.
It is amazing when things like this give life to older material. It was like when Pink Floyd reunited with Roger at the Live8 deal all of their old albums started selling zillions of copies again.
I wonder if this new surge in D2X players will give Bliz some reason to make a new patch that is more than just Uber bosses. Maybe increase the character levels beyond 99 and revamp some character skills like they did with the synergies? Just dreamin!
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I will not play D3 if it goes fee based. As simple as that, yes. I have nothing against MMO's, I just cannot personally justify a monthly fee for a game. I do pay for X-Box Live fees, but that's more a service than a specific game fee. And if I kill my X-Box Live account it's not like any of my X-Box games will stop working.
I guess the main thing is just what I said, if you pay a fee there is a pull to play as much as possible to get the most value. I just don't have enough time to game like that so I know I would be paying for a full month but only using a few days worth.
I also cancelled my Netflix and Gamefly subscriptions for much the same reason. I never had the time to watch the DVD/play the games and send them back qucikly enough to make it worth my while!
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Mario music in the Durance of Hate just wouldn't have worked would it ;)?
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Gee thanks! Now the next time I am in the Durance of Hate I am going to hear in my head "Da da da - da da da da - da da da da da da da da"
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Well you must remember that D1 & D2 were pretty low on the resolution side.
D2's graphical jump over D1 was to offer us 800x600 in addtion to the 640x480!
An isometric view in those ancient low-rez modes, in my opinion, was one of the big factors for the "Diablo" feel. There are people nowadays who can't even think of a time when the native resolution of a PC monitor was 1024x768 much less 800x600!
These days with games running in DX-9 in modes up to 1920x1200 Blizzard has to join the new century and give us more than 800x600! And in these higher modes the texures are going to look cleaner and crisper. These days games come out with physics that have each blade of grass blowing in the wind and this is what modern gamers expect. The days of dark and murky muddled low-rez games is fading into the past.
I trust Blizzard to take our Diablo universe into this brave new world of *gasp* MODERN graphics and still remain faithful to what the Diablo universe is. I don't think using bump mapping and other attempts to replicate the look of D1 & D2 will work in anything higher than 800x600.
And I for one do not want to be stuck in 1999 and want D3 to push my display to its limits!
In the end some will love they way it is and some will hate it. Of those some will play it anyways. I just hope it sells well and gives them the push for more, more more!!! I think I will be like 60 some odd years old by the time D10 comes out, but if I am still alive and kickin I will be first in line!
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I think a lot of the DIII art direction haters (I said a lot, not alll) are really WoW haters and the mere notion of a Diablo game resembling WoW in any way seems to have struck a nerve with some!
I have no idea if any of this is going to sway Blizzard in any way as they have been working on this for several years and I doubt they will suddenly toss what they were doing and re-tool major aspects of the game just because 25,000 people "signed" an Internet petition.
Real paper & pencil petitions oftentimes get little respect. Internet ones are a joke.
A paper & pencil one means that someone (or a few someones) did a lot of work harassing strangers on the street and/or door knocking trying to convince jaded passerby that they need to sign this thing in the 3 seconds they have before they walk on by or slam the door in thier face. And to make matters worse most want some form of ID such as drivers license#, registered voter#, etc., to give some validation that the signatures are unique and wasn't all done up by one guy.
All one needs to do with an Internet petition is fill the name & e-mail and click a couple of buttons. And if you have an autofill feature then you don't even have to type anything out!
So, the first type that takes loads of frustating work is often dismissed.
What makes anyone think a petition that takes hardly any work at all would be thought of any better?
If you want to get thier attention then have these same 25,000 people send a snail-mail hand written letter to Blizzard.
I would bet $50 that of those 25,000 not 1% would be willing to take pencil to paper and write what they have issues with, stuff it in an envelope, write out the Blizzard PR address, stick a stamp on it and mail it.
