In the early game it certainly can be. The drops from Greater Rift Guardians seem more rewarding than other activities that can be done by characters that can not complete higher level Rifts. This will probably be even more so once 2.1.2 as the XP and Gold rewards are adjusted. Also in the early game you will be wanting to get the gems anyway.
Once you can do T5/T6 efficiently the benefit probably drops away.
They don't let us stockpile blood shards, so they are not going to intentionally allow potential Ancients to be stockpiled via caches. I would think if there is a blue answer it would be to confirm that it will be corrected before 2.1.2 goes live. There has not been a comment so there is a possibility that it may slip through.
Ofc you can have ancient rorg. caches roll items on opening
Correct, to an extent. The stats (and as far as we know this only affects the MAIN stat) roll on opening. However, the CONTENT (whether you get a RoRG or not) is pre-determined. There is still some gray area revolving around class specific items like wands, sources, mojos, mighty weapons, quivers, etc. However, saying that 'of course you can have an Ancient RoRG if you wait' is shortsighted. We simply don't know if the 'ancient' modifier on an item within a cache is determined upon acquisition or opening, or if this can be retroactive before the patch. Simply put, it's unknown.
Of course this is subject to change, but it seems that at the moment you can get an ancient from a cache copied to the PTR.
I really don't get the reason for this thread. OP states that the game is ruined and that bots provide the player counts that make game look populated, then in the next breath states that he is still making money hand over fist. If OP is making that much money that means there are lots of players, so that makes the game healthy right? Also bots would never do anything to make the game look populated, they never play public.
5000 hours on 200 bots, that does not sound like a lot for a 24/7 operation.
$5 or $6 dollars for reasonably rare items does not make sense either. That is a lot of electricity and infrastructure for 5 or 6 dollars. How many hours on average does it take to get a Thunderfury or SoH. That made sense in the old AH when BiS gear sold for 50-100 and you could sell whatever you found.
How is a post like this ever going to make the game better? If the OP is being truthful he is delusional and if he is lying he is a douche.
I said well over 5000 hours I did not give you my exact play time because if I did you could easily locate my accounts. Also I said the game is dead by players I didn't say that there were none at all. Please get your points right, you act like it takes 100s of computers to run my bots. I do it all from 1 computer. That is not what the thread is about, the thread is to provide users information on how shady blizzard is. This is an attempt to get blizzard to wake up.
So, well over 5000 is that like 6000 or 10,000. I have 2800+ on a non-botted account, so forgive me for not thinking that 5000+ is that much for 24/7/200 operation like yours obviously is Just a hint when you are making up numbers, just run a few calculations to work out what is feasible. For you to be making the most of those 200 bots and making the big bucks you must be servicing a lot of players at 5 bucks a pop.
You have 200 bots running on one computer that is a mighty effort, well done.
Now back to the point of the post. You are trying to provide a public service by telling people on a 3rd party site about how shady Blizzard is for not putting enough effort into shutting down more botters and getting Blizzard to wake up? Right.
Now that gear is BoA and there is no AH I could give two shits what botters are doing. If your bots got banned tomorrow or run for the next 10 years I would not see an impact. So once again, what is this fantastic public service that you are trying to provide?
So, I told you that I had well over 5000 hours played on each account I did not provide you exact amount because im not stupid. I am sorry that you and everyone else thinks because of BOA that it wont effect you but I can still sell items/gold/and powerlevel in seasons and you wont be top of charts botters will.
I have to thank you so much for informing me what is truly important to me as a D3 player.
You really don't see what an average player sees in the ladder system, it is a way to see progression beyond T6 and allow others to see it as well. Personally I will not spend much time watching the world leaderboards, much more interested in my friends list and clan.
Do I really care if the top of the chart is some botter or a nolifer that plays 15+ hours a day? The top of the paragon charts are human players that stream everyday, I am not sure if the botting scripts could even keep up with them but who cares?
BoA means that people in my clan are finding there own gear and having fun doing it. That is all that matters and was not the case before BoA where you were much better off spending time playing the AH than the game.
That is why I say botters do nothing to affect me.
So again, what are you doing here? If you have a problem with the game, the fact that you are possibly running 200 bots and making money has nothing to do with it. You are just playing with your epeen.
...Well i am curious about how this problem that truly exist in D3, booting is not taken serious about many of you guys!Don't we have google search for proofs or youtube?It just don't mater if this guys its 100% acurate in wot he is teling us.What it mathers its that this problem its real.
Some of you discredit him on the mather ,realy?....Leme ask you wot its the moust important think the new patch will bring?The new ladder sistem on seasons?
So they will ad to the game a "real" competitive gamplay as wot they say.How you will compete with a person that bot?
Or maibe you dont care about the new sistem Blizz will ad!I dont personaly ,but many do care and will only drove them away when the competition its not fair...but wathever.
