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2. Rated T (E.G. Little bitches 10-14 coming in and being... little bitches.)
3. Too easy (If it has a more steep learning curve it will sweep out the retards.)
The best part about Diablo 2 (In my opinion, besides the actual gameplay) is that it is old enough so younger people who are looking for eye candy and not a quality game play WoW or some other game instead.
I agree with most of what you're saying, but I'm also talking about the teamwork and maturity bit. I couldn't image a group of "retards holding a mouse" successfully achieving some hard task or goal. I'm actually dreading the release of D3 because of the "eye candy" that will draw younger players in. I'm worried about this because I enjoy the atmosphere of Diablo 2 being a mature environment (Except when there's some damn nker), and I would hate to see that broken.
Right. I love how in D2 I can just join any game regardless of name/players/level and expect them to act fly. I mean, almost everyone I meet and play with are pretty cool people, and I've made a lot of friends from just joining games like that. I don't want to have to arrange games to play in a serious or just chill environment.
I think there are much more deep questions about D3's success then those that you posted.
Like make the gameplay the same style as the old D2, but innovating, have a really good storyline in game, make it clean of hacks and exploits...
Most of the current Diablo 2 players don't care about the storyline. I didn't list all of the ways Blizzard could mess up Diablo 3, just the ones that would affect the general mass of D2 players.
I'd rather play with a mature 14 year old person than someone who bitches about them, calling them little bitches, and believing that 'learning curve' in D2 kept away the 'retards'.
On another note, WoW is uglier than D2 if you ask me, and it does not attract people who are into eyecandy as you implied, but the other way around - quality gameplay. On the other hand, D2 attracts trolls who would play anything that's free, be it D2 or some Korean MMO. D2 wins for requiring less brains to play than any other online game. The teamwork and community you speak of never existed in D2. People just fought to steal each other's loot and that's pretty much it.
You are an example why I'd rather stick with games that have a monthly fee. You should be thanking the gods for the rest of your life that Blizzard is doing you this favor and letting you troll this game for completely no charge, once again, and instead you are here complaining about 'little bitches' and 'retards'. It's almost iroinc. And you know, the M rating on D2 never stopped younger players from playing the game. I am convinced that the ratio of children and mature people is much more in favor of the latter in WoW. And if nothing, at least you can always join a guild and play exclusively with quality players who are older than 20, whereas in D2, you get paired with pretty much any monster of society who feels no responsibility to the community and will ruin your gameplay experience for it is in his best interest.
I'd rather play with a mature 14 year old person than someone who bitches about them, calling them little bitches, and believing that 'learning curve' in D2 kept away the 'retards'.
On another note, WoW is uglier than D2 if you ask me, and it does not attract people who are into eyecandy as you implied, but the other way around - quality gameplay. On the other hand, D2 attracts trolls who would play anything that's free, be it D2 or some Korean MMO. D2 wins for requiring less brains to play than any other online game. The teamwork and community you speak of never existed in D2. People just fought to steal each other's loot and that's pretty much it.
You are an example why I'd rather stick with games that have a monthly fee. You should be thanking the gods for the rest of your life that Blizzard is doing you this favor and letting you troll this game for completely no charge, once again, and instead you are here complaining about 'little bitches' and 'retards'. It's almost iroinc. And you know, the M rating on D2 never stopped younger players from playing the game. I am convinced that the ratio of children and mature people is much more in favor of the latter, in WoW. And if nothing, at least you can always join a guild and play exclusively with quality players who are older than 20, whereas in D2, you get paired with pretty much any monster of society who feels no responsibility to the community and will ruin your gameplay experience for it is in his best interest.
LMFAO
1. I'm not complaining about them now, just dreading the incoming flow of them on D3, you illiterate.
2. Why are you growing a pussy and whining about Diablo on a DIABLO SITE? Go back to World of Warcraft because I can tell you can't even begin to comprehend the Diablo community.
3. You've obviously never played with anybody immature, as I can see. Either that or you are 14-
4. Stop trying to sound intelligent, you're just :spam:ming my thread.
5. Most of the Diablo 2 players, discluding myself, do not care about the story line. The furthest they reach into the game is powerleveling to 85 then getting some runewords and dueling.
I'm fascinated by how your attempted troll changed my innocent thread into an argument. If you want to pick a fight, go to 4chan you /b/loody idiot.
Nice over 9000 hours spent on Diablo by the way, too bad you learned nothing about the people who play.
LMFAO
1. I'm not complaining about them now, just dreading the incoming flow of them on D3, you illiterate.
2. Why are you growing a pussy and whining about Diablo on a DIABLO SITE? Go back to World of Warcraft because I can tell you can't even begin to comprehend the Diablo community.
3. You've obviously never played with anybody immature, as I can see. Either that or you are 14-
4. Stop trying to sound intelligent, you're just :spam:ming my thread.
5. Most of the Diablo 2 players, discluding myself, do not care about the story line. The furthest they reach into the game is powerleveling to 85 then getting some runewords and dueling.
I'm fascinated by how your attempted troll changed my innocent thread into an argument. If you want to pick a fight, go to 4chan you /b/loody idiot.
Nice over 9000 hours spent on Diablo by the way, too bad you learned nothing about the people who play.
Illiterate can't stand alone. Nice attempt, though.
Whining? It's a forum for all people to discuss and argue (like human beings) about the game they all mutually like. That's the point of the majority of forum. The other minority just deviate from the constant.
How can someone "sound intelligent" if he is indeed stupid? You're either stupid, or you're intelligent..you'd fail attempting to be which you are not, coming off as more stupid, but not "seeming intelligent" which is rather an impossible mission, in my opinion.
There is no thing called "my thread". You don't own this forum, thus your posts, threads, and everything, belong to the forum administrators. Now you know that.
You yourself just turned this into an argument.
Where did you get the stupid assumption that most Diablo fans don't care about the story? 95% of this entire forum does. Quite the accurate statistic you gave there, man.
Stop picking up fights, try to stick to the thread content..it's rather more fun that way; you should try it.
Most of the current Diablo 2 players don't care about the storyline. I didn't list all of the ways Blizzard could mess up Diablo 3, just the ones that would affect the general mass of D2 players.
But (thanks God) they are not trying to please the ''general mass of diablo 2 players''.
First because blizz is much more greedy now and they will not make a game focusing a less then one million players puclic.
Second because they don't have to please D2 fans to make then buy D3. Most of the real diablo fans will buy and play D3 no matter how crappy the game is. So they will invest to catch a different public.
Third because the game lore was one of the main features thet they used to creat the D3's actual hype. So I really hope they don't make a ''false hype'' like Age of Conan's combo system.
Forth because blizz are surelly a succes of public, but are not so glorified by the proffessional opnion. Among their games, only D1 and SC are considered brillhant, and thats a kind of shame for then. D3 are they chance for then to change it. Factors like story, music and innovation are very important to game's critics (many times to important in my opnion...).
And for those who think ''Fuck you who cares about of the critics think?'' I say they care (or at least should care). It's crazy how gamespot's note can change the sells of a game.
Illiterate can't stand alone. Nice attempt, though.
Whining? It's a forum for all people to discuss and argue (like human beings) about the game they all mutually like. That's the point of the majority of forum. The other minority just deviate from the constant.
How can someone "sound intelligent" if he is indeed stupid? You're either stupid, or you're intelligent..you'd fail attempting to be which you are not, coming off as more stupid, but not "seeming intelligent" which is rather an impossible mission, in my opinion.
There is no thing called "my thread". You don't own this forum, thus your posts, threads, and everything, belong to the forum administrators. Now you know that.
You yourself just turned this into an argument.
Where did you get the stupid assumption that most Diablo fans don't care about the story? 95% of this entire forum does. Quite the accurate statistic you gave there, man.
Stop picking up fights, try to stick to the thread content..it's rather more fun that way; you should try it.
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Although it is nice to admit who you are, I'd have to point out to you that you're not funny, you're not cool, and you are the typical bum I see walking outside of the dollar store.
And for you, Mephisto
I called him illiterate because he obviously did not read or understand what I wrote. If you take the 5 minutes out of your busy life I'm sure you'd see it.
Ah haha... that's really something. I also never said he "sounded intelligent" if you look back 2 damn words you can see IN BOLD PRINT the word "trying". Seems like you're the illiterate, eh? TRYING TO SOUND INTELLIGENT - It's called a sentence you retard.
A statistic is a percentage. I'm talking about the mass of Diablo 2 players who only play the game to level and duel. I myself actually enjoy the story, following it from Diablo 1. How did you come up with 95 percent, did you go around and ask everyone? From what I've seen in my limited time on this site is that the people here also enjoy the story. I'm not trying to be an asshole. Care to try again?
I'm not even going to talk about italofoca's latest post. It was so badly done and off topic that I didn't even read past the first sentence.
I'm not even going to talk about italofoca's latest post. It was so badly done and off topic that I didn't even read past the first sentence.
...?
I just said why the things that can screw over D3 was the things i listed, not the totally senseless things you listed (wich seens just a list of things that annoyed you in D2).
I agree with most of what you're saying, but I'm also talking about the teamwork and maturity bit. I couldn't image a group of "retards holding a mouse" successfully achieving some hard task or goal. I'm actually dreading the release of D3 because of the "eye candy" that will draw younger players in. I'm worried about this because I enjoy the atmosphere of Diablo 2 being a mature environment (Except when there's some damn nker), and I would hate to see that broken.
I disagree, people that play wow and wc3 for that matter are much nicer than in diablo. There are so many ass holes in that game its not even funny. Ya there are kiddies that play wow but so what? A few kids isnt going to ruin it all, especially with the already acquired fan base.
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-Equinox
"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
-Winged
I just said why the things that can screw over D3 was the things i listed, not the totally senseless things you listed (wich seens just a list of things that annoyed you in D2).
Ok, I'm pretty sure you should start speaking English. Your awful grammar is an insult to every American out there. This is my opinion, you don't have to agree or disagree with it, I'm just telling you what I think. So fuck off.
Although it is nice to admit who you are, I'd have to point out to you that you're not funny, you're not cool, and you are the typical bum I see walking outside of the dollar store.
And for you, Mephisto
I called him illiterate because he obviously did not read or understand what I wrote. If you take the 5 minutes out of your busy life I'm sure you'd see it.
Ah haha... that's really something. I also never said he "sounded intelligent" if you look back 2 damn words you can see IN BOLD PRINT the word "trying". Seems like you're the illiterate, eh? TRYING TO SOUND INTELLIGENT - It's called a sentence you retard.
A statistic is a percentage. I'm talking about the mass of Diablo 2 players who only play the game to level and duel. I myself actually enjoy the story, following it from Diablo 1. How did you come up with 95 percent, did you go around and ask everyone? From what I've seen in my limited time on this site is that the people here also enjoy the story. I'm not trying to be an asshole. Care to try again?
I'm not even going to talk about italofoca's latest post. It was so badly done and off topic that I didn't even read past the first sentence.
You should really get some anger management classes man, it isn't healthy to get so mad over an internet forum, it really isn't.
You can't try, you either are or you aren't.
95% is a rough percentage meaning almost everybody. You just said in a the posts before this one that you couldn't care less about the storyline (and that most people don't either)..contradiction much?
Try? I'm not trying anything, this is all just too ridiculous to begin with. Here you are talking about 14 year olds, while acting like a 9 year old.
In a good fanbase, the veterans educate the "kiddies", and the "kiddies" turn into good, sophisticated players, not just players, humans. But in our fansbase, the veterans show off, PK, make fun of, and otherwise try to impress upon the "kiddies" with their supreme veteranship. So you really get what you deserve from the "kiddies".