If Blizzard got a truckload of paper dumped on thier doorstep you bet they would take notice. A report of 25,000 clicks on some web site combined with some complaints on a fan-forum will probably not motivate them very much.
Now, that said, I will agree about the blue/green fog deal being odd. I have toured actual catacombs both with flame torches and more modern halogen torches and have never seen blue/green. And really if it is released like that last time I checked I can fiddle with the color temps on my monitor to make it look any way I want.
I liked the texures and the look of the characters. Is it a clone of the D2 style? Well no, and it shouldn't be. But is it "Diablo" enough, whatever the heck that means? Sure.
I really like the look of those zombie things crawling up the bridge walls to attack the Barb! Something like that was beyond the technology of the D2 engine so I am happy to see what new visual goodies the new D3 engine gives us!
And as far as a Carebear stare goes, if I define that phrase correctly you mean gazing at the screen with a wide-eyed facination with an expression that says you are full of wonder!
Tell me we all didn't have a "Carebear stare" the first time we played D2? I know I sure did.
And for the record I don't play WoW and never will. It's not that I think WoW is cartoony, repetitive, full of leet-speek kiddies, etc. I don't play WoW or any other MMO because I just cannot deal with having to pay a monthly fee to play a game. I don't care how good it is, I will never be good with a subscription based game. Since you are paying each month you feel complelled to play because if you don't then that is money wasted.
It's not like the fee is pro-rated for the times when you are not playing. Go on a trip for 2 weeks, well you are still paying for those 2 weeks of WoW, Star Wars, LoTR, The Matrix, etc. The compultion to play as much as possible so as to not waste the fee is why I avoid all MMO's. Now I am sure there are many MMO players who do not have this hangup of mine, but I do and that is why I don't do MMO's!
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I agree. I think becuase the game demo film looked so polished that it makes one think the whole sheebang is almost done.
But I can also believe that they may only have one act done. They may be pretty much done with the graphics engine and enough design elements to have created that demo, but that hardly means the whole game is coded and being debugged as we speak.
I can believe that the whole story, on paper at least, is all done. All that is left is to put what is on paper to computer and make sure it plays nice with B.net.
And I'd guess that will take 1-2 years.
But just knowing that it is really being worked on and not some back burner project is pretty freakin sweet!
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Games like Diablo where you hack and slash beasts and monsters who are evil are not the same in my mind.
Yes, there are those who think that all violence, even violence against cartoon monster trees, is horrible for the kiddies.
But I allow my 8 year old to play D2 and he has never wanted to bean his little sister or brother with a sword or attack the cats pretending they are sand leapers.
But I don't even allow him to even watch me or his 16 year old big brother play GTA 4.
I do allow the 16 year old to play GTA 4. If he is old enough to drive and gets honor roll grades and has a good looking girlfriend then I think he can tell the difference at this point between reality and fantasy violence.
I have heard lots of heat heaped upon games like Postal, GTA & even Halo, but I have never heard much about WoW or Diablo.
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I have 100% faith in Blizzard. Remember that there was an actual Diablo 3 game that was more or less done by the Bliz North guys that was scrapped for not being good enough.
The fact is that if they had released that early D3 it still would have sold a million copies even if it was not good enough.
Instead they started all over again and risked letting the energy of the series die out in this world of Halo 3 & GTA 4. In a business world where they insist that one strikes while the iron is hot, Blizzard will only strike when the hammer is ready to strike!
I am not aware of many other companies that would allow years and years to go by in between releases, especially for a series as hot as Diablo. But Bliz cares not for high initial sales due to a product that was rushed for the X-Mas market. They care more that the game is done in such a way to capture the heart and soul of the gamer so that we will wait a decade or more for the next part!
It's funny to think that when I first started playing Diablo (D1 that is) I was the sort who would have typed in leet speek (I pwned yur a$$ ya noob!), but these days I try to post with as much proper grammer and spelling as I can and totally avoid flame wars with other users.
Think about that...When Diablo 4 comes out a bunch of the younglings 'round here could have families, corporate jobs, etc.