Personally I really don't care what the top players are doing. I am interested in what I can do, so yes I will look at what my clan mates are doing but I don't see this as a competition. I mean do you really look at the paragon and elemental/elite damage rankings on DiabloProgress with anything more than slight interest? Any player who gets to the absolute top will most likely do so by playing the game in a way that is more achievement based than fun based. I prefer D3 to have a little fun thrown into the grind.
I really don't get the reason for this thread. OP states that the game is ruined and that bots provide the player counts that make game look populated, then in the next breath states that he is still making money hand over fist. If OP is making that much money that means there are lots of players, so that makes the game healthy right? Also bots would never do anything to make the game look populated, they never play public.
5000 hours on 200 bots, that does not sound like a lot for a 24/7 operation.
$5 or $6 dollars for reasonably rare items does not make sense either. That is a lot of electricity and infrastructure for 5 or 6 dollars. How many hours on average does it take to get a Thunderfury or SoH. That made sense in the old AH when BiS gear sold for 50-100 and you could sell whatever you found.
How is a post like this ever going to make the game better? If the OP is being truthful he is delusional and if he is lying he is a douche.
I said well over 5000 hours I did not give you my exact play time because if I did you could easily locate my accounts. Also I said the game is dead by players I didn't say that there were none at all. Please get your points right, you act like it takes 100s of computers to run my bots. I do it all from 1 computer. That is not what the thread is about, the thread is to provide users information on how shady blizzard is. This is an attempt to get blizzard to wake up.
So, well over 5000 is that like 6000 or 10,000. I have 2800+ on a non-botted account, so forgive me for not thinking that 5000+ is that much for 24/7/200 operation like yours obviously is Just a hint when you are making up numbers, just run a few calculations to work out what is feasible. For you to be making the most of those 200 bots and making the big bucks you must be servicing a lot of players at 5 bucks a pop.
You have 200 bots running on one computer that is a mighty effort, well done.
Now back to the point of the post. You are trying to provide a public service by telling people on a 3rd party site about how shady Blizzard is for not putting enough effort into shutting down more botters and getting Blizzard to wake up? Right.
Now that gear is BoA and there is no AH I could give two shits what botters are doing. If your bots got banned tomorrow or run for the next 10 years I would not see an impact. So once again, what is this fantastic public service that you are trying to provide?
I really don't get the reason for this thread. OP states that the game is ruined and that bots provide the player counts that make game look populated, then in the next breath states that he is still making money hand over fist. If OP is making that much money that means there are lots of players, so that makes the game healthy right? Also bots would never do anything to make the game look populated, they never play public.
5000 hours on 200 bots, that does not sound like a lot for a 24/7 operation.
$5 or $6 dollars for reasonably rare items does not make sense either. That is a lot of electricity and infrastructure for 5 or 6 dollars. How many hours on average does it take to get a Thunderfury or SoH. That made sense in the old AH when BiS gear sold for 50-100 and you could sell whatever you found.
How is a post like this ever going to make the game better? If the OP is being truthful he is delusional and if he is lying he is a douche.
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Once you can do T5/T6 efficiently the benefit probably drops away.
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http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/15353846578
Having said that an ancient RoRG, or any jewelry is really not going to give you much of a boost.
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You really don't see what an average player sees in the ladder system, it is a way to see progression beyond T6 and allow others to see it as well. Personally I will not spend much time watching the world leaderboards, much more interested in my friends list and clan.
Do I really care if the top of the chart is some botter or a nolifer that plays 15+ hours a day? The top of the paragon charts are human players that stream everyday, I am not sure if the botting scripts could even keep up with them but who cares?
BoA means that people in my clan are finding there own gear and having fun doing it. That is all that matters and was not the case before BoA where you were much better off spending time playing the AH than the game.
That is why I say botters do nothing to affect me.
So again, what are you doing here? If you have a problem with the game, the fact that you are possibly running 200 bots and making money has nothing to do with it. You are just playing with your epeen.
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You have 200 bots running on one computer that is a mighty effort, well done.
Now back to the point of the post. You are trying to provide a public service by telling people on a 3rd party site about how shady Blizzard is for not putting enough effort into shutting down more botters and getting Blizzard to wake up? Right.
Now that gear is BoA and there is no AH I could give two shits what botters are doing. If your bots got banned tomorrow or run for the next 10 years I would not see an impact. So once again, what is this fantastic public service that you are trying to provide?
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5000 hours on 200 bots, that does not sound like a lot for a 24/7 operation.
$5 or $6 dollars for reasonably rare items does not make sense either. That is a lot of electricity and infrastructure for 5 or 6 dollars. How many hours on average does it take to get a Thunderfury or SoH. That made sense in the old AH when BiS gear sold for 50-100 and you could sell whatever you found.
How is a post like this ever going to make the game better? If the OP is being truthful he is delusional and if he is lying he is a douche.