Quote from "Dvirus55" »I'm not sure how linking to a poll that was closed is fact for anything heh
Quote from name="Sol Invictus" »You need to stop. You're not doing yourself any favors with these posts. You and the few other people like seem to think you're the core people who want the style changed just because you make the most noise.
Guess what? We're all fans, like it or not. Give it a rest.
Quote from "timmen" »Another kid who thinks his opinion is the only one. So tiring
Quote from "shelledfade" »really I, myself, Would not give a damn if i had to wait 2 more years instead of 1 if their changing it, it HAD to be done.
Quote from "Snowee" »The words ..fans may as well settle in for a healthy wait.. and ..the game is nowhere near finished.. were scary.
Oh well. I'm positive now this won't be coming until 2010 or late 2009.
I think he's forgetting conveniently how those places were colored:DPeople remember the Act I dungeons... but they kind of conveniently forget the green fields of Act I, and all of Act II... and it's palaces, its bright deserts.
Is this guy for real?:confused:Diablo II, said Wilson, was actually "very saturated, very bright."
Haven't seen any of that philosophy before Warcraft 3. Ever. None of that for Diablo 1,2, Starcraft, Warcraft 1,2. Nor the Lost Vikings."There's a philosophy that goes across all of our games, and that philosophy stays true from game to game... so it probably draws some comparisons," Wilson said. "One philosophy is that our artists feel like if they're just using photorealism, not creating a unique look for the game, not stylizing so that it's uniquely Blizzard, then they're not doing their jobs."
Well I'm glad we didn't see the tombstones copy pasted from WoW then:DThere are some cases, though, where the sharing of art philosophy doesn't always work — WoW game director Jeffrey Kaplan said that the team takes care not to make the gravestones in WoW's pivotal cemeteries too Gothic-looking — those tombstones belong in Diablo.
YES! Finally! Some light at the end of the tunnel! This made me really happy. The only good part of the interview, really, because it's the only part where they're not firing a shotgun at their own feet. I'm glad the environment will get worse. And they've confirmed the plot as well, basically. Hell IS breaking loose.The preliminary art we've seen so far, Wilson said, is from early on in the game. "We want to generate the feeling of everything getting worse... it's part of our narrative. It makes the more gloomy part of the game a place where the stakes get higher."
Would have been nice if they'd say that earlier, to stop the "whining". But why didn't they? Well, I could come up with many theories. Ah well, their choice. It was good publicity, actually."If you start out at the apocalypse, and then move to more apocalypse, it's not going to have much of an impression on players."
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Yes. The Warcraft universe is immersive on the whole, actually.
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This is my point! The bright areas in the new game are not as fitting as the ones in the game's predecessors! Even the outdoors don't look like Diablo!
OH THE IDIOCY!
"and of course the boring baseless argument " it looks like WoW ""
JESUS CHRIST! The DEVS admitted that it looks like WoW! They, in their art panel discussed to LENGTHS that the "stylized" appearance of their game is basically a TRADEMARK for them. HOW MORE OBVIOUS CAN IT BE FOR FUCKS SAKE. They said it themselves! What part of Blizzard's Art Philosophy don't you understand?
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Ever heard of immersion?
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Well you should stop crying over other peoples' opinions.
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Why the arrogance? You're making yourselves look like shit. Diablo 3 loyalists? Have you even the most basic grasp of the meaning of the word? How can you define being a Diablo 3 loyalist? Praising it to the heavens and insisting with crusader-like fervor that everybody else 'cept yourself is wrong? What is the matter with you? Are you so numb of mind that you can't see how much worse you're actually making this? If you're going to express your opinion, don't be an arrogant bastard over about the whole matter. Make yourself heard, but PLEASE at least have the dignity not to call yourself something you clearly are not.
EDIT: And about the whole petition itself, you do realize that you're contradicting yourself at every turn, do you? The whole argument section is a frickin' paradox in it's own. Yes, Diablo I and II were colorful, with sometimes very bright tones, but it fit the whole dark, evil atmosphere, as you said yourself. Please get your facts straight and make up your mind before making a rash decision.
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What the fuck?
That's the point of making a request, it's basically asking for action based on your own opinion :-/
And that said, you must be tired of yourself as well. Sheesh, another GREAT thread!
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What I didn't like was:
-The overly stylized graphics, reminds too much the art design of Warcraft and the ilk.
One must be immersed in the game. What adds mostly to the immersion is the environment, the objects that surround you, the nature, trees, bushes, the grass. Right now it seems out of place for a Diablo game. I don't care if it has rainbows or not, they even add to the flavour, really. What I do have a grudge about is that it doesn't feel spooky anymore. 20 years has passed? Great. But hell is invading? Even more. But how does that add up to the environments we have been shown now? If there are lush grasslands with sunshine, fine, it seems like a welcome transition from the traditional gloom and darkness. But what I don't like is the details and the absence of them thereof. Textures are smooth, so are the models. They're all like polished diamonds. Don't they make bridges and staircases out of stone anymore? Just lego blocks? Worn out rock and stone does go a bit round around the edges, but I would like to see things that have a square-like look to them. A brick should be a brick, not a lopsided cobblestone or whatnot.
Judging from the videos and other media so far, the game does have an atmosphere, and a good one, but it doesn't feel like Diablo's. It feels more like Titan Quest or Mythos rather than Diablo. Going towards that more colorful style was a gamble. It seems that hasn't gone on well to the public as they (well including me), are pretty vocal about it. I'd buy the game anyway, if it stays like this, but it doesn't feel just right. Diablo I and II were spot on with their art design. Maybe I am just nostalgic, but to me D3 so far lacks the atmosphere and immersion that were the cornerstones of it's predecessors. If a random guy, totally new to the series sees D3, he might go "Wow, those graphics are amazing, I love it", but for me, I've been playing the series since the first game, the art style is just hard to give up on.
What I did like:
-Everything else.
-Also, the weapon effects were awesome. Flashy I'd say.
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(I signed it anyhoo.)
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Maybe I was wrong about this being too early after all.
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???
Environments are like... THE thing that sets the whole mood AND atmosphere. What are you on about?
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To this:
Ok, may not be the best of examples, but I don't have TQ installed right now to take a better comparison. While D3 is darker than TQ in the screen (and overall, actually), it looks just too similar, as in, too little grittiness.
EDIT: Damn that second image is large
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Exactly. People should chill out and get their facts straight
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Right and as we know it, devs never sleep eat or rest. Especially after huge conventions.