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And I think you fail to understand that the characters in Diablo 3 are not ordinary humans. They are nephalem, a race more powerful than the angels and demons; and we don't know the limits of their power. So you can't argue what the barbarian in Diablo 3 can't do, because you have no basis for that argument.

So to be sure, you are ok with barbarians materializing hundred of pounds of matter above the ground? (Y/N)
Does the concept of classe archetypes ring any bells?
Am I actually arguing with actual people about this? This is surreal.

If you are arguing that the skill just doesn't feel "barbarian-ish" enough, then we can't really argue since that's an entirely subjective viewpoint. You could say the same thing for Ancient Spear since it's a ranged attack, or Call of the Ancients since a it's a summoning skill. IMO, the barbarian has a heavy, earthy feel to him, so it's not entirely out of the scope of his skillset. No, it doesn't make it any logical sense that the projectiles are materializing from nowhere. Half of the skills in this game, or more, don't make any logical sense.

We're not talking logical, b/c that's pointless. We're talking aesthetically, and I have to agree, Avalanche seems too much like a wizard spell. Spear and Weapon Throw, while "magical" still invoke a martial, melee weapon wielding aesthetic. It still "feels" barbaric. Summoning Ancients is borderline, but still, the Ancients do mostly melee damage, or throw martial weapons. Avalanche is different. It's pure elemental spellcasting. It's the perfect Druid spell (and yeah, Druids and Barbs are related, but there was that schism for a reason).

But again, even if you're talking purely aesthetics, then it's entirely subjective. It's one thing to say that you don't like something. It's another thing to express disbelief that some people don't agree with your completely subjective opinion, as brx did.

And I agree that Avalanche would be better as a druid spell than a barbarian. Too bad this game doesn't have a druid.

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So to be sure, you are ok with barbarians materializing hundred of pounds of matter above the ground? (Y/N)
Does the concept of classe archetypes ring any bells?
Am I actually arguing with actual people about this? This is surreal.

There was a barbarian who can summon demons and explode their corpses. He also used a druid spell (Arctic Blast). His name was Nihlatak. There were other barbarians (council of elders) who casted a druid spell to shield Harrogath. Does these still in your classe archetypes? Druids can materialize hundred of pounds of matter above the ground, it was the Armageddon spell in Diablo 2. If some barbarians are capable of casting druid spells, why a nephalem, a race much more powerful than an ordinary human, can't?

You say that barbarians can't use magic; but they can. They can infuse their weapons with magic (the Berserk skill). Some of them use druidic powers. At least one of them uses necromancy, who also uses a druidic ability. Maybe not all of them can, but we know some does. And we know all of these from Diablo 2. You know, the game that introduced the barbarian race into the lore. Before you call people "blind", you could have done some research before saying that barbarians were not supposed to be magic users.