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Chantodos may be class specific, but it was never torment only. only the BIG class specific sets with 4+ piece bonus are torment only.

Also, is there really a need for a video where you buy boots for 500 shards? i mean, really? Next thing someone posts a video where he runs in circles...

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@bagstone

Thank you for your reply. I never said anything about going back and buffing every single legendary, but rather the future ones that will be added and if they are going to be like post nerf SoH then what's the point? Shard of Hate was interesting to me because this was the first item that was going to be a PoE style of community designed legendaries and most importantly would set the vibe of how new items would be handled in the future. So far its not very impressive.

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"So they made a really cool legendary in a fluke accident and regardless of it "working as intended" you can easily draw the conclusion that there will never ever be a weapon that will come close to being as strong as pre nerf Shard of Hate which is rather stupid considering the fact that they want to make legendaries feel more legendary."

This is where you lost me entirely. Not only can I not "easily" draw that conclusion, but in fact no one can draw that conclusion at all. That is, unless you've got a crystal ball that lets you see what all the yet-to-be-implemented legendary/set weapons will be. Fixing one bugged weapon doesn't mean that all future weapons MUST be less effective than it was when it was bugged. That's just terrible logic you've got going there.

Maybe, but that's the thing with precedents once they are set its unlikely they will go against their ultimate decision. If they weren't going to leave a weapon in that made a build barely able to farm T6 do you really think they are going to add more items that are like it prenerf?

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Shard of Hate was not just overpowered, it was bugged.

When did "Nerf" became a bad word?
And why do you think "Bugfix" is a better way to describe a game change?

If a "fix" is needed to balance, it means they've done a p*ss poor job with beta testing.

Does that make it any better?

Where are the BUFFS to weak/underpowered Skills/Items?
Should we call them "fix" too?

I really don't care if SoH was working as intended, that's not the point of this thread. Its the fact that it was a legendary that made a build barely T6 viable compared to others and it was kneejerk hotfixed. What are we suppose to look forward to if they are just going to implement mediocre legendaries?

SoH wasn't one shotting stuff on T6. I linked to a VoD showing a lightning barb with SoH which he was killing stuff on T6 but at a decent pace.

Can we be a a little reasonable and use facts? Shard of Hate wasn't one shotting everything on T6 and I wasn't proposing they implement legendaries that do.

Once again stay on topic, my gear has nothing to do with overall game design.

What's there to look forward to if they are just going to release legendaries that are mere side grades that will probably instant salvages as well?

Stay on the topic.

So they made a really cool legendary in a fluke accident and regardless of it "working as intended" you can easily draw the conclusion that there will never ever be a weapon that will come close to being as strong as pre nerf Shard of Hate which is rather stupid considering the fact that they want to make legendaries feel more legendary.


And I was making the point with alk that the weapon wasn't "lawl free t6 pass", you could also work on your manner and tone when talking to other real people.

Idk this Shard of Hate thing has given me the wrong vibe. That they have drawn the line in the metaphorical sand and there will be no sort of legendary that will even come close to being as strong as shard, but in reality it wasn't even that strong to begin with. Yes it did a lot of damage, but not enough to jeopardize the game and anyone who says shard was a free pass to T6 was obviously trolling.

For example lets look at Alkaizer. He had really good gear, full raekors, a really good soj, unity on him and an invincible follower giving him 50% reduced damage, and a near perfect roll on his strongarm bracers. Was he melting t6? Not really. He could farm it at a decent pace, but even then he was killing things rather slow compared to other comparable specs . If you don't believe me he has a week full of VoDs

http://www.twitch.tv/alkaizerx/b/519309994

I don't really know what to think and this whole thing has left a really bad taste in my mouth. This game has come miles from when it launched two years ago and I was happy to pay for the expansion, but I feel that this game needs more powerful items in order to keep the farm worth while. Thunderfury is a good start, but the ceiling needs to be so much higher.

Thanks for listening to my rant.

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Was bored on my wiz and leveled my old barb to 70 saturday. Sunday before i went to bed i was the top #6 elemental DMG barb on the US servers. Seems like blizzard wants me to play a barb. Im just missing a better andariels and a soj. My tag is lemonkiss#1675

You're also super glass cannon though. DiabloProgress ranks don't really mean anything.

you have an andy's without elemental damage. For shame. And not everyone is on diablo progress because its only the people who take time to fill it out, so to say you're #XX in the world is a little misleading. You could say you are #XX on diabloprogress if that makes your peen feel better and it would be truthful. I however like to back up my builds with numbers, like I can clear a T4 rift in XX mins with no deaths but I struggle in T5.

Ew gross a shameful plug for a shitty stream

Eh the only people really farming Mangle are botters. There isn't an efficient bot for adventure mode or rifts yet, but it can sure farm the hell out of manglemaw.

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Old news.

:/

Here is a video explanation http://youtu.be/hxUZ374KJOE

Its pretty simple. Start the game on Act II quest 4 "A Royal Audience" Play through the quest and hit the two pull points mentioned in the video, turn in the quest then back out and reset.

I was averaging 44-55 million exp and 80k gold per run which adds up quick.

Thank you all for watching. Please feel free to leave any advice or ask questions.