I have all those (and the etc. as well) now, but when I was playing D1 I never would have thought as much!
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Indeed yes! And from what I recall the D2 CE was the only way to get the soundtrack CD as it was not an item that was for sale otherwise.
And the skelly on the CD cover & disc is a pretty cool image. I suspect some bands out there wish they could have used it for their CDs!
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Is a much better shot of what the D2 Collectors edition contained.
Apparantly there were only 70,000 made.
Not the smallest of editions but considering that millions of copies were sold then I guess it can be thought of as a small edition.
And this is why I would love the same treatment for D3! I can only imagne what they would include because they would have to go over what the D2 collectors edition had.
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Forgive the douible post ya'all but I had to counter this point.
I know I am not the only one here who is a proud owner of the DII Collectors Edition!
It came with the game in a 4-cd case (only 3 cds obviously), a DVD of all the cut scenes with Maruis (looks great on a big screen!) a CD of the complete soundtrack (if you ever want to make people in your house feel like they are being chased put this on with the volume low) and a paper AD&D Diablo game module for those of us who like to paper game. I don't so that is in pristine condition.
I think the manual was like the regular one but I cannot be sure exactly where the regular and deluxe editions differed. And the box was numbered as it was a limited edition.
I am at work so I cannot tell you what mine was #'ed.
It was years ago so I cannot tell you what I paid for it and I cannot recall if I got it directly from Blizzard or from some 3rd party retailer.
So this is why we hope they do a similar thing with D3. Just the small clips of music on the D3 website makes me long for a whole CD of the new music! And a DVD of the cinematics would look great on a plasma/big LCD.
Oh and the DVD case had a warning that viewing the films before you played the game 100% would spoil the end. I heeded the warning and did not play the DVD until I finished Normal and knew what happened.
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Same here! I bought the collectors edition of D2, the one that came with a DVD of the Marius cutscenes, a CD of the soundtrack (worth the price of the collection alone) and an offical AD&D Diablo paper game that I have never used as I don't paper game.
I also bought one of the Diablo action figures that is now long lost, but the collector's edition is still with me.
I have the soundtrack on my MP3 player and sometimes watch the DVD for fun although too bad it does not have the Act 5 films as it indeed predates those. But other than the paper AD&D thingy I totally use the stuff that came with it.
And as far as what I would like to see in D3, are we now going to find out what became of Adria? Her shack on the other side of the river was never seen when we returned to Tristram leaving her fate unknown. I would think she would be crafty enough to get out of Dodge once the goings got bad. I will smile if I hear once again "I sense a soul in search of answers... " :thumbsup:
I always thought her words of wisdom were far more deep than anything Cain ever said!
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Why are so many enamored with dark, dark & more dark? To be blunt as much as I loved D2 in the really dark areas I had to turn the gamma way up. If that didn't help I would simply watch my dot on the map and never even gave the scenery a first look much less a second one.
The light radius thing was a bother at best and horriby frustrating at worst.
The scenery in D2 was stunning but so much of it was lost in the darkness.
The D3 shots have so much detail in every nook and cranny I know that in the early days of playing I am going to get killed often because I am too busy enjoying the scenery to fight!
I don't play WoW (in fact have never even seen it) so I don't know how the new shots compare to WoW.
The game movie was a video of a monitor so it is hard to get a real feel for the actual colors, but in the hi-res screen captures I like the dungeon lighting and colors.
It is nice to see all around and I do feel it is plenty creepy without having to be plunged into complete darkness.
Sancuary has a sun that shines quite bright as evidenced by Act II - D2 so the outside need not always be dark and overcast.
I just don't feel that reusing the D2 lighting and color scheme with this new graphics engine will work.
But in all reality films of monitors and screen-caps may never give one the true feel.
I don't think we are ever going to get the real feel of it until a playable demo is released.
And in the end I will buy it & play it no matter how light or dark it is.