Hmm. So I FORGOT to include two words which is "incredibly misleading." You incorrectly calculate the wd/s/m for Splinters because you failed to read ONE number correctly in the patch notes. Then you acknowledge my sarcastic and annoyed tones, which were caused by your presumptuous reply to me FORGETTING to include two words.
It's incredibly misleading because %WD/s/mana is a useless metric. The only useful ones for WD are %WD/s and %WD/mana. It's also incredibly misleading as those 2 words completely flip the outcome to show that unruned is worse.
edit: you've been pretty blackly ironic too my friend, ms. kettle
You don't know the definition of irony. Which I guess isn't bad, since most people don't. You didn't seem to know the definition of efficiency either considering your post was all about what to do at low mana and the like, so I guess it's not worth continuing.
Its also incredibly misleading when you enter a thread making assumptions and correcting people, then you make a pretty simple and stupid error yourself. You've done a good job of showing us the meaning of "hypocrisy" as well.
Actually, the fact you questioned my intentions as ironic is in itself ironic. If you need to explain this for you, thats fine. And back to efficiency are we? Well like I said, unless I specifically stated that was my intention with my calculations (which I didn't), its safe to assume that wasn't the purpose. Apparently this is a hard concept for you to understand, but its pretty fundamental in nature. Let me ask you something which might shed a little more light into your questionable reasoning:
If you're out on a first date with a guy at a restaurant and the check comes, do you assume hes paying?
See what happens when I try to voice my OPINION on a skill and for some reason bring math into play. I forget two words and everything goes to hell XD Anyways, back on topic, the reasons I like Haunt are:
I r smart.
I gradiated from the 6th grade, and it only took 3 years.
Derp
Yes very compelling arguments.
You don't understand the difference between backing up an argument (with proof) and stating an opinion? I guess that makes sense that you wouldn't.
"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"
Haha so you admit you don't even know how to properly divide 2 numbers. I guess this is no surprise, because you don't know how to properly multiple numbers either. Adding % wpn dmg to +% overall dmg, ROFL!
You sir are either a terrible troll or a complete dunce.
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"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"
Haha so you admit you don't even know how to properly divide 2 numbers. I guess this is no surprise, because you don't know how to properly multiple numbers either. Adding % wpn dmg to +% overall dmg, ROFL!
You sir are either a terrible troll or a complete idiot.
Wait...did you just say %WD/s/mana is TWO numbers?
Its also incredibly misleading when you enter a thread making assumptions and correcting people,
Actually that's the exact opposite of misleading, by definition.
You've done a good job of showing us the meaning of "hypocrisy" as well.
You're going to have to explain this one. A simple calculation error that still proved the point that haunt is bad, even if by a lesser margin, is different than figures that are wrong and infact pointless. Even if it were the same thing, that's still not hypocrisy.
Actually, the fact you questioned my intentions as ironic is in itself ironic.
No it isn't, but go on.
And back to efficiency are we? Well like I said, unless I specifically stated that was my intention with my calculations (which I didn't), its safe to assume that wasn't the purpose.
if the calculations of damage per mana aren't for efficiency, then they are literally pointless. Calculations for damage would include either %WD/mana or %WD/cast, which would lead to a priority queue. So if the purpose of calculating everything with respect to mana isn't efficiency, what could it possible be?
Apparently this is a hard concept for you to understand, but its pretty fundamental in nature. Let me ask you something which might shed a little more light into your questionable reasoning:
If you're out on a first date with a guy at a restaurant and the check comes, do you assume hes paying?
Yes, given that it is the first date and social norms dictate that he should pay, it's safe to assume that.
Just like it's safe to assume that when you're talking about damage with respect to mana and how you can do damage at low mana and without running out of mana, you're talking about efficiency even if you don't know it.
I could be wrong in either case (Cheap guy or guy posting random math to sound smart) but it's not wrong of me to assume that people aren't bad or dumb in general.
Just report him for trolling. Even if it turns out he is just stupid, meh no loss.
An arrogant idiot is far worse than a troll.
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"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"
Ok, I haven't seen this before (I'm sure none of the mods have, most of us not being online), but I'm sure if any of us had, this would've been over for a while now.
My sincere apologies to the forum users, I'll close this now. If you wish to continue discussing this subject, feel free to create a new thread with the useful information that came out of this one.