Sure, they can be annoying sometimes. But they are kids, after all. And as in any environement, you should understand that.
The 18-year olds plus that run around saying how they want all the "kiddies" out piss me off more than some immature "kiddies".
Ok, I'm pretty sure you should start speaking English. Your awful grammar is an insult to every American out there. This is my opinion, you don't have to agree or disagree with it, I'm just telling you what I think. So fuck off.
Actually, he's not speaking, he's typing. You complain about his grammar but write things like LMFAO... I think that's a bit more insulting than some spelling and grammar mistakes (not to mention the phrases like fuck off or words like retard which are actual insults)... I'm an "American", from Uruguay, and don't find it insulting. And if you meant native English speakers, you should have included the English (English comes from them, you know).
Opinions, if not backed up with arguments, are worthless in a discussion. So if they are insulting and don't really add anything, for everyone's sake, keep them to yourself.
Oh, and fuck off.
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2. Rated T (E.G. Little bitches 10-14 coming in and being... little bitches.)
3. Too easy (If it has a more steep learning curve it will sweep out the retards.)
The best part about Diablo 2 (In my opinion, besides the actual gameplay) is that it is old enough so younger people who are looking for eye candy and not a quality game play WoW or some other game instead.
Like make the gameplay the same style as the old D2, but innovating, have a really good storyline in game, make it clean of hacks and exploits...
If anything it's the other way around.
There are people that enjoy playing the single-player campaign, you know.
On another note, WoW is uglier than D2 if you ask me, and it does not attract people who are into eyecandy as you implied, but the other way around - quality gameplay. On the other hand, D2 attracts trolls who would play anything that's free, be it D2 or some Korean MMO. D2 wins for requiring less brains to play than any other online game. The teamwork and community you speak of never existed in D2. People just fought to steal each other's loot and that's pretty much it.
You are an example why I'd rather stick with games that have a monthly fee. You should be thanking the gods for the rest of your life that Blizzard is doing you this favor and letting you troll this game for completely no charge, once again, and instead you are here complaining about 'little bitches' and 'retards'. It's almost iroinc. And you know, the M rating on D2 never stopped younger players from playing the game. I am convinced that the ratio of children and mature people is much more in favor of the latter in WoW. And if nothing, at least you can always join a guild and play exclusively with quality players who are older than 20, whereas in D2, you get paired with pretty much any monster of society who feels no responsibility to the community and will ruin your gameplay experience for it is in his best interest.
LMFAO
1. I'm not complaining about them now, just dreading the incoming flow of them on D3, you illiterate.
2. Why are you growing a pussy and whining about Diablo on a DIABLO SITE? Go back to World of Warcraft because I can tell you can't even begin to comprehend the Diablo community.
3. You've obviously never played with anybody immature, as I can see. Either that or you are 14-
4. Stop trying to sound intelligent, you're just :spam:ming my thread.
5. Most of the Diablo 2 players, discluding myself, do not care about the story line. The furthest they reach into the game is powerleveling to 85 then getting some runewords and dueling.
I'm fascinated by how your attempted troll changed my innocent thread into an argument. If you want to pick a fight, go to 4chan you /b/loody idiot.
Nice over 9000 hours spent on Diablo by the way, too bad you learned nothing about the people who play.
Amazing substance can be found in your posts, no doubt. I just fail to see how can someone be actually more immature than you are.
Illiterate can't stand alone. Nice attempt, though.
Whining? It's a forum for all people to discuss and argue (like human beings) about the game they all mutually like. That's the point of the majority of forum. The other minority just deviate from the constant.
How can someone "sound intelligent" if he is indeed stupid? You're either stupid, or you're intelligent..you'd fail attempting to be which you are not, coming off as more stupid, but not "seeming intelligent" which is rather an impossible mission, in my opinion.
There is no thing called "my thread". You don't own this forum, thus your posts, threads, and everything, belong to the forum administrators. Now you know that.
You yourself just turned this into an argument.