Now let me say a couple things, I'm not supposed to call out people in public but this 4-page mess begs for an exception, so I'll take my chances and give a couple suggestions on how to improve and see if it helps your (plural) attitude in the future.
I guess I was the naive one to think that the "community" over here was more mature than the official forums.
I guess you have, after all, proven me wrong about something.
A suggestion: don't judge a whole community from your idea of what one person is. You could be wrong about that person, and I can say you're definitely wrong about most of our forum users, so saying things like that doesn't help you prove your point. Flaming other people with sarcastic comments when they're just joining the discussion, just because they might be saying you're wrong, doesn't help either.
And Antirepublican, you drew first blood in this mess, you're the one who was sarcastic first, and who thinks using "fucking sucks" and saying "everyone knows this, except you" is the way to convince someone of your arguments, when it clearly just creates a very unpleasant atmosphere, and generally incites flaming (which is precisely what happened here).
For the record, in the future, if anyone feels a given user's posts or behavior or a thread is violating forum rules, by creating an unhealthy environment for discussion (which is what a forum is supposed to be), just report it (we'll deal with it) and let it go/back off, specially when you notice things are going downhill. Flame wars are one of the most annoying things for other users to experience when visiting.
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Its also incredibly misleading when you enter a thread making assumptions and correcting people, then you make a pretty simple and stupid error yourself. You've done a good job of showing us the meaning of "hypocrisy" as well.
Actually, the fact you questioned my intentions as ironic is in itself ironic. If you need to explain this for you, thats fine. And back to efficiency are we? Well like I said, unless I specifically stated that was my intention with my calculations (which I didn't), its safe to assume that wasn't the purpose. Apparently this is a hard concept for you to understand, but its pretty fundamental in nature. Let me ask you something which might shed a little more light into your questionable reasoning:
If you're out on a first date with a guy at a restaurant and the check comes, do you assume hes paying?
You don't understand the difference between backing up an argument (with proof) and stating an opinion? I guess that makes sense that you wouldn't.
still waiting....
Epicurus
If you can be lazy (which you have), so can I. You haven't answered ONE question I've asked you. Deflection at its finest.
You sir are either a terrible troll or a complete dunce.
Epicurus
Wait...did you just say %WD/s/mana is TWO numbers?
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please provide the %weapon damage / second / mana of Grasp of the Dead.
If you can do that, I might be willing to answer some of your questions.
edit: ok, I'm going to bed, this might take a while....good night and good luck!
No it isn't, but go on.
if the calculations of damage per mana aren't for efficiency, then they are literally pointless. Calculations for damage would include either %WD/mana or %WD/cast, which would lead to a priority queue. So if the purpose of calculating everything with respect to mana isn't efficiency, what could it possible be?
Yes, given that it is the first date and social norms dictate that he should pay, it's safe to assume that.
Just like it's safe to assume that when you're talking about damage with respect to mana and how you can do damage at low mana and without running out of mana, you're talking about efficiency even if you don't know it.
I could be wrong in either case (Cheap guy or guy posting random math to sound smart) but it's not wrong of me to assume that people aren't bad or dumb in general.
An arrogant idiot is far worse than a troll.
Epicurus
My sincere apologies to the forum users, I'll close this now. If you wish to continue discussing this subject, feel free to create a new thread with the useful information that came out of this one.
Now let me say a couple things, I'm not supposed to call out people in public but this 4-page mess begs for an exception, so I'll take my chances and give a couple suggestions on how to improve and see if it helps your (plural) attitude in the future.
A suggestion: don't judge a whole community from your idea of what one person is. You could be wrong about that person, and I can say you're definitely wrong about most of our forum users, so saying things like that doesn't help you prove your point. Flaming other people with sarcastic comments when they're just joining the discussion, just because they might be saying you're wrong, doesn't help either.
And Antirepublican, you drew first blood in this mess, you're the one who was sarcastic first, and who thinks using "fucking sucks" and saying "everyone knows this, except you" is the way to convince someone of your arguments, when it clearly just creates a very unpleasant atmosphere, and generally incites flaming (which is precisely what happened here).
For the record, in the future, if anyone feels a given user's posts or behavior or a thread is violating forum rules, by creating an unhealthy environment for discussion (which is what a forum is supposed to be), just report it (we'll deal with it) and let it go/back off, specially when you notice things are going downhill. Flame wars are one of the most annoying things for other users to experience when visiting.