Where did you get the stupid assumption that most Diablo fans don't care about the story? 95% of this entire forum does. Quite the accurate statistic you gave there, man.
Stop picking up fights, try to stick to the thread content..it's rather more fun that way; you should try it.
Rise and rise again, until lambs become lions
But (thanks God) they are not trying to please the ''general mass of diablo 2 players''.
First because blizz is much more greedy now and they will not make a game focusing a less then one million players puclic.
Second because they don't have to please D2 fans to make then buy D3. Most of the real diablo fans will buy and play D3 no matter how crappy the game is. So they will invest to catch a different public.
Third because the game lore was one of the main features thet they used to creat the D3's actual hype. So I really hope they don't make a ''false hype'' like Age of Conan's combo system.
Forth because blizz are surelly a succes of public, but are not so glorified by the proffessional opnion. Among their games, only D1 and SC are considered brillhant, and thats a kind of shame for then. D3 are they chance for then to change it. Factors like story, music and innovation are very important to game's critics (many times to important in my opnion...).
And for those who think ''Fuck you who cares about of the critics think?'' I say they care (or at least should care). It's crazy how gamespot's note can change the sells of a game.
I first played DII when I was 12. I am sure I was annoying, but who really gives a damn.
Although it is nice to admit who you are, I'd have to point out to you that you're not funny, you're not cool, and you are the typical bum I see walking outside of the dollar store.
And for you, Mephisto
I called him illiterate because he obviously did not read or understand what I wrote. If you take the 5 minutes out of your busy life I'm sure you'd see it.
Ah haha... that's really something. I also never said he "sounded intelligent" if you look back 2 damn words you can see IN BOLD PRINT the word "trying". Seems like you're the illiterate, eh? TRYING TO SOUND INTELLIGENT - It's called a sentence you retard.
A statistic is a percentage. I'm talking about the mass of Diablo 2 players who only play the game to level and duel. I myself actually enjoy the story, following it from Diablo 1. How did you come up with 95 percent, did you go around and ask everyone? From what I've seen in my limited time on this site is that the people here also enjoy the story. I'm not trying to be an asshole. Care to try again?
I'm not even going to talk about italofoca's latest post. It was so badly done and off topic that I didn't even read past the first sentence.
...?
I just said why the things that can screw over D3 was the things i listed, not the totally senseless things you listed (wich seens just a list of things that annoyed you in D2).
I disagree, people that play wow and wc3 for that matter are much nicer than in diablo. There are so many ass holes in that game its not even funny. Ya there are kiddies that play wow but so what? A few kids isnt going to ruin it all, especially with the already acquired fan base.
-Equinox
"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
-Winged
Ok, I'm pretty sure you should start speaking English. Your awful grammar is an insult to every American out there. This is my opinion, you don't have to agree or disagree with it, I'm just telling you what I think. So fuck off.
You should really get some anger management classes man, it isn't healthy to get so mad over an internet forum, it really isn't.
You can't try, you either are or you aren't.
95% is a rough percentage meaning almost everybody. You just said in a the posts before this one that you couldn't care less about the storyline (and that most people don't either)..contradiction much?
Try? I'm not trying anything, this is all just too ridiculous to begin with. Here you are talking about 14 year olds, while acting like a 9 year old.
Rise and rise again, until lambs become lions
Sure, they can be annoying sometimes. But they are kids, after all. And as in any environement, you should understand that.
The 18-year olds plus that run around saying how they want all the "kiddies" out piss me off more than some immature "kiddies".
Actually, he's not speaking, he's typing. You complain about his grammar but write things like LMFAO... I think that's a bit more insulting than some spelling and grammar mistakes (not to mention the phrases like fuck off or words like retard which are actual insults)... I'm an "American", from Uruguay, and don't find it insulting. And if you meant native English speakers, you should have included the English (English comes from them, you know).
Opinions, if not backed up with arguments, are worthless in a discussion. So if they are insulting and don't really add anything, for everyone's sake, keep them to yourself.
Oh, and fuck